From lnelson at osrhe.edu Tue Oct 1 09:06:03 2013 From: lnelson at osrhe.edu (Nelson, Lisa) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:06:03 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] Fwd: Help please In-Reply-To: <459A0D2D24FB864FA1FFE8C75CED65C721F43EB6@BBISD-EXCHANGE.bbisd.org> References: <459A0D2D24FB864FA1FFE8C75CED65C721F43EB6@BBISD-EXCHANGE.bbisd.org> Message-ID: <61E39AD4-3D40-4A76-B7FF-85494BF37516@osrhe.edu> If anyone has any insight for Kelly, please respond to this email or email Kelly directly at kjennings at bbisd. org Thank you, Lisa Nelson Field Coordinator Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education 580.614.1328 Begin forwarded message: From: Kelly Jennings > Date: October 1, 2013, 9:02:19 AM CDT To: Melissa White >, "Nelson, Lisa" > Subject: Help please Melissa and Lisa?Can you post a question to OK School Counselors for me? We have about 100 Marshallese students in Broken Bow schools and would like to know if other communities have a large number of Marshallese and if they have any programs to help. Are there any on-line ELL Programs for Marshallese to learn English, etc? I?ve searched and can?t find much. Thanks, Kelly Kelly Jennings, Counselor Bennett Elementary School and Rector Johnson Middle School 108 West 5th Street Broken Bow, OK 74728 Phone: 580-584-9603 Internal Direct: 4300 Mobile: 580-306-1141 Fax: 580-584-2549 Email: kjennings at bbisd.org From lnelson at osrhe.edu Fri Oct 4 14:32:24 2013 From: lnelson at osrhe.edu (Nelson, Lisa) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 19:32:24 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] FW: Concurrent Classes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8DD76B7FB621AC409D7CE57771C370732BA2B5CF@Drake.osrhe.edu> Counselors, Please reply to this email or you can reply to Sandra directly at scarter at maysville.k12.ok.us. Thank you, Lisa Nelson Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education Field Coordinator for Student Preparation 580.614.1328 lnelson at osrhe.edu www.okhighered.org/epas "Give a little love to a child, and you get a great deal back." John Ruskin Lisa can you please pass the following question along to other counselors. I am wondering how most schools do this. For your kids that are Concurrent students do you just plug in their grade on the transcript or do you put the class on their schedule in the school system? We use ISIS and didn't know if you put it as a class in LEA or if you just put in on Transcript when you get the grades? Thank you, -- Sandra Carter Maysville High School 600 1st Street Maysville, OK 73057 (405) 867-4410 Fax: (405) 867-1240 scarter at maysville.k12.ok.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lnelson at osrhe.edu Fri Oct 4 15:29:44 2013 From: lnelson at osrhe.edu (Nelson, Lisa) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 20:29:44 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] FW: Concurrent Classes In-Reply-To: References: <8DD76B7FB621AC409D7CE57771C370732BA2B5CF@Drake.osrhe.edu> Message-ID: <8DD76B7FB621AC409D7CE57771C370732BA2C85B@Drake.osrhe.edu> 1. I put it directly on transcript when I receive grades. I do list them as concurrent on their schedule and use my name as instructor. - Carrie Thomason cthomason at indiahoma.k12.ok.us 2. I am in a college town, so scheduling is easy. We actually add the college classes to their schedule. For example: [ ] Section Course Name Teacher Per Terms Scheduled Days Room [ ] 1282313.01 BioNWOSU 1 S1 Every [ ] 1284054.01 Eng IVArts Simon, Halah Rae 2 S1, S2 Every 102 [ ] 1248030.01 Greenhouse Chegwidden, Jessica 3 S1, S2 Every 201 [ ] 1275410.03 Am HistArts Olbert, Francis Gene 4 S1, S2 Every 105 [ ] 1263162.01 Spanish II Stout, Rose Mary 5 S1, S2 Every 120 [ ] 1283083.01 Sh Choir IV Cummings, Ramona 6 S1, S2 Every 101 [ ] 128111.07 Bio Lab NWOS 7 S1 Every Tammy Duncan Alva High School Counselor District Test Coordinator (580)327-3682 tsduncan at alvaschools.net 3. We just put it on transcripts at the bottom. We don't put it through ISIS and dont figure it in GPA at Canute.- Sheri Teeter sheri_teeter at yahoo.com 4. My son is at Deer Creek and he is listed as having concurrent enrollment on his actual school schedule. The teacher?s name is listed as his counselor. So, when I pull up his grades online, I see those classes but no grades at this time. To see those grades, you have to go to the actual college website. Make sense? ? Staci Wayant Swayant at putnamcityschools.org 5. You code the classes on the transcript and the schedule. Use 9999 in ISIS and the code related to type of class from section. If you have questions, please call me and I will explain it. LaDonna Jones ljones at eldorado.k12.ok.us ________________________________ Lisa Nelson Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education Field