From lboyce at usao.edu Wed Mar 23 10:40:10 2011 From: lboyce at usao.edu (Lynn Boyce) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:40:10 -0500 Subject: [COPLAC-IR] Request from Bill Spellman... Message-ID: <017701cbe970$9c5d4bc0$d517e340$@edu> Dear COPLAC Colleagues: One of our member institutions is studying rates of graduation by major and I have been asked if any other COPLAC campuses collect this data. If your campus gathers this information and you would be willing to share, I would be very grateful. The more recent the data the better in terms of this study. Thank you for your consideration. Sincerely, Bill Bill Spellman Director Council of Public Liberal Arts Colleges One University Heights Asheville, NC 28804 (828) 350-4590 www.coplac.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.onenet.net/pipermail/coplac-ir/attachments/20110323/8dbd83d8/attachment.html From JMiller at uwsuper.edu Wed Mar 23 18:16:27 2011 From: JMiller at uwsuper.edu (Miller,James L) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:16:27 -0500 Subject: [COPLAC-IR] Request from Bill Spellman... In-Reply-To: <017701cbe970$9c5d4bc0$d517e340$@edu> References: <017701cbe970$9c5d4bc0$d517e340$@edu> Message-ID: <141D55ECF826FE4191E0E1832C7AD82A1AAF776B3C@EXCH2.uws.uwsuper.edu> Bill, We do not, because our "n" counts are small and because at our university, students declare their major at different times, so it's difficult to establish a legitimate freshmen cohort by major. We are trying to determine what metrics should be used to examine departmental success, but we have not yet solved this one. Jim Jim Miller University of Wisconsin-Superior P.O. Box 2000, Belknap & Catlin Streets Superior, WI 54880 715/394-8396 President National Association for College Admission Counseling From: lboyce at usao.edu [mailto:lboyce at usao.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 10:40 AM To: coplac-ir at lists.onenet.net; 'Anita Fraley'; 'Archer Gravely'; 'Babs Varano'; 'Beth Carter'; 'Bill Spellman'; 'Brian Lashley'; 'Cassandra Slaybaugh'; 'Cristi Carson'; 'Doug Rawlings'; 'Elizabeth Acker'; 'Elizabeth Clune'; 'Fort Lewis Institutional Research'; 'Ginger Otwell'; 'Hui-Min Wen'; 'Jason Canales'; Miller,James L; 'Julie Rao'; 'Laura Coghlan'; Laura Dorman; 'Martha Davis'; 'Mascetti, Kris'; 'Mathew Wilkerson'; 'Matt Stillman'; Nancy Asher; 'Nancy Helsper'; 'Orien McGlamery'; 'Pat Parson'; 'Sarah Maene'; 'Scott Bevins'; 'Tim Hanson'; 'Wrenette Tedder' Subject: Request from Bill Spellman... Dear COPLAC Colleagues: One of our member institutions is studying rates of graduation by major and I have been asked if any other COPLAC campuses collect this data. If your campus gathers this information and you would be willing to share, I would be very grateful. The more recent the data the better in terms of this study. Thank you for your consideration. Sincerely, Bill Bill Spellman Director Council of Public Liberal Arts Colleges One University Heights Asheville, NC 28804 (828) 350-4590 www.coplac.