From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr  2 14:23:46 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 14:23:46 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM
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Don't get me started!!!!! BUT..


We have parents wanting to opt out of both OCCT and OCCRA
I questioned why an item tryout or field tests should effect the report
card...misleading answers ........
 What the heck!!!

 The question about the 95% and the OCCRA tests
As follows with the answer from Joyce Defur!!



Good morning!
Could you clarify something for me!

The Item Tryout tests given by Measured Progress.  We are to test 95% of
our students--do our students need to do a makeup test if they aren't here?
  and how do these item tryout tests effect our school report card?
Thank you!

Joyce's answer:


By law, there is no distinction made between item tryouts and regular
operational testing. Both are required under the same law since operational
testing is dependent upon valid piloting, and both are subject to the same
rules and penalties which is overseen and governed by the State Board.
Whether this rule will be enforced or whether the State Board would
determine for the penalty to go against a school's accreditation report
would be for this board to determine. You should make every effort to test
all possible students.

Joyce


Rule states that schools must have tested at least 95% and if they don't,
 their school letter grade would be lowered by one...if 90 % or less, it is
automatic F

SO IF we don't have 90% we get an "F" on an ITEM TRYOUT!!!   for our
school, that is 9--yes NINE students opting out.....

HAVE  I COMPLETELY MISUNDERSTOOD?   WHERE DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE.

I too love my job---working with students and parents---but this testing
takes AWAY from our real purpose and that is teaching/serving our students.

Thanks for the opportunity to RANT!!!





On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:38 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

>  I'm in for a RANT about testing.
>
>
>
> *From:* counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:
> counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] *On Behalf Of *OSRHE EPAS PK-12
> Counselor Discussion Board
> *Sent:* Friday, March 28, 2014 2:27 PM
> *To:* counselors at lists.onenet.net
> *Subject:* [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us
> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
> Date: 03/28/14 12:06 PM
> Subject: Re[2]: [Counselors] QUESTION: OAM
>
> Does anyone want to join me on a RANT at the rally about 3-4 testing
> companies next year and all the work of the upcoming tryout tests? Too much
> time and energy is being spent in Oklahoma on poorly designed tests that
> make an A-F report card.
>  ------------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <
> counselors at lists.onenet.net>
> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
> Date: 03/28/14 10:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [Counselors] QUESTION: OAM
>
> Calling all rural Oklahoma high schools, we are currently trying to
> incorporate Spanish as a Foreighn Language into our class schedule.
> However, we have always used the Computer Language class as out FL. We do
> not have the funding necessary for either online curriculum or hiring
> another teacher. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Have a great day.
> Laura O'Hara, MAMFT
> DTC/School Counselor
> Cashion Public Schools
>
> *On Fri 28/03/14 8:26 AM , OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
> counselors at lists.onenet.net <counselors at lists.onenet.net> sent: *
>
>
>
>   What are you using for your OAM (Other Academic Measure)?
>
>   Thank you,  Alicia
>
>
>
>
>
>   *Alicia Brierton *
>
>   *Guidance Counselor *
>
>   *MacArthur High School *
>
>   *Office: 580 355 5230 Ext. 459 <580%20355%205230%20Ext.%20459> *
>
>   *Fax: 580 585 6434 <580%20585%206434> *
>
>   *"For I know the plans I have for you...to give you a future full of
> hope." *
>
>
>
>
>
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> United in education,
>
> Patricia Marlow
>
> Calvin Public School
>
> P.O. Box 127
>
> 229 Third Street
>
> Calvin, OK 74531
>
> 405-645-2411 X 1003
>
> pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us
>
> FAX: 405-645-1056
>
>
>
> "Kind words can be short and easy to speak, but their echoes are truly
> endless." Mother Teresa
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> United in education,
>
> Patricia Marlow
>
> Calvin Public School
>
> P.O. Box 127
>
> 229 Third Street
>
> Calvin, OK 74531
>
> 405-645-2411 X 1003
>
> pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us
>
> FAX: 405-645-1056
>
>
>
> "Kind words can be short and easy to speak, but their echoes are truly
> endless." Mother Teresa
>
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-- 
*Linda Rauh*
*School Counselor*
*Canton Public Schools*
*PO Box 639*
*Canton, OK  73724*
*580-886-2256  Ext # 3*
rauhl at canton.k12.ok.us
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr  2 16:25:20 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 21:25:20 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] FW: Special Education Teacher
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Watonga Elementary is looking for a Special Education teacher, if anyone knows someone who might be interested to please let them know they can contact the principal, Jeanne Karns at 580-623-5248.