Coordinator for Student Preparation 580.614.1328 lnelson at osrhe.edu www.okhighered.org/epas ?Give a little love to a child, and you get a great deal back.? John Ruskin From: kareng at sweetwater.k12.ok.us [mailto:kareng at sweetwater.k12.ok.us] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:22 PM To: Nelson, Lisa Subject: Re: [Counselors] FW: Concurrent Classes Great Question, I would like to know that also. Karen Gracey Sweetwater Schools kareng at sweetwater.k12.ok.us From: Nelson, Lisa Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 2:32 PM To: counselors at lists.onenet.net Subject: [Counselors] FW: Concurrent Classes Counselors, Please reply to this email or you can reply to Sandra directly at scarter at maysville.k12.ok.us. Thank you, Lisa Nelson Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education Field Coordinator for Student Preparation 580.614.1328 lnelson at osrhe.edu www.okhighered.org/epas ?Give a little love to a child, and you get a great deal back.? John Ruskin Lisa can you please pass the following question along to other counselors. I am wondering how most schools do this. For your kids that are Concurrent students do you just plug in their grade on the transcript or do you put the class on their schedule in the school system? We use ISIS and didn't know if you put it as a class in LEA or if you just put in on Transcript when you get the grades? Thank you, -- Sandra Carter Maysville High School 600 1st Street Maysville, OK 73057 (405) 867-4410 Fax: (405) 867-1240 scarter at maysville.k12.ok.us ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Counselors mailing list Counselors at lists.onenet.net http://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lnelson at osrhe.edu Fri Oct 4 16:10:48 2013 From: lnelson at osrhe.edu (Nelson, Lisa) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 21:10:48 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] FW: FW: Concurrent Classes In-Reply-To: <52f26f4ac42594ab8ea08d44450a29ac@calvin.k12.ok.us> References: <52f26f4ac42594ab8ea08d44450a29ac@calvin.k12.ok.us> Message-ID: <8DD76B7FB621AC409D7CE57771C370732BA2C8DD@Drake.osrhe.edu> Another question, please see highlighted area. Other responses are below. Lisa Nelson Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education Field Coordinator for Student Preparation 580.614.1328 lnelson at osrhe.edu www.okhighered.org/epas ?Give a little love to a child, and you get a great deal back.? John Ruskin From: pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us [mailto:pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 4:07 PM To: Nelson, Lisa Subject: Re: [Counselors] FW: Concurrent Classes Does anyone weight the grade? And if it is substituting for a core class (English 4) wouldn't you figure into GPA? Sent from my HTC One? VX, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Nelson, Lisa" > To: "counselors at lists.onenet.net" > Subject: [Counselors] FW: Concurrent Classes Date: Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:29 PM 1. I put it directly on transcript when I receive grades. I do list them as concurrent on their schedule and use my name as instructor. - Carrie Thomason cthomason at indiahoma.k12.ok.us> 2. I am in a college town, so scheduling is easy. We actually add the college classes to their schedule. For example: [ ] Section Course Name Teacher Per Terms Scheduled Days Room [ ] 1282313.01 BioNWOSU 1 S1 Every [ ] 1284054.01 Eng IVArts Simon, Halah Rae 2 S1, S2 Every 102 [ ] 1248030.01 Greenhouse Chegwidden, Jessica 3 S1, S2 Every 201 [ ] 1275410.03 Am HistArts Olbert, Francis Gene 4 S1, S2 Every 105 [ ] 1263162.01 Spanish II Stout, Rose Mary 5 S1, S2 Every 120 [ ] 1283083.01 Sh Choir IV Cummings, Ramona 6 S1, S2 Every 101 [ ] 128111.07 Bio Lab NWOS 7 S1 Every Tammy Duncan Alva High School Counselor District Test Coordinator (580)327-3682 tsduncan at alvaschools.net> 3. We just put it on transcripts at the bottom. We don't put it through ISIS and dont figure it in GPA at Canute.- Sheri Teeter sheri_teeter at yahoo.com> 4. My son is at Deer Creek and he is listed as having concurrent enrollment on his actual school schedule. The teacher?s name is listed as his counselor. So, when I pull up his grades online, I see those classes but no grades at this time. To see those grades, you have to go to the actual college website. Make sense? ? Staci Wayant Swayant at putnamcityschools.org> 5. You code the classes on the transcript and the schedule. Use 9999 in ISIS and the code related to type of class from section. If you have questions, please call me and I will explain it. LaDonna Jones ljones at eldorado.k12.ok.us> ________________________________ Lisa Nelson Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education Field Coordinator for Student Preparation 580.614.1328 lnelson at osrhe.edu> www.okhighered.org/epas> ?Give