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.onenet.net/pipermail/coplac-ir/attachments/20110323/00d172c5/attachment-0001.html From mwilkers at umw.edu Wed Mar 23 19:57:44 2011 From: mwilkers at umw.edu (Mathew Wilkerson (mwilkers)) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 20:57:44 -0400 Subject: [COPLAC-IR] Request from Bill Spellman... In-Reply-To: <141D55ECF826FE4191E0E1832C7AD82A1AAF776B3C@EXCH2.uws.uwsuper.edu> References: <017701cbe970$9c5d4bc0$d517e340$@edu> <141D55ECF826FE4191E0E1832C7AD82A1AAF776B3C@EXCH2.uws.uwsuper.edu> Message-ID: <05ED2B9EEF6ECC4CBEA7A0EFE809000109D4444A63@MSEXCH-DB.umw.local> Bill, We are in the same boat. We do not collect this information either. None of our students begin in a major as first-time college students and our students can declare at different times. Therefore, we are not able to establish cohorts and standards for tracking graduation rates by major. Mathew Wilkerson Director of Institutional Research Office of Institutional Analysis and Effectiveness University of Mary Washington Office: (540) 654-1281 FAX: (540) 654-1358 http://www.umw.edu/iae/ mwilkers at umw.edu From: Miller,James L [mailto:JMiller at uwsuper.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:16 PM To: lboyce at usao.edu; coplac-ir at lists.onenet.net; 'Anita Fraley'; 'Archer Gravely'; 'Babs Varano'; 'Beth Carter'; 'Bill Spellman'; 'Brian Lashley'; 'Cassandra Slaybaugh'; 'Cristi Carson'; 'Doug Rawlings'; 'Elizabeth Acker'; 'Elizabeth Clune'; 'Fort Lewis Institutional Research'; 'Ginger Otwell'; 'Hui-Min Wen'; 'Jason Canales'; 'Julie Rao'; 'Laura Coghlan'; Laura Dorman; 'Martha Davis'; 'Mascetti, Kris'; Mathew Wilkerson (mwilkers); 'Matt Stillman'; Nancy Asher; 'Nancy Helsper'; 'Orien McGlamery'; 'Pat Parson'; 'Sarah Maene'; 'Scott Bevins'; 'Tim Hanson'; 'Wrenette Tedder' Subject: RE: Request from Bill Spellman... Bill, We do not, because our "n" counts are small and because at our university, students declare their major at different times, so it's difficult to establish a legitimate freshmen cohort by major. We are trying to determine what metrics should be used to examine departmental success, but we have not yet solved this one. Jim Jim Miller University of Wisconsin-Superior P.O. Box 2000, Belknap & Catlin Streets Superior, WI 54880 715/394-8396 President National Association for College Admission Counseling From: lboyce at usao.edu [mailto:lboyce at usao.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 10:40 AM To: coplac-ir at lists.onenet.net; 'Anita Fraley'; 'Archer Gravely'; 'Babs Varano'; 'Beth Carter'; 'Bill Spellman'; 'Brian Lashley'; 'Cassandra Slaybaugh'; 'Cristi Carson'; 'Doug Rawlings'; 'Elizabeth Acker'; 'Elizabeth Clune'; 'Fort Lewis Institutional Research'; 'Ginger Otwell'; 'Hui-Min Wen'; 'Jason Canales'; Miller,James L; 'Julie Rao'; 'Laura Coghlan'; Laura Dorman; 'Martha Davis'; 'Mascetti, Kris'; 'Mathew Wilkerson'; 'Matt Stillman'; Nancy Asher; 'Nancy Helsper'; 'Orien McGlamery'; 'Pat Parson'; 'Sarah Maene'; 'Scott Bevins'; 'Tim Hanson'; 'Wrenette Tedder' Subject: Request from Bill Spellman... Dear COPLAC Colleagues: One of our member institutions is studying rates of graduation by major and I have been asked if any other COPLAC campuses collect this data. If your campus gathers this information and you would be willing to share, I would be very grateful. The more recent the data the better in terms of this study. Thank you for your consideration. Sincerely, Bill Bill Spellman Director Council of Public Liberal Arts Colleges One University Heights Asheville, NC 28804 (828) 350-4590 www.coplac.