[COPLAC-IR] FW: COPLAC Annual Data Profile Question.

Tue May 3 10:33:24 CDT 2011

I would prefer to see us also submit the most current information.
_______________________________________________
 Jason Canales
 Staff Assistant, Institutional Research
 Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts
 Office of Institutional Research, Assessment and Planning
 375 Church Street | North Adams, MA 01247
 P: (413) 662-5413 | F: (413) 662-5095
 jason.canales at mcla.edu
 www.mcla.edu

"Dorman, Laura Gransky" <lgran1 at uis.edu> writes:
>Lynn,
>
> 
>
>I agree with Richard.  I would prefer to submit the most recent
>information available.  
>
> 
>
>Laura Dorman
>
>University of Illinois Springfield
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>From: coplac-ir-bounces at lists.onenet.net
>[mailto:coplac-ir-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of Miller, Richard A
>Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:10 AM
>To: Lynn Boyce; coplac-ir at lists.onenet.net
>Cc: Roderick, Stephen
>Subject: Re: [COPLAC-IR] FW: COPLAC Annual Data Profile Question.
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>Lynn:  
>
>                
>
>My opinion for what it’s worth – 
>
> 
>
>The apples/oranges metaphor only arises as an issue if we calculate
>ratios between the datasets  (I generally resist that urge).  
>
> 
>
>I support 10/11  enrollment and staffing figures, 10/11 financial aid
>figures (from the CDS), and 09-10 finance figures.  
>
> 
>
>I generally benchmark – which doesn’t really require me to calculate
>ratios between sections.  
>
> 
>
>To re-iterate --- I’d prefer to have the most recent information
>available – information that maps back to official data (CDS/IPEDS/etc)
>.  
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Cheers.  
>
> 
>
>Richard A. Miller 
>
>Executive Director 
>
>OIRPA 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>From: coplac-ir-bounces at lists.onenet.net
>[mailto:coplac-ir-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of Lynn Boyce
>Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 9:02 AM
>To: coplac-ir at lists.onenet.net
>Subject: Re: [COPLAC-IR] FW: COPLAC Annual Data Profile Question.
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>Hi Elizabeth & all,
>
> 
>
>Based on Elizabeth’s observations below, it would seem to make more sense
>to leave the data profile as it stands.  If you provide AY10-11 student
>and faculty numbers (Sects. 1 & 3), but the AY09-10 financial aid
>supporting students during fall 2009 and spring 2010 (Sect. 5), you would
>end up not comparing apples to apples.  It appears that it pretty much
>hinges on the latest available financial aid numbers,  which appears to
>be AY10.  So all sections referring to the profile of student need to
>remain in that time frame.  That would be my vote
does that make sense to
>you ‘all?
>
> 
>
>Lynn
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>From: Clune, Elizabeth A [mailto:eaclune at smcm.edu] 
>Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:40 AM
>To: Lynn Boyce; coplac-ir at lists.onenet.net
>Subject: RE: [COPLAC-IR] FW: COPLAC Annual Data Profile Question.
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>Hi Lynn and everyone! 
>
> 
>
>I am not sure of the history of why some of the metrics refer to the
>10-11 CDS, but others use FA09 data.  In Section II #6 and 7 refer to the
>10-11 CDS, which would have be believe that most people would have the
>completed to have this constructed in this manner.  
>
> 
>
>I can provide the CDS data for 10-11, but there are some other metrics
>that I don’t have the data for 10-11 by the timetable that you are
>requesting yet such as: 
>
> 
>
>·        Degrees awarded  (Section II # 4-5) 
>
>·        Alumni survey information (Section II #8) 
>
>·        Financial aid budget (Section V #16c-j) 
>
> 
>
>Additionally:
>
> 
>
>·        Section III #12 refers to IPEDS HR Survey, but the FA09 not
>FA10, which is the most recent IPEDS report that was locked.  
>
>·        Section IV #13 and 14 refer to the IPEDS Finance report, which I
>have as my most recent reported fiscal year (09-10) 
>
>·        Section IV #15 (advancement) for me usually reports on the same
>timetable as our FY (so 09-10 would make sense and be the most recent