a little love to a child, and you get a great deal back.? John Ruskin From: kareng at sweetwater.k12.ok.us [mailto:kareng at sweetwater.k12.ok.us] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:22 PM To: Nelson, Lisa Subject: Re: [Counselors] FW: Concurrent Classes Great Question, I would like to know that also. Karen Gracey Sweetwater Schools kareng at sweetwater.k12.ok.us> From: Nelson, Lisa Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 2:32 PM To: counselors at lists.onenet.net> Subject: [Counselors] FW: Concurrent Classes Counselors, Please reply to this email or you can reply to Sandra directly at scarter at maysville.k12.ok.us>. Thank you, Lisa Nelson Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education Field Coordinator for Student Preparation 580.614.1328 lnelson at osrhe.edu> www.okhighered.org/epas> ?Give a little love to a child, and you get a great deal back.? John Ruskin Lisa can you please pass the following question along to other counselors. I am wondering how most schools do this. For your kids that are Concurrent students do you just plug in their grade on the transcript or do you put the class on their schedule in the school system? We use ISIS and didn't know if you put it as a class in LEA or if you just put in on Transcript when you get the grades? Thank you, -- Sandra Carter Maysville High School 600 1st Street Maysville, OK 73057 (405) 867-4410 Fax: (405) 867-1240 scarter at maysville.k12.ok.us> ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Counselors mailing list Counselors at lists.onenet.net> http://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lnelson at osrhe.edu Fri Oct 4 18:38:58 2013 From: lnelson at osrhe.edu (Nelson, Lisa) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 23:38:58 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] FW: FW: Concurrent Classes In-Reply-To: <8DD76B7FB621AC409D7CE57771C370732BA2C8DD@Drake.osrhe.edu> References: <52f26f4ac42594ab8ea08d44450a29ac@calvin.k12.ok.us> <8DD76B7FB621AC409D7CE57771C370732BA2C8DD@Drake.osrhe.edu> Message-ID: <8DD76B7FB621AC409D7CE57771C370732BA2DAD3@Drake.osrhe.edu> I?m sorry I fixed Tammy?s response from Alva. You?ll see the questions highlighted and the answers are above them. Here are answers to the 2nd question: It is unweighted and figured into the high school and college GPA at our school. College govt will take the place of regular HS govt, college algebra will count as a year of math, etc. hope that helps! Staci Wayant Swayant at putnamcityschools.org If core class we count as such, no weighted score - college grade is high school grade. We do not weight AP either. Non core classes are electives. John J Bolander MEd. HS Counselor Prague HS 405-567-2281 x241 fx 405-567-4982 Lisa Nelson Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education Field Coordinator for Student Preparation 580.614.1328 lnelson at osrhe.edu www.okhighered.org/epas ?Give a little love to a child, and you get a great deal back.? John Ruskin From: Nelson, Lisa Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 4:11 PM To: counselors at lists.onenet.net Subject: FW: [Counselors] FW: Concurrent Classes Another question, please see highlighted area. Other responses are below. Lisa Nelson Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education Field Coordinator for Student Preparation 580.614.1328 lnelson at osrhe.edu www.okhighered.org/epas ?Give a little love to a child, and you get a great deal back.? John Ruskin From: pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us [mailto:pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 4:07 PM To: Nelson, Lisa Subject: Re: [Counselors] FW: Concurrent Classes 2. question: Does anyone weight the grade? And if it is substituting for a core class (English 4) wouldn't you figure into GPA? Sent from my HTC One? VX, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Nelson, Lisa" > To: "counselors at lists.onenet.net" > Subject: [Counselors] FW: Concurrent Classes Date: Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:29 PM 1. I put it directly on transcript when I receive grades. I do list them as concurrent on their schedule and use my name as instructor. - Carrie Thomason cthomason at indiahoma.k12.ok.us> 2. I am in a college town, so scheduling is easy. We actually add the college classes to their schedule. 3. See below [cid:image003.jpg at 01CEC130.F09460D0] 4.. We just put it on transcripts at the bottom. We don't put it through ISIS and dont figure it in GPA at Canute.