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.onenet.net/pipermail/coplac-ir/attachments/20110323/2b504fc8/attachment-0001.html From blanni at ramapo.edu Thu Mar 24 08:14:23 2011 From: blanni at ramapo.edu (Babs Varano) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 09:14:23 -0400 Subject: [COPLAC-IR] Request from Bill Spellman... In-Reply-To: <0BFD395B116D224A92CE21E4A7050EE9B6370A@washington.keene.edu> References: <017701cbe970$9c5d4bc0$d517e340$@edu> <141D55ECF826FE4191E0E1832C7AD82A1AAF776B3C@EXCH2.uws.uwsuper.edu> <0BFD395B116D224A92CE21E4A7050EE9B6370A@washington.keene.edu> Message-ID: <004a01cbea25$698ba4c0$3ca2ee40$@edu> I calculate time to graduate by major based on degrees awarded. Students change major so many times or declare their major late. Babs Babette Varano Assistant Vice President Institutional Effectiveness, Research and Planning blanni at ramapo.edu office phone 201-684-7028 cell phone 201-600-2659 From: Carson, Cristi [mailto:ccarson at keene.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:15 AM To: Miller,James L; lboyce at usao.edu; coplac-ir at lists.onenet.net; Anita Fraley; Archer Gravely; Babs Varano; Beth Carter; Bill Spellman; Brian Lashley; Cassandra Slaybaugh; Doug Rawlings; Elizabeth Acker; Elizabeth Clune; Fort Lewis Institutional Research; Ginger Otwell; Hui-Min Wen; Jason Canales; Julie Rao; Laura Coghlan; Laura Dorman; Martha Davis; Mascetti, Kris; Mathew Wilkerson; Matt Stillman; Nancy Asher; Nancy Helsper; Orien McGlamery; Pat Parson; Sarah Maene; Scott Bevins; Tim Hanson; Wrenette Tedder Subject: RE: Request from Bill Spellman... I have just completed a time to graduation study by major. My approach was to begin with the fall2004 first time first year freshman cohort, and track them. Is this of interest? Cristi Cristi Carson, Ph.D. Director, Institutional Research Keene State College Keene, New Hampshire 603-358-2117 From: Miller,James L [mailto:JMiller at uwsuper.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:16 PM To: lboyce at usao.edu; coplac-ir at lists.onenet.net; 'Anita Fraley'; 'Archer Gravely'; 'Babs Varano'; 'Beth Carter'; 'Bill Spellman'; 'Brian Lashley'; 'Cassandra Slaybaugh'; Carson, Cristi; 'Doug Rawlings'; 'Elizabeth Acker'; 'Elizabeth Clune'; 'Fort Lewis Institutional Research'; 'Ginger Otwell'; 'Hui-Min Wen'; 'Jason Canales'; 'Julie Rao'; 'Laura Coghlan'; Laura Dorman; 'Martha Davis'; 'Mascetti, Kris'; 'Mathew Wilkerson'; 'Matt Stillman'; Nancy Asher; 'Nancy Helsper'; 'Orien McGlamery'; 'Pat Parson'; 'Sarah Maene'; 'Scott Bevins'; 'Tim Hanson'; 'Wrenette Tedder' Subject: RE: Request from Bill Spellman... Bill, We do not, because our "n" counts are small and because at our university, students declare their major at different times, so it's difficult to establish a legitimate freshmen cohort by major. We are trying to determine what metrics should be used to examine departmental success, but we have not yet solved this one. Jim Jim Miller University of Wisconsin-Superior P.O. Box 2000, Belknap & Catlin Streets Superior, WI 54880 715/394-8396 President National Association for College Admission Counseling From: lboyce at usao.edu [mailto:lboyce at usao.