Thank you!

Mrs. Dru Svitak, Elementary Counselor & District Test Coordinator
Watonga Elementary School
900 North Leach, P.O. Box 640
Watonga, Oklahoma 73772
Main: (580) 623-5248
Fax: (580) 623-5238

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr  2 21:37:59 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 02:37:59 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??
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I would like to compare what I am currently making to be DTC with some of you guys out there.  Do you get a base salary % increase, stipend, time sheet, or is it just part of your regular salary duties?
Also do you teach a class and get extra pay?

Thank you!



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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr  2 19:33:23 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 19:33:23 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM
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Thank you all for sharing and reinforcing that I am not alone in seeing this ridiculousness for what it is.  Also good to know that I am not going not the only one feeling the pressure balancing the testing madness with my real school counselor role... and and questioning an Alzheimer's diagnosis....    Every year, past several (post ace) years I relive a tornado like existence from March 1 through May (and periods of this at other time during the year as well).  At least I know I'm not alone:).

Thank you all for sharing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 31, 2014, at 11:15 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
> 
> I hope that those who were allowed to attend the state rally today can really send the message of overload.  I do not think that most teachers really understand the scope of our positions fully.  I am so glad we have this counselor forum to rant to each other.  It is always uplifting to know that we are all in the same boat. 
>  
> From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 10:43 AM
> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
> Subject: Re: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM
>  
> Yes, it is though my mind and body have just gone into overload and then into shut down. It's hard to know where to start, or do I say start over? 
>  
> On 03/31/14, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
> Ditto.  I am not only test coordinator, but I also teach alternative all day, am the school counselor, website director, ISIS coordinator and multiple other jobs.  I am tired of all of this testing setup.  I am beginning to think that I am getting Alzheimer?s because I can?t keep up with anything anymore.  I was working until 8 or 9 every night but I refuse to do it anymore.  Please take testing away from us.  I used to love the testing aspect of my job, but now I hate to get emails, especially when I have to unload content that I have just loaded.  Oh, I am also the technology coordinator.  Please let us get through this testing season because summer is just right around the corner.
>  
> From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 8:14 AM
> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
> Subject: Re: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM
>  
> Yes it is.  I am losing my mind.  Especially with the item try outs.  This is crazy!
>  
> 
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 6:32 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
> Rant, I'm drowning in tests......endless emails, fall retest window, winter\trimester, writing, spring retest, I do 3-12 labeling, uploads, 2TT, Scheduling, finding monitors, remediation........ Along with all my endless duties!  Don't get me wrong I do love my job and my students but testing is out of control!
> 
> On Mar 28, 2014 4:16 PM, "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
> Well, when I did the Webinar and they didn't know what a Portfolio was, I lost all faith.  And they say the Writing test can't be read aloud to IEP students---not sure they know what they're talking about.  And those materials come during OCCT testing.  How many people do they think are building test coordinators because I can only stretch so far.  Evidently they have no idea how long it takes to box tests up and mail back.  After a certain point, our schedule is filled with end of year activities that we cannot all of a sudden cancel or reschedule.  Yes!  Rant, Rant, Rant!  Gail Fine, Sallisaw
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <counselors at lists.onenet.net>
> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
> Date: 03/28/14 02:27 PM
> Subject: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM
> 
>  
>  
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us 
> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net 
> Date: 03/28/14 12:06 PM 
> Subject: Re[2]: [Counselors] QUESTION: OAM
> 
> Does anyone want to join me on a RANT at the rally about 3-4 testing companies next year and all the work of the upcoming tryout tests? Too much time and energy is being spent in Oklahoma on poorly designed tests that make an A-F report card.
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <counselors at lists.onenet.net> 
> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net 
> Date: 03/28/14 10:43 AM 
> Subject: Re: [Counselors] QUESTION: OAM
> 
> Calling all rural Oklahoma high schools, we are currently trying to incorporate Spanish as a Foreighn Language into our class schedule. However, we have always used the Computer Language class as out FL. We do not have the funding necessary for either online curriculum or hiring another teacher. Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Have a great day. 
> Laura O'Hara, MAMFT 
> DTC/School Counselor 
> Cashion Public Schools 
> 
> On Fri 28/03/14 8:26 AM , OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board counselors at lists.onenet.net sent:
> 
>  
>   What are you using for your OAM (Other Academic Measure)? 
>   Thank you,  Alicia 
>     
>     
>   Alicia Brierton  
>   Guidance Counselor  
>   MacArthur High School  
>   Office: 580 355 5230 Ext. 459  
>   Fax: 580 585 6434  
>   "For I know the plans I have for you?to give you a future full of hope."  
>  
>  
> _______________________________________________ 
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> 
>  
> United in education, 
> 
> Patricia Marlow 
> 
> Calvin Public School 
> 
> P.O. Box 127 
> 
> 229 Third Street 
> 
> Calvin, OK 74531 
> 
> 405-645-2411 X 1003 
> 
> pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us  
> 
> FAX: 405-645-1056
> 
>  
> 
> "Kind words can be short and easy to speak, but their echoes are truly endless." Mother Teresa
> 
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
>  
> United in education, 
> 
> Patricia Marlow 
> 
> Calvin Public School 
> 
> P.O. Box 127 
> 
> 229 Third Street 
> 
> Calvin, OK 74531 
> 
> 405-645-2411 X 1003 
> 
> pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us  
> 
> FAX: 405-645-1056
> 
>  
> 
> "Kind words can be short and easy to speak, but their echoes are truly endless." Mother Teresa
> 
>  
>  
> _______________________________________________
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> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
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> 
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> 
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>  
> --
> Karen M. Nickell
> Guidance Counselor
> Forgan Public School
> 504 W. Main
> Forgan, OK  73938
> 580-487-3366
> 508-487-3368 (fax)
>  
> 
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> --
> Ginger Cummins
> Seminole Middle School Counselor