- Sheri Teeter sheri_teeter at yahoo.com> 5.. My son is at Deer Creek and he is listed as having concurrent enrollment on his actual school schedule. The teacher?s name is listed as his counselor. So, when I pull up his grades online, I see those classes but no grades at this time. To see those grades, you have to go to the actual college website. Make sense? ? Staci Wayant Swayant at putnamcityschools.org> 6.. You code the classes on the transcript and the schedule. Use 9999 in ISIS and the code related to type of class from section. If you have questions, please call me and I will explain it. LaDonna Jones ljones at eldorado.k12.ok.us> 7.. We place it on the schedule as concurrent and then post a grade when received. It is calculated in the GPA. Becky Copeland Counselor, H-O Owasso High School Direct Line: 918-272-8030 FAX: 918-272-8028 becky.copeland at owasso.k12.ok.us ________________________________ Lisa Nelson Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education Field Coordinator for Student Preparation 580.614.1328 lnelson at osrhe.edu> www.okhighered.org/epas> ?Give a little love to a child, and you get a great deal back.? John Ruskin From: kareng at sweetwater.k12.ok.us [mailto:kareng at sweetwater.k12.ok.us] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:22 PM To: Nelson, Lisa Subject: Re: [Counselors] FW: Concurrent Classes Great Question, I would like to know that also. Karen Gracey Sweetwater Schools kareng at sweetwater.k12.ok.us> From: Nelson, Lisa Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 2:32 PM To: counselors at lists.onenet.net> Subject: [Counselors] FW: Concurrent Classes Counselors, Please reply to this email or you can reply to Sandra directly at scarter at maysville.k12.ok.us>. Thank you, Lisa Nelson Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education Field Coordinator for Student Preparation 580.614.1328 lnelson at osrhe.edu> www.okhighered.org/epas> ?Give a little love to a child, and you get a great deal back.? John Ruskin Lisa can you please pass the following question along to other counselors. I am wondering how most schools do this. 1. Question: For your kids that are Concurrent students do you just plug in their grade on the transcript or do you put the class on their schedule in the school system? We use ISIS and didn't know if you put it as a class in LEA or if you just put in on Transcript when you get the grades? 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I put it directly on transcript when I receive grades. I do list them as concurrent on their schedule and use my name as instructor. - Carrie Thomason cthomason at indiahoma.k12.ok.us 2. I am in a college town, so scheduling is easy. We actually add the college classes to their schedule. For example: [ ] Section Course Name Teacher Per Terms Scheduled Days Room [ ] 1282313.01 BioNWOSU 1 S1 Every [ ] 1284054.01 Eng IVArts Simon, Halah Rae 2 S1, S2 Every 102 [ ] 1248030.01 Greenhouse Chegwidden, Jessica 3 S1, S2 Every 201 [ ] 1275410.03 Am HistArts Olbert, Francis Gene 4 S1, S2 Every 105 [ ] 1263162.01 Spanish II Stout, Rose Mary 5 S1, S2 Every 120 [ ] 1283083.01 Sh Choir IV Cummings, Ramona 6 S1, S2 Every 101 [ ] 128111.07 Bio Lab NWOS 7 S1 Every Tammy Duncan Alva High School Counselor District Test Coordinator (580)327-3682 tsduncan at alvaschools.net 3. We just put it on transcripts at the bottom. We don't put it through ISIS and dont figure it in GPA at Canute.- Sheri Teeter sheri_teeter at yahoo.com 4. My son is at Deer Creek and he is listed as having concurrent enrollment on his actual school schedule. The teacher?s name is listed as his counselor. So, when I pull up his grades online, I see those classes but no grades at this time. To see those grades, you have to go to the actual college website. Make sense? ? Staci Wayant Swayant at putnamcityschools.org 5. You code the classes on the transcript and the schedule. Use 9999 in ISIS and the code related to type of class from section. If you have questions, please call me and I will explain it. LaDonna Jones ljones at eldorado.k12.ok.us ________________________________ Lisa Nelson Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education Field Coordinator for Student Preparation 580.614.1328 lnelson at osrhe.edu www.okhighered.org/epas ?Give a little love to a child, and you get a great deal back.? John Ruskin From: kareng at sweetwater.k12.ok.us [mailto:kareng at sweetwater.k12.ok.us] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:22 PM To: Nelson, Lisa Subject: Re: [Counselors] FW: Concurrent Classes Great Question, I would like to know that also. Karen Gracey Sweetwater Schools kareng at sweetwater.k12.ok.us From: Nelson, Lisa Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 2:32 PM To: counselors at lists.onenet.net Subject: [Counselors] FW: Concurrent Classes Counselors, Please reply to this email or you can reply to Sandra directly at scarter at maysville.k12.ok.us. Thank you, Lisa Nelson Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education Field Coordinator for Student Preparation 580.614.1328 lnelson at osrhe.edu www.okhighered.org/epas ?Give a little love to a child, and