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 10:40 AM To: coplac-ir at lists.onenet.net; 'Anita Fraley'; 'Archer Gravely'; 'Babs Varano'; 'Beth Carter'; 'Bill Spellman'; 'Brian Lashley'; 'Cassandra Slaybaugh'; 'Cristi Carson'; 'Doug Rawlings'; 'Elizabeth Acker'; 'Elizabeth Clune'; 'Fort Lewis Institutional Research'; 'Ginger Otwell'; 'Hui-Min Wen'; 'Jason Canales'; Miller,James L; 'Julie Rao'; 'Laura Coghlan'; Laura Dorman; 'Martha Davis'; 'Mascetti, Kris'; 'Mathew Wilkerson'; 'Matt Stillman'; Nancy Asher; 'Nancy Helsper'; 'Orien McGlamery'; 'Pat Parson'; 'Sarah Maene'; 'Scott Bevins'; 'Tim Hanson'; 'Wrenette Tedder' Subject: Request from Bill Spellman... Dear COPLAC Colleagues: One of our member institutions is studying rates of graduation by major and I have been asked if any other COPLAC campuses collect this data. If your campus gathers this information and you would be willing to share, I would be very grateful. The more recent the data the better in terms of this study. Thank you for your consideration. Sincerely, Bill Bill Spellman Director Council of Public Liberal Arts Colleges One University Heights Asheville, NC 28804 (828) 350-4590 www.coplac.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.onenet.net/pipermail/coplac-ir/attachments/20110324/65dd77b1/attachment-0001.html From rao at geneseo.edu Thu Mar 24 08:33:53 2011 From: rao at geneseo.edu (Julie Rao) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 09:33:53 -0400 Subject: [COPLAC-IR] Request from Bill Spellman... In-Reply-To: <0BFD395B116D224A92CE21E4A7050EE9B6370C@washington.keene.edu> References: <017701cbe970$9c5d4bc0$d517e340$@edu> <141D55ECF826FE4191E0E1832C7AD82A1AAF776B3C@EXCH2.uws.uwsuper.edu> <0BFD395B116D224A92CE21E4A7050EE9B6370A@washington.keene.edu> <004a01cbea25$698ba4c0$3ca2ee40$@edu> <0BFD395B116D224A92CE21E4A7050EE9B6370C@washington.keene.edu> Message-ID: <4D8B4841.6050705@geneseo.edu> Good morning, On page 69-76 of our Fact Book, https://www.geneseo.edu/webfm_send/2666, I show the graduation rates by program for the 2000, 2001, 2002, and 2003 entering cohorts. About 1/3 of our incoming students come in undeclared, so looking at graduation rates by program makes sense for us, even if they don't graduate in the same major they started. Julie Julie Meyer Rao, Ph.D. Director of Institutional Research SUNY College at Geneseo Erwin 222 rao at geneseo.edu 585.245.5553 - phone 585.245.5096 - fax - Note the change to the fax number Check out the Fact Book, Just the Facts! and the Common Data Set at http://go.geneseo.edu/IR On 3/24/2011 9:23 AM, Carson, Cristi wrote: > > That is what I did, also. > > Cristi > > *From:*Babs Varano [mailto:blanni at ramapo.edu] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2011 9:14 AM > *To:* Carson, Cristi; 'Miller,James L'; lboyce at usao.edu; > coplac-ir at lists.onenet.net; 'Anita Fraley'; 'Archer Gravely'; 'Beth > Carter'; 'Bill Spellman'; 'Brian Lashley'; 'Cassandra Slaybaugh'; > 'Doug Rawlings'; 'Elizabeth Acker'; 'Elizabeth Clune'; 'Fort Lewis > Institutional Research'; 'Ginger Otwell'; 'Hui-Min Wen'; 'Jason > Canales'; 'Julie Rao'; 'Laura Coghlan'; 'Laura Dorman'; 'Martha > Davis'; 'Mascetti, Kris'; 'Mathew Wilkerson'; 'Matt Stillman'; 'Nancy > Asher'; 'Nancy Helsper'; 'Orien McGlamery'; 'Pat Parson'; 'Sarah > Maene'; 'Scott Bevins'; 'Tim Hanson'; 'Wrenette Tedder' > *Subject:* RE: Request from Bill Spellman... > > I calculate time to graduate by major based on degrees awarded. > Students change major so many times or declare their major late. > > Babs > > */Babette Varano/*** > > */Assistant Vice President/*** > > */Institutional Effectiveness, Research and Planning/*** > > */blanni at ramapo.edu /*** > > */office phone 201-684-7028/*** > > */cell phone 201-600-2659/*** > > *From:*Carson, Cristi [mailto:ccarson at keene.edu] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:15 AM > *To:* Miller,James L; lboyce at usao.edu; coplac-ir at lists.onenet.net; > Anita Fraley; Archer Gravely; Babs Varano; Beth Carter; Bill Spellman; > Brian Lashley; Cassandra Slaybaugh; Doug Rawlings; Elizabeth Acker; > Elizabeth Clune; Fort Lewis Institutional Research; Ginger Otwell; > Hui-Min Wen; Jason Canales; Julie Rao; Laura Coghlan; Laura Dorman; > Martha Davis; Mascetti, Kris; Mathew Wilkerson; Matt Stillman; Nancy > Asher; Nancy Helsper; Orien McGlamery; Pat Parson; Sarah Maene; Scott > Bevins; Tim Hanson; Wrenette Tedder > *Subject:* RE: Request from Bill Spellman... > > I have just completed a time to graduation study by major. My > approach was to begin with the fall2004 first time first year freshman > cohort, and track them. Is this of interest? > > Cristi > > Cristi Carson, Ph.D. > > Director, Institutional Research > > Keene State College > > Keene, New Hampshire > > 603-358-2117 > > *From:*Miller,James L [mailto:JMiller at uwsuper.edu] > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:16 PM > *To:* lboyce at usao.edu; coplac-ir at lists.onenet.net; 'Anita Fraley'; > 'Archer Gravely'; 'Babs Varano'; 'Beth Carter'; 'Bill Spellman'; > 'Brian Lashley'; 'Cassandra Slaybaugh'; Carson, Cristi; 'Doug > Rawlings'; 'Elizabeth Acker'; 'Elizabeth Clune'; 'Fort Lewis > Institutional Research'; 'Ginger Otwell'; 'Hui-Min Wen'; 'Jason > Canales'; 'Julie Rao'; 'Laura Coghlan'; Laura Dorman; 'Martha Davis'; > 'Mascetti, Kris'; 'Mathew Wilkerson'; 'Matt Stillman'; Nancy Asher; > 'Nancy Helsper'; 'Orien McGlamery'; 'Pat Parson'; 'Sarah Maene'; > 'Scott Bevins'; 'Tim Hanson'; 'Wrenette Tedder' > *Subject:* RE: Request from Bill Spellman... > > Bill, > > We do not, because our "n" counts are small and because at our > university, students declare their major at different times, so it's > difficult to establish a legitimate freshmen cohort by major. We are > trying to determine what metrics should be used to examine > departmental success, but we have not yet solved this one. > > Jim > > Jim Miller > > University of Wisconsin-Superior > > P.O. Box 2000, Belknap & Catlin Streets > > Superior, WI 54880 > > 715/394-8396 > > President > > National Association for College Admission Counseling > > > *From:*lboyce at usao.edu [mailto:lboyce at usao.edu] > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2011 10:40 AM > *To:* coplac-ir at lists.onenet.net; 'Anita Fraley'; 'Archer Gravely'; > 'Babs Varano'; 'Beth Carter'; 'Bill Spellman'; 'Brian Lashley'; > 'Cassandra Slaybaugh'; 'Cristi Carson'; 'Doug Rawlings'; 'Elizabeth > Acker'; 'Elizabeth Clune'; 'Fort Lewis Institutional Research'; > 'Ginger Otwell'; 'Hui-Min Wen'; 'Jason Canales'; Miller,James L; > 'Julie Rao'; 'Laura Coghlan'; Laura Dorman; 'Martha Davis'; 'Mascetti, > Kris'; 'Mathew Wilkerson'; 'Matt Stillman'; Nancy Asher; 'Nancy > Helsper'; 'Orien McGlamery'; 'Pat Parson'; 'Sarah Maene'; 'Scott > Bevins'; 'Tim Hanson'; 'Wrenette Tedder' > *Subject:* Request from Bill Spellman... > > Dear COPLAC Colleagues: > > One of our member institutions is studying rates of graduation by > major and I have been asked if any other COPLAC campuses collect this > data. > > If your campus gathers this information and you would be willing to > share, I would be very grateful. The more recent the data the better > in terms of this study. > > Thank you for your consideration. > > Sincerely, > > Bill > > Bill Spellman > Director > Council of Public Liberal Arts Colleges > One University Heights > Asheville, NC 28804 > (828) 350-4590 > > www.coplac.