> gcummins at sps.k12.ok.us
> Phone 405.382.5065
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr  2 22:29:12 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 22:29:12 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM
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Oh your not alone!!! I think I've been in a massive hurricane since
November!!  I do all testing 3-12 and scheduling of all 5-12 testing w/
trying to find monitors along with classroom coverage!  I love CTB emails
(can't keep up with them). I also work with our technology person trying to
keep up to date on all the changes.  We do not have a server, so all
changes must be done to each computer.........I don't know why I'm telling
you all this other than to rant all this whole doing all my other
duties!!!!!!!  As I sit here working as we chat
On Apr 2, 2014 10:20 PM, "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <
counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> Thank you all for sharing and reinforcing that I am not alone in seeing
> this ridiculousness for what it is.  Also good to know that I am not going
> not the only one feeling the pressure balancing the testing madness with my
> real school counselor role... and and questioning an Alzheimer's
> diagnosis....    Every year, past several (post ace) years I relive a
> tornado like existence from March 1 through May (and periods of this at
> other time during the year as well).  At least I know I'm not alone:).
>
> Thank you all for sharing.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 31, 2014, at 11:15 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <
> counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
>  I hope that those who were allowed to attend the state rally today can
> really send the message of overload.  I do not think that most teachers
> really understand the scope of our positions fully.  I am so glad we have
> this counselor forum to rant to each other.  It is always uplifting to know
> that we are all in the same boat.
>
>
>
> *From:* counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [
> mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net<counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net>]
> *On Behalf Of *OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
> *Sent:* Monday, March 31, 2014 10:43 AM
> *To:* counselors at lists.onenet.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM
>
>
>
> Yes, it is though my mind and body have just gone into overload and then
> into shut down. It's hard to know where to start, or do I say start over?
>
>
>
> On 03/31/14, *OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board *<
> counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
> Ditto.  I am not only test coordinator, but I also teach alternative all
> day, am the school counselor, website director, ISIS coordinator and
> multiple other jobs.  I am tired of all of this testing setup.  I am
> beginning to think that I am getting Alzheimer's because I can't keep up
> with anything anymore.  I was working until 8 or 9 every night but I refuse
> to do it anymore.  Please take testing away from us.  I used to love the
> testing aspect of my job, but now I hate to get emails, especially when I
> have to unload content that I have just loaded.  Oh, I am also the
> technology coordinator.  Please let us get through this testing season
> because summer is just right around the corner.
>
>
>
> *From:* counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [
> mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net<counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net>]
> *On Behalf Of *OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
> *Sent:* Monday, March 31, 2014 8:14 AM
> *To:* counselors at lists.onenet.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM
>
>
>
> Yes it is.  I am losing my mind.  Especially with the item try outs.  This
> is crazy!
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 6:32 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
> Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
> Rant, I'm drowning in tests......endless emails, fall retest window,
> winter\trimester, writing, spring retest, I do 3-12 labeling, uploads, 2TT,
> Scheduling, finding monitors, remediation........ Along with all my endless
> duties!  Don't get me wrong I do love my job and my students but testing is
> out of control!
>
> On Mar 28, 2014 4:16 PM, "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <
> counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
> Well, when I did the Webinar and they didn't know what a Portfolio was, I
> lost all faith.  And they say the Writing test can't be read aloud to IEP
> students---not sure they know what they're talking about.  And those
> materials come during OCCT testing.  How many people do they think are
> building test coordinators because I can only stretch so far.  Evidently
> they have no idea how long it takes to box tests up and mail back.  After a
> certain point, our schedule is filled with end of year activities that we
> cannot all of a sudden cancel or reschedule.  Yes!  Rant, Rant, Rant!  Gail
> Fine, Sallisaw
>  ------------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <
> counselors at lists.onenet.net>
> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
> Date: 03/28/14 02:27 PM
> Subject: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us
> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
> Date: 03/28/14 12:06 PM
> Subject: Re[2]: [Counselors] QUESTION: OAM
>
> Does anyone want to join me on a RANT at the rally about 3-4 testing
> companies next year and all the work of the upcoming tryout tests? Too much
> time and energy is being spent in Oklahoma on poorly designed tests that
> make an A-F report card.
>  ------------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <
> counselors at lists.onenet.net>
> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
> Date: 03/28/14 10:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [Counselors] QUESTION: OAM
>
> Calling all rural Oklahoma high schools, we are currently trying to
> incorporate Spanish as a Foreighn Language into our class schedule.
> However, we have always used the Computer Language class as out FL. We do
> not have the funding necessary for either online curriculum or hiring
> another teacher. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Have a great day.
> Laura O'Hara, MAMFT
> DTC/School Counselor
> Cashion Public Schools
>
> *On Fri 28/03/14 8:26 AM , OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
> counselors at lists.onenet.net <counselors at lists.onenet.net> sent: *
>
>
>
>   What are you using for your OAM (Other Academic Measure)?
>
>   Thank you,  Alicia
>
>
>
>
>
>   *Alicia Brierton *
>
>   *Guidance Counselor *
>
>   *MacArthur High School *
>
>   *Office: 580 355 5230 Ext. 459 <580%20355%205230%20Ext.%20459> *
>
>   *Fax: 580 585 6434 <580%20585%206434> *
>
>   *"For I know the plans I have for you...to give you a future full of
> hope." *
>
>
>
>
>
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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 07:28:50 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??
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No I do not get an increase for anything I do except student information and
website and it is very minimal.  I even have to teach all day on top of my
counselor duties and only get the 1000 for  having a master's. I am consumed
right now with the technology on top of testing because I am also the
technology coordinator.  I am not sure what school you are from but most
likely all of us are doing multiple jobs with little or no compensation.