you get a great deal back.? John Ruskin Lisa can you please pass the following question along to other counselors. I am wondering how most schools do this. For your kids that are Concurrent students do you just plug in their grade on the transcript or do you put the class on their schedule in the school system? We use ISIS and didn't know if you put it as a class in LEA or if you just put in on Transcript when you get the grades? Thank you, -- Sandra Carter Maysville High School 600 1st Street Maysville, OK 73057 (405) 867-4410 Fax: (405) 867-1240 scarter at maysville.k12.ok.us ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Counselors mailing list Counselors at lists.onenet.net http://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jreese at nobleps.com Sun Oct 13 19:52:20 2013 From: jreese at nobleps.com (Julie Reese) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 00:52:20 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] Question for discussion board In-Reply-To: <8DD76B7FB621AC409D7CE57771C370732BA308B1@Drake.osrhe.edu> References: <8DD76B7FB621AC409D7CE57771C370732BA308B1@Drake.osrhe.edu> Message-ID: <8E1E28A1-AA88-4484-850B-7E01358E9693@nobleps.com> We divide by grade levels. 9th/10th and 11th/12th. One does EOI testing and the other does AP, ACT. Julie Reese Noble High School Sent from my iPad On Oct 13, 2013, at 7:36 PM, "Nelson, Lisa" > wrote: Question: How does your school counselors divide duties if you have 2 counselors? I was wondering.....we are looking at various ways that would be most beneficial to our students. Thank you for your help! Kacee Poteet Bristow High School Lisa Nelson Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education Field Coordinator for Student Preparation 580.614.1328 lnelson at osrhe.edu www.okhighered.org/epas "Give a little love to a child, and you get a great deal back." John Ruskin _______________________________________________ Counselors mailing list Counselors at lists.onenet.net http://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lnelson at osrhe.edu Mon Oct 14 12:53:28 2013 From: lnelson at osrhe.edu (Nelson, Lisa) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 17:53:28 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] FW: Question for discussion board Message-ID: <8DD76B7FB621AC409D7CE57771C370732BA3213C@Drake.osrhe.edu> Thank you Counselors for your responses! Below in red are responses regarding Kacee's question: I will make this more confusing than it is, if I try to explain it, in an email. Feel free to call me if you want to. Blake Crawford crawfordb at pryor.k12.ok.us We divide by alphabet. That way we continue to keep the student throughout the time that they are in our building. We don't like having a child change counselors every time they change grades. Everything else we work together on. Debbie Woods Wagoner Middle School 918-485-9541 ext. 2509 dwoods at wagonerps.org I would love to hear more on this topic--we are trying to make some decisions at my school as well. Michael White from Stillwater, I know that you guys each take a grade and walk with them the whole way through high school. Can you chime in as to the advantages of this method? Carol Spears Regent High School cspears at rpsok.org Ours is divided by Native American and All Others. 9-12 grades Judy Moore JMoore at hilldaleps.org Guymon- 800 students Titles of 9th/10th and 11th/12th but take whatever shows up at the door. 9/10 takes IEPs and Food Pantry 11/12 used to have EOIs until district coordinator was hired!!! Now has scholarships, GT, GEAR UP coordinator, and EOI test administrator during testing weeks. Dana Martin We divide students by 9/10 and 11/12. We also divide duties. Neither of us do EOI testing. Each have various duties in the counseling department. Let me know if you want specifics. Karee Patterson Kingfisher High School kpatterson at kingfisher.k12.ok.us We divide by grade levels. 9th/10th and 11th/12th. One does EOI testing and the other does AP, ACT. Julie Reese Noble High School jreese at nobleps.com Sent from my iPad On Oct 13, 2013, at 7:36 PM, "Nelson, Lisa" > wrote: Question: How does your school counselors divide duties if you have 2 counselors? I was wondering.....we are looking at various ways that would be most beneficial to our students. Thank you for your help! Kacee Poteet Bristow High School Lisa Nelson Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education Field Coordinator for Student Preparation 580.614.1328 lnelson at osrhe.edu www.okhighered.org/epas "Give a little love to a child, and you get a great deal back." John Ruskin _______________________________________________ Counselors mailing list Counselors at lists.onenet.net http://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors _______________________________________________ Counselors mailing list