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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Lynn: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>My opinion for what it’s worth – <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The apples/oranges metaphor only arises as an issue if we calculate ratios between the datasets (I generally resist that urge). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I support 10/11 enrollment and staffing figures, 10/11 financial aid figures (from the CDS), and 09-10 finance figures. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I generally benchmark – which doesn’t really require me to calculate ratios between sections. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>To re-iterate --- I’d prefer to have the most recent information available – information that maps back to official data (CDS/IPEDS/etc) . <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Cheers. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Richard A. Miller <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Executive Director <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>OIRPA <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> coplac-ir-bounces@lists.onenet.net [mailto:coplac-ir-bounces@lists.onenet.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lynn Boyce<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 03, 2011 9:02 AM<br><b>To:</b> coplac-ir@lists.onenet.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [COPLAC-IR] FW: COPLAC Annual Data Profile Question.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Elizabeth & all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Based on Elizabeth’s observations below, it would seem to make more sense to leave the data profile as it stands. If you provide AY10-11 student and faculty numbers (Sects. 1 & 3), but the AY09-10 financial aid supporting students during fall 2009 and spring 2010 (Sect. 5), you would end up not comparing apples to apples. It appears that it pretty much hinges on the latest available financial aid numbers, which appears to be AY10. So all sections referring to the profile of student need to remain in that time frame. That would be my vote…does that make sense to you ‘all?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Lynn<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Clune, Elizabeth A [mailto:eaclune@smcm.edu] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> Lynn Boyce; coplac-ir@lists.onenet.net<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [COPLAC-IR] FW: COPLAC Annual Data Profile Question.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#270F8D'>Hi Lynn and everyone! <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#270F8D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#270F8D'>I am not sure of the history of why some of the metrics refer to the 10-11 CDS, but others use FA09 data. In Section II #6 and 7 refer to the 10-11 CDS, which would have be believe that most people would have the completed to have this constructed in this manner. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#270F8D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#270F8D'>I can provide the CDS data for 10-11, but there are some other metrics that I don’t have the data for 10-11 by the timetable that you are requesting yet such as: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#270F8D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:#270F8D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#270F8D'>Degrees awarded (Section II # 4-5) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:#270F8D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#270F8D'>Alumni survey information (Section II #8) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:#270F8D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#270F8D'>Financial aid budget (Section V #16c-j) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#270F8D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#270F8D'>Additionally:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#270F8D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:38.7pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:#270F8D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#270F8D'>Section III #12 refers to IPEDS HR Survey, but the FA09 not FA10, which is the most recent IPEDS report that was locked. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:38.7pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:#270F8D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#270F8D'>Section IV #13 and 14 refer to the IPEDS Finance report, which I have as my most recent reported fiscal year (09-10) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:38.7pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:#270F8D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#270F8D'>Section IV #15 (advancement) for me usually reports on the same timetable as our FY (so 09-10 would make sense and be the most recent that I can report). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#270F8D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#270F8D'>I hope that this helps. Sorry for writing a massive amount.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#270F8D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#270F8D'>~Elizabeth <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#270F8D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:#270F8D'>Elizabeth A. Clune-Kneuer, M.Ed. </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:#270F8D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#270F8D'>Assistant Director of Institutional Research <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#270F8D'>Office of Institutional Research and Reporting<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#270F8D'>Glendening Hall 146 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#270F8D'>St. Mary's College of Maryland<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#270F8D'>18952 E. Fisher Rd. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#270F8D'>St. Mary's City, MD 20686<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#270F8D'>ph: (240) 895-4274<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#270F8D'>fax: (240) 895-4472<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#270F8D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> coplac-ir-bounces@lists.onenet.net [mailto:coplac-ir-bounces@lists.onenet.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lynn Boyce<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 02, 2011 3:28 PM<br><b>To:</b> coplac-ir@lists.onenet.net<br><b>Subject:</b> [COPLAC-IR] FW: COPLAC Annual Data Profile Question.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Does anyone have an answer to Nancy’s question below? I had always assumed that it was because some schools do not have all of their information for the current CDS so we do the latest year all schools have data for…is this correct? Is there anyone who can’t provide fall 2010 data in the survey where it requests fall 2009 data?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Lynn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>J. Lynn Boyce<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Vice President for Information Services and Technology <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>University of Science and Arts of Oklahoma<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.usao.edu">http://www.usao.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:lboyce@usao.edu">lboyce@usao.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>1727 W. Alabama<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Chickasha, OK 73018<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>405.224.3140 (voice)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>405.574.1220 (fax)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Treasurer (2006 – 2012)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Oklahoma Association of Institutional Research (OKAIR)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.okairp.org">http://www.okairp.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:red'>Information Services will <u>never</u> ask for your password. <u>Never</u> email your password to anyone!</span></b><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Asher, Nancy [mailto:nasher@truman.edu] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> lboyce@usao.edu<br><b>Subject:</b> COPLAC Annual Data Profile Question.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Lynn,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Why isn’t section I based on the 2010-11 Common Data Set instead of the fall 2009-10 since the fall 2010 information is available? Just wondering.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Nancy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Nancy Asher<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Coordinator of Testing & Reporting and Associate Budget Officer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Truman State University<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Assessment & Testing Office<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>1130 Violette Hall<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>100 E Normal<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Kirksville, MO 63501<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>660-785-4140<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>fax: 660-785-4332<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>nasher@truman.edu<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> lboyce@usao.edu [mailto:lboyce@usao.edu] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:12 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Anita Fraley'; 'Archer Gravely'; 'Babs Varano'; 'Beth Carter'; 'Bill Spellman'; 'Brian Lashley'; 'Cassandra Slaybaugh'; 'Cristi Carson'; 'Doug Rawlings'; 'Elizabeth Acker'; 'Elizabeth Clune'; 'Fort Lewis Institutional Research'; 'Ginger Otwell'; 'Hui-Min Wen'; 'Jason Canales'; 'Jim Miller'; 'Julie Rao'; 'Laura Coghlan'; Laura Dorman; 'Martha Davis'; 'Mascetti, Kris'; 'Mathew Wilkerson'; 'Matt Stillman'; Asher, Nancy; 'Nancy Helsper'; 'Orien McGlamery'; 'Pat Parson'; 'Sarah Maene'; 'Scott Bevins'; 'Tim Hanson'; 'Wrenette Tedder'<br><b>Subject:</b> COPLAC Annual Data Profile has been emailed...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>If you did not receive the Annual Data Profile, which was emailed to the COPLAC IR list, please let me know so that we can get you added!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Lynn<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>J. Lynn Boyce<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Vice President for Information Services and Technology <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>University of Science and Arts of Oklahoma<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.usao.edu">http://www.usao.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:lboyce@usao.edu">lboyce@usao.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>1727 W. Alabama<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Chickasha, OK 73018<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>405.224.3140 (voice)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>405.574.1220 (fax)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Treasurer (2006 – 2012)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Oklahoma Association of Institutional Research (OKAIR)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.okairp.org">http://www.okairp.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:red'>Information Services will <u>never</u> ask for your password. <u>Never</u> email your password to anyone!</span></b><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>