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.onenet.net/pipermail/coplac-ir/attachments/20110324/45632a23/attachment-0001.html From eaclune at smcm.edu Thu Mar 24 09:07:27 2011 From: eaclune at smcm.edu (Clune, Elizabeth A) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 14:07:27 +0000 Subject: [COPLAC-IR] Request from Bill Spellman... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0EB86249718AD14DAA286E15C6083872170A6F@EXCHDAG1.smcm.edu> Bill, We have the same issue. ~Elizabeth Elizabeth A. Clune-Kneuer, M.Ed. Assistant Director of Institutional Research Office of Institutional Research and Reporting Glendening Hall 146 St. Mary's College of Maryland 18952 E. Fisher Rd. St. Mary's City, MD 20686 ph: (240) 895-4274 fax: (240) 895-4472 From: Scott Bevins [mailto:pb8q at uvawise.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:20 PM To: mwilkers at umw.edu; JMiller at uwsuper.edu; lboyce at usao.edu; coplac-ir at lists.onenet.net; anita.fraley at gcsu.edu; gravely at unca.edu; blanni at ramapo.edu; bcarter at unca.edu; spellman at unca.edu; lashleyb at easternct.edu; cassandra.slaybaugh at mwsu.edu; ccarson at keene.edu; rawlings at maine.edu; emacker at unca.edu; Clune, Elizabeth A; instresearch at fortlewis.edu; otwellg at hsu.edu; HWen at ncf.edu; Jason.Canales at mcla.edu; rao at geneseo.edu; coghlanl at evergreen.edu; dorman.laura at uis.edu; davism at montevallo.edu; kmascett at montevallo.edu; StillmaM at sou.edu; nasher at truman.edu; helsper at morris.umn.edu; mcglamery_o at fortlewis.edu; pat.parson at sonoma.edu; smaene at shepherd.edu; thanson at ualberta.ca; tedderw at hsu.edu Cc: tande at umw.edu; afinelli at umw.edu Subject: Re: Request from Bill Spellman... Bill, UVa-Wise has the same situation as Mary Washington. Scott Scott Bevins (from my Blackberry) Dir of Institutional Research UVA's College at Wise -----Original Message----- From: Mathew Wilkerson (mwilkers) To: Miller,James L ; lboyce at usao.edu ; coplac-ir at lists.onenet.net ; 'Anita Fraley' ; 'Archer Gravely' ; 'Babs Varano' ; 'Beth Carter' ; 'Bill Spellman' ; 'Brian Lashley' ; 'Cassandra Slaybaugh' ; 'Cristi Carson' ; 'Doug Rawlings' ; 'Elizabeth Acker' ; 'Elizabeth Clune' ; 'Fort Lewis Institutional Research' ; 'Ginger Otwell' ; 'Hui-Min Wen' ; 'Jason Canales' ; 'Julie Rao' ; 'Laura Coghlan' ; Laura Dorman ; 'Martha Davis' ; 'Mascetti, Kris' ; 'Matt Stillman' ; Nancy Asher ; 'Nancy Helsper' ; 'Orien McGlamery' ; 'Pat Parson' ; 'Sarah Maene' ; Scott Bevins; 'Tim Hanson' ; 'Wrenette Tedder' CC: Taiwo Ande (tande) ; Ashley Finelli (afinelli) Sent: Wed Mar 23 20:57:44 2011 Subject: RE: Request from Bill Spellman... Bill, We are in the same boat. We do not collect this information either. None of our students begin in a major as first-time college students and our students can declare at different times. Therefore, we are not able to establish cohorts and standards for tracking graduation rates by major. Mathew Wilkerson Director of Institutional Research Office of Institutional Analysis and Effectiveness University of Mary Washington Office: (540) 654-1281 FAX: (540) 654-1358 http://www.umw.edu/iae/ mwilkers at umw.edu From: Miller,James L [mailto:JMiller at uwsuper.