Counselors at lists.onenet.net http://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lnelson at osrhe.edu Tue Oct 15 10:43:46 2013 From: lnelson at osrhe.edu (Nelson, Lisa) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 15:43:46 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] FW: Counselor Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8DD76B7FB621AC409D7CE57771C370732BA32C8B@Drake.osrhe.edu> Counselors, Please respond to this email to answer Shyanne's question. Thank you! Lisa Nelson Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education Field Coordinator for Student Preparation 580.614.1328 lnelson at osrhe.edu www.okhighered.org/epas "Give a little love to a child, and you get a great deal back." John Ruskin Counselors, if DHS comes to see one of your students during school, how do you handle this? Do you as the counselor sit in with your student and DHS or do you allow the student to meet alone with DHS? I feel like I am suppose to be an advocate for my students and I feel like I am letting them down if I am not with them. Any suggestions or information would be very helpful! Thank you! Shyanne Gatrost Pawnee High School Counselor 918-762-3676 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lnelson at osrhe.edu Tue Oct 15 11:11:55 2013 From: lnelson at osrhe.edu (Nelson, Lisa) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 16:11:55 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] FW: Counselor Question re: DHS Message-ID: <8DD76B7FB621AC409D7CE57771C370732BA32D7F@Drake.osrhe.edu> Question: Counselors, if DHS comes to see one of your students during school, how do you handle this? Do you as the counselor sit in with your student and DHS or do you allow the student to meet alone with DHS? I feel like I am supposed to be an advocate for my students and I feel like I am letting them down if I am not with them. Any suggestions or information would be very helpful! Thank you! Shyanne Gatrost Pawnee High School Counselor 918-762-3676 Counselor Responses: I ask the student. If they want me in there, I sit. If they are ok alone, I let them go alone. The tricky part is if you are the one who called DHS. If that is the case, I stay out. Staci Wayant Swayant at putnamcityschools.org We sit in on the meeting. I think it is probably our district's policy. There is a form that DHS has to complete and we keep it in our files. I don't interject or ask any questions during their meeting. A point to be aware of, if a school employee is present in the meeting, he or she can be called as a witness if a case goes to court. Annette Long, LPC Brink Junior High 7th & 8th Grade Counselor A-G 405-735-4552 fax 405-692-0170 annettelong at mooreschools.com I typically set in on those meetings. I have had one particular case that was extremely confidential and court related. That particular DHS worker asked me not to be there, so I abided by that. I would have had to testify in court, so I opted out. The student wanted me to be in the room, but I explained to her the legal ramifications involved. I did however tell her that I would be with her if she needed me to be. Carren Cantrell ccantrell at dale.k12.ok.us I do not sit in. As a previous therapist with foster kids I can say that for the investigation it is better for the student and DHS to meet privately. If you are in the office to the parents, or whoever the allegation is against, might say that you talked the student into saying things and then sat there after to make sure they stuck with the story. It is better to allow them there space and then check with the student after to see how they are feeling and to stay away from asking directly about the investigation. Mrs. Maurisa Afante Counselor - 10th - 12th B-E-F-G-J-K-U Moore High School (405) 735-4718 I stay, unless the student requests otherwise. The student should be able to make that decision. Alicia Brierton abrierton at lawtonps.org I always sat in there! Cheri Gastineau cgastineau at westtech.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lnelson at osrhe.edu Tue Oct 15 13:02:44 2013 From: lnelson at osrhe.edu (Nelson, Lisa) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 18:02:44 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] FW: FW: Counselor Question re: DHS In-Reply-To: References: <8DD76B7FB621AC409D7CE57771C370732BA32D7F@Drake.osrhe.edu> Message-ID: <8DD76B7FB621AC409D7CE57771C370732BA33000@Drake.osrhe.edu> More comments: Our school lawyers have told us that once DHS is on site, we are to excuse ourselves due to the legal issues involved. . If a student requests our presence, we can make the judgement call knowing we & our records can then be subpenaed. I have sat in on - but did not speak- in only one (in 8 years) when I felt the DHS worker was not handling the situation well & wanted to make sure the student