>that I can report).  
>
> 
>
>I hope that this helps.  Sorry for writing a massive amount.
>
> 
>
>~Elizabeth 
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>Elizabeth A. Clune-Kneuer, M.Ed. 
>
>Assistant Director of Institutional Research 
>
>Office of Institutional Research and Reporting
>
>Glendening Hall 146 
>
>St. Mary's College of Maryland
>
>18952 E. Fisher Rd. 
>
>St. Mary's City, MD 20686
>
>ph:  (240) 895-4274
>
>fax: (240) 895-4472
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>From: coplac-ir-bounces at lists.onenet.net
>[mailto:coplac-ir-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of Lynn Boyce
>Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:28 PM
>To: coplac-ir at lists.onenet.net
>Subject: [COPLAC-IR] FW: COPLAC Annual Data Profile Question.
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>Does anyone have an answer to Nancy’s question below?  I had always
>assumed that it was because some schools do not have all of their
>information for the current CDS so we do the latest year all schools have
>data for
is this correct?  Is there anyone who can’t provide fall 2010
>data in the survey where it requests fall 2009 data?
>
> 
>
>Thanks!
>
> 
>
>Lynn
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>J. Lynn Boyce
>
>Vice President for Information Services and Technology 
>
>University of Science and Arts of Oklahoma
>
>[ http://www.usao.edu ]http://www.usao.edu
>
>[ mailto:lboyce at usao.edu ]lboyce at usao.edu
>
>1727 W. Alabama
>
>Chickasha, OK 73018
>
>405.224.3140 (voice)
>
>405.574.1220 (fax)
>
> 
>
>Treasurer (2006 – 2012)
>
>Oklahoma Association of Institutional Research (OKAIR)
>
>[ http://www.okairp.org ]http://www.okairp.org
>
> 
>
>Information Services will never ask for your password.   Never email your
>password to anyone!
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>From: Asher, Nancy [mailto:nasher at truman.edu] 
>Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:20 PM
>To: lboyce at usao.edu
>Subject: COPLAC Annual Data Profile Question.
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>Lynn,
>
> 
>
>Why isn’t section I based on the 2010-11 Common Data Set instead of the
>fall 2009-10 since the fall 2010 information is available?  Just
>wondering.
>
> 
>
>Nancy
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>Nancy Asher
>
>Coordinator of Testing & Reporting and Associate Budget Officer
>
>Truman State University
>
>Assessment & Testing Office
>
>1130 Violette Hall
>
>100 E Normal
>
>Kirksville, MO 63501
>
>660-785-4140
>
>fax: 660-785-4332
>
>nasher at truman.edu
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>From: lboyce at usao.edu [mailto:lboyce at usao.edu] 
>Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:12 AM
>To: 'Anita Fraley'; 'Archer Gravely'; 'Babs Varano'; 'Beth Carter'; 'Bill
>Spellman'; 'Brian Lashley'; 'Cassandra Slaybaugh'; 'Cristi Carson'; 'Doug
>Rawlings'; 'Elizabeth Acker'; 'Elizabeth Clune'; 'Fort Lewis
>Institutional Research'; 'Ginger Otwell'; 'Hui-Min Wen'; 'Jason Canales';
>'Jim Miller'; 'Julie Rao'; 'Laura Coghlan'; Laura Dorman; 'Martha Davis';
>'Mascetti, Kris'; 'Mathew Wilkerson'; 'Matt Stillman'; Asher, Nancy;
>'Nancy Helsper'; 'Orien McGlamery'; 'Pat Parson'; 'Sarah Maene'; 'Scott
>Bevins'; 'Tim Hanson'; 'Wrenette Tedder'
>Subject: COPLAC Annual Data Profile has been emailed...
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>If you did not receive the Annual Data Profile, which was emailed to the
>COPLAC IR list, please let me know so that we can get you added!
>
> 
>
>Lynn
>
> 
>
>J. Lynn Boyce
>
>Vice President for Information Services and Technology 
>
>University of Science and Arts of Oklahoma
>
>[ http://www.usao.edu ]http://www.usao.edu
>
>[ mailto:lboyce at usao.edu ]lboyce at usao.edu
>
>1727 W. Alabama
>
>Chickasha, OK 73018
>
>405.224.3140 (voice)
>
>405.574.1220 (fax)
>
> 
>
>Treasurer (2006 – 2012)
>
>Oklahoma Association of Institutional Research (OKAIR)
>
>[ http://www.okairp.org ]http://www.okairp.org
>
> 
>
>Information Services will never ask for your password.   Never email your
>password to anyone!
>
> 
>
>_______________________________________________
>COPLAC-IR mailing list
>COPLAC-IR at lists.onenet.net
>http://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/coplac-ir