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:16 PM To: lboyce at usao.edu; coplac-ir at lists.onenet.net; 'Anita Fraley'; 'Archer Gravely'; 'Babs Varano'; 'Beth Carter'; 'Bill Spellman'; 'Brian Lashley'; 'Cassandra Slaybaugh'; 'Cristi Carson'; 'Doug Rawlings'; 'Elizabeth Acker'; 'Elizabeth Clune'; 'Fort Lewis Institutional Research'; 'Ginger Otwell'; 'Hui-Min Wen'; 'Jason Canales'; 'Julie Rao'; 'Laura Coghlan'; Laura Dorman; 'Martha Davis'; 'Mascetti, Kris'; Mathew Wilkerson (mwilkers); 'Matt Stillman'; Nancy Asher; 'Nancy Helsper'; 'Orien McGlamery'; 'Pat Parson'; 'Sarah Maene'; 'Scott Bevins'; 'Tim Hanson'; 'Wrenette Tedder' Subject: RE: Request from Bill Spellman... Bill, We do not, because our ?n? counts are small and because at our university, students declare their major at different times, so it?s difficult to establish a legitimate freshmen cohort by major. We are trying to determine what metrics should be used to examine departmental success, but we have not yet solved this one. Jim Jim Miller University of Wisconsin-Superior P.O. Box 2000, Belknap & Catlin Streets Superior, WI 54880 715/394-8396 President National Association for College Admission Counseling From: lboyce at usao.edu [mailto:lboyce at usao.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 10:40 AM To: coplac-ir at lists.onenet.net; 'Anita Fraley'; 'Archer Gravely'; 'Babs Varano'; 'Beth Carter'; 'Bill Spellman'; 'Brian Lashley'; 'Cassandra Slaybaugh'; 'Cristi Carson'; 'Doug Rawlings'; 'Elizabeth Acker'; 'Elizabeth Clune'; 'Fort Lewis Institutional Research'; 'Ginger Otwell'; 'Hui-Min Wen'; 'Jason Canales'; Miller,James L; 'Julie Rao'; 'Laura Coghlan'; Laura Dorman; 'Martha Davis'; 'Mascetti, Kris'; 'Mathew Wilkerson'; 'Matt Stillman'; Nancy Asher; 'Nancy Helsper'; 'Orien McGlamery'; 'Pat Parson'; 'Sarah Maene'; 'Scott Bevins'; 'Tim Hanson'; 'Wrenette Tedder' Subject: Request from Bill Spellman... Dear COPLAC Colleagues: One of our member institutions is studying rates of graduation by major and I have been asked if any other COPLAC campuses collect this data. If your campus gathers this information and you would be willing to share, I would be very grateful. The more recent the data the better in terms of this study. Thank you for your consideration. Sincerely, Bill Bill Spellman Director Council of Public Liberal Arts Colleges One University Heights Asheville, NC 28804 (828) 350-4590 www.coplac.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.onenet.net/pipermail/coplac-ir/attachments/20110324/56b6e470/attachment-0001.html From anita.fraley at gcsu.edu Thu Mar 24 11:26:28 2011 From: anita.fraley at gcsu.edu (Anita Fraley) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:26:28 -0400 Subject: [COPLAC-IR] Request from Bill Spellman... In-Reply-To: <004a01cbea25$698ba4c0$3ca2ee40$@edu> References: <017701cbe970$9c5d4bc0$d517e340$@edu> <141D55ECF826FE4191E0E1832C7AD82A1AAF776B3C@EXCH2.uws.uwsuper.edu> <0BFD395B116D224A92CE21E4A7050EE9B6370A@washington.keene.edu> <004a01cbea25$698ba4c0$3ca2ee40$@edu> Message-ID: <92D0425E55362A4696136E6D004DB0D825E04FD08B@EX07-CMS.gc.local> Georgia College currently collects and reports graduation rates by department and major (in our department chairs annual report, an internal document). Our students have the opportunity to declare a major upon entry, although a substantial