felt safe. Angela Schottel aschottel at bixbyps.org I normally sit in unless not asked to by DHS and/or the child's parents. If it is a matter involving the police, then either my superintendent or principal sit in instead of me. Ed Poley epoley at tyrone.k12.ok.us If we can be, we will. I think it is a case by case basis. Some situations do not require us to be present, and others, we do most of the talking. Crawford, Blake crawfordb at pryor.k12.ok.us Question: Counselors, if DHS comes to see one of your students during school, how do you handle this? Do you as the counselor sit in with your student and DHS or do you allow the student to meet alone with DHS? I feel like I am supposed to be an advocate for my students and I feel like I am letting them down if I am not with them. Any suggestions or information would be very helpful! Thank you! Shyanne Gatrost Pawnee High School Counselor 918-762-3676 Counselor Responses: I ask the student. If they want me in there, I sit. If they are ok alone, I let them go alone. The tricky part is if you are the one who called DHS. If that is the case, I stay out. Staci Wayant Swayant at putnamcityschools.org We sit in on the meeting. I think it is probably our district's policy. There is a form that DHS has to complete and we keep it in our files. I don't interject or ask any questions during their meeting. A point to be aware of, if a school employee is present in the meeting, he or she can be called as a witness if a case goes to court. Annette Long, LPC Brink Junior High 7th & 8th Grade Counselor A-G 405-735-4552 fax 405-692-0170 annettelong at mooreschools.com I typically set in on those meetings. I have had one particular case that was extremely confidential and court related. That particular DHS worker asked me not to be there, so I abided by that. I would have had to testify in court, so I opted out. The student wanted me to be in the room, but I explained to her the legal ramifications involved. I did however tell her that I would be with her if she needed me to be. Carren Cantrell ccantrell at dale.k12.ok.us I do not sit in. As a previous therapist with foster kids I can say that for the investigation it is better for the student and DHS to meet privately. If you are in the office to the parents, or whoever the allegation is against, might say that you talked the student into saying things and then sat there after to make sure they stuck with the story. It is better to allow them there space and then check with the student after to see how they are feeling and to stay away from asking directly about the investigation. Mrs. Maurisa Afante Counselor - 10th - 12th B-E-F-G-J-K-U Moore High School (405) 735-4718 I stay, unless the student requests otherwise. The student should be able to make that decision. Alicia Brierton abrierton at lawtonps.org I always sat in there! Cheri Gastineau cgastineau at westtech.edu _______________________________________________ Counselors mailing list Counselors at lists.onenet.net http://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors -- Angela Schottel Counselor, R-Z Bixby High School (918)366-2238 Bixby Public Schools is an equal opportunity educational institution. This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you receive this message in error, you are hereby notified that Bixby Public Schools does not consent to any reading, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the transmitted information. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lnelson at osrhe.edu Tue Oct 15 15:31:30 2013 From: lnelson at osrhe.edu (Nelson, Lisa) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 20:31:30 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] FW: FW: FW: Counselor Question re: DHS In-Reply-To: References: <8DD76B7FB621AC409D7CE57771C370732BA32D7F@Drake.osrhe.edu> <8DD76B7FB621AC409D7CE57771C370732BA33000@Drake.osrhe.edu> Message-ID: <8DD76B7FB621AC409D7CE57771C370732BA332B2@Drake.osrhe.edu> Three new comments: 1. Check district policy. If no policy, then check standard expected practice. 2. I agree whole-heartedly with Angela Schottel and Maurisa Afante for reasons they stated. (Too often we muddle the waters while we are attempting to do good.) If a DHS worker is trained correctly, they need to be the one working the investigation and they have been cleared by the state to do so. 3. We do not sit in on the meetings here unless specifically asked but we do follow up afterwards. In the 14 years as a high school counselor, I've only sat in on two: one because the kid could not remain calm without a trusted face and the other because DHS asked me to stay and "help." She was inadequately prepared and did not know how to ask open-ended questions to let the child speak freely. She had the habit of play 20-questions with a 'yes' or 'no' answer. Needless to say, by report to her supervisor resulted in a job change. 4. Don't be discouraged nor encouraged to behave differently by the "threat" of being subpoenaed to appear in court or relinquish records. I have had this happen in 4 different cases with DHS or child-abuse situations and none of them were because I was present in the initial DHS intake. Being subpoenaed just comes with the territory of advocating for kids. 5. Be encouraged by the response of your peers in this thread. Dana Martin 11th & 12th Guymon (580)338-4350 dana.martin at guymontigers.com We at Owasso High School do not sit in. Becky Copeland Becky.Copeland at owasso.k12.ok.us I don't usually stay unless the student wants me to or feels especially anxious about the meeting. I do, however, ask the DHS worker to make sure I know any information that could affect the student at school. Amy Broadbent Kingfisher MS Counselor Amy Broadbent abroadbent at kingfisher.k12.ok.us Our school lawyers have told us that once DHS is on site, we are to excuse ourselves due to the legal issues involved. . If a student requests our presence, we can make the judgement call knowing we & our records can then be subpenaed. I have sat in on - but did not speak- in only one (in 8 years) when I felt the DHS worker was not handling the situation well & wanted to make sure the student felt safe. Angela Schottel aschottel at bixbyps.org I normally sit in unless not asked to by DHS and/or the child's parents. If it is a matter involving the police, then either my superintendent or principal sit in instead of me. Ed Poley epoley at tyrone.k12.ok.us If we can be, we will. I think it is a case by case basis. Some situations do not require us to be present, and others, we do most of the talking. Crawford, Blake crawfordb at pryor.k12.ok.us Question: Counselors, if DHS comes to see one of your students during school, how do you handle this? Do you as the counselor sit in with your student and DHS or do you allow the student to meet alone with DHS? I feel like I am supposed to be an advocate for my students and I feel like I am letting them down if I am not with them. Any suggestions or information would be very helpful! Thank you! Shyanne Gatrost Pawnee High School Counselor shyanne.gatrost at pawnee.k12.ok.us 918-762-3676 Counselor Responses: I ask the student. If they want me in there, I sit. If they are ok alone, I let them go alone. The tricky part is if you are the one who called DHS. If that is the case, I stay out. Staci Wayant Swayant at putnamcityschools.org We sit in on the meeting. I think it is probably our district's policy. There is a form that DHS has to complete and we keep it in our files. I don't interject or ask any questions during their meeting. A point to be aware of, if a school employee is present in the meeting, he or she can be called as a witness if a case goes to court. Annette Long, LPC Brink Junior High 7th & 8th Grade Counselor A-G 405-735-4552 fax 405-692-0170 annettelong at mooreschools.com I typically set in on those meetings. I have had one particular case that was extremely confidential and court related. That particular DHS worker asked me not to be there, so I abided by that. I would have had to testify in court, so I opted out. The student wanted me to be in the room, but I explained to her the legal ramifications involved. I did however tell her that I would be with her if she needed me to be. Carren Cantrell ccantrell at dale.k12.ok.us I do not sit in. As a previous therapist with foster kids I can say that for the investigation it is better for the student and DHS to meet privately. If you are in the office to the parents, or whoever the allegation is against, might say that you talked the student into saying things and then sat there after to make sure they stuck with the story. It is better to allow them there space and then check with the student after to see how they are feeling and to stay away from asking directly about the investigation. Mrs. Maurisa Afante Counselor - 10th - 12th B-E-F-G-J-K-U Moore High School (405) 735-4718 I stay, unless the student requests otherwise. The student should be able to make that decision. Alicia Brierton abrierton at lawtonps.org I always sat in there! Cheri Gastineau cgastineau at westtech.edu _______________________________________________ Counselors mailing list Counselors at lists.onenet.net http://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors -- Angela Schottel Counselor, R-Z Bixby High School (918)366-2238 Bixby Public Schools is an equal opportunity educational institution. This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you receive this message in error, you are hereby notified that Bixby Public Schools does not consent to any reading, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message. 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