number do not and there is significant movement between majors over time. Thus the concerns of other schools are also a factor for GC. We calculate 4, 5 and 6 year graduation rates by entry major for the IPEDS cohort AND 4, 5 and 6 year graduation rates by major at the start of the seventh term (nominal junior year) for the IPEDS cohort. While the second metric does give a more balanced assessment of the impact of the department on the graduation rate it is clearly not without problems. We are investigating possibly using some variation of the following metrics (proposed by Dr. Mike Crow, IR director at Savannah State university): 1. include only students of junior or senior status declaring the major as the denominator. It is not as clean but it will miss all the students who go away or switch majors as a result of interacting mainly with the lower division core curriculum (thus, in many settings most of the generalized attrition)-who should not be counted as attrition against a particular major. 2. calculate "graduate production rates" where the denominator is the number of seniors claiming the major AND enrolled in courses in the major in the year and the numerator is the number actually graduated from the major in the same academic year. 3. calculating "program efficiency rates" where the denominator is the total number of students claiming the major AND enrolled in courses in the major for a given academic year and the numerator is the total number of graduates from the major for the same academic year. GC would be interested in participating in a COPLAC based data collection system if a standardized metric could be established. B. Edward Hale, Ph.D. Director Office of Institutional Research Chief Data Officer Georgia College & State University Georgia's Public Liberal Arts University 478-445-3350 (voice) 478-445-3221 (fax) 478-445-6353 (direct) ed.hale at gcsu.edu Anita Fraley Georgia College & State University Institutional Research Campus Box 52 Milledgeville, GA 31061 478-445-3350 Phone 478-445-3221 Fax From: lboyce at usao.edu [mailto:lboyce at usao.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 10:40 AM To: coplac-ir at lists.onenet.net; 'Anita Fraley'; 'Archer Gravely'; 'Babs Varano'; 'Beth Carter'; 'Bill Spellman'; 'Brian Lashley'; 'Cassandra Slaybaugh'; 'Cristi Carson'; 'Doug Rawlings'; 'Elizabeth Acker'; 'Elizabeth Clune'; 'Fort Lewis Institutional Research'; 'Ginger Otwell'; 'Hui-Min Wen'; 'Jason Canales'; Miller,James L; 'Julie Rao'; 'Laura Coghlan'; Laura Dorman; 'Martha Davis'; 'Mascetti, Kris'; 'Mathew Wilkerson'; 'Matt Stillman'; Nancy Asher; 'Nancy Helsper'; 'Orien McGlamery'; 'Pat Parson'; 'Sarah Maene'; 'Scott Bevins'; 'Tim Hanson'; 'Wrenette Tedder' Subject: Request from Bill Spellman... Dear COPLAC Colleagues: One of our member institutions is studying rates of graduation by major and I have been asked if any other COPLAC campuses collect this data. If your campus gathers this information and you would be willing to share, I would be very grateful. The more recent the data the better in terms of this study. Thank you for your consideration. Sincerely, Bill Bill Spellman Director Council of Public Liberal Arts Colleges One University Heights Asheville, NC 28804 (828) 350-4590 www.coplac.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.onenet.net/pipermail/coplac-ir/attachments/20110324/b388b711/attachment.html