 

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I would like to compare what I am currently making to be DTC with some of
you guys out there.  Do you get a base salary % increase, stipend, time
sheet, or is it just part of your regular salary duties?

Also do you teach a class and get extra pay?

 

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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 08:12:04 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??
Message-ID: <mailman.6211.1396617946.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

 

I get the base salary for a counselor at a Masters level. I get a small
increase for the duties I do at school. 

At other schools that I have worked do the above plus an increase to
salary. 

I have heard others state that they do not even get an increase. I do not
teach here at this school, but I have in the past. 

My duties include: 

School Counselor, GT Coordinator, 504 Coordinator, Academic Coach, DTC 

I hope this helps.

 Have a great day. 
 Laura O'Hara, MAMFT 
 DTC/School Counselor 
 Cashion Public Schools 

 On Wed 02/04/14 9:37 PM , OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
counselors at lists.onenet.net sent:

? 

I would like to compare what I am currently making to be DTC with some of
you guys out there.? Do you get a base salary % increase, stipend, time
sheet, or?is it just part of your regular salary duties? 

Also do you teach a class and get extra pay? 

? 

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Apr  3 08:36:09 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 08:36:09 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??
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I get what they call the counseling stipend on top of the base salary and
that is all I get for all the testing prep.  I am not the DTC though- I am
just my BTC (but I do everything and then hand it over to my testing
administer).  I do teach a counseling class all day for two day every other
week (a new class every 30 minutes).  I have only 3rd & 4th grade in my
school which is about 435 students. Guymon Public Schools do pay an extra
$2000 above state base salary.

Kay Gilchrist
Academy Elementary Counselor
Guymon Public Schools
Guymon, OK


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:37 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

>
>
> I would like to compare what I am currently making to be DTC with some of
> you guys out there.  Do you get a base salary % increase, stipend, time
> sheet, or is it just part of your regular salary duties?
>
> Also do you teach a class and get extra pay?
>
>
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
>
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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 08:42:51 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM
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I just found out yesterday that we are not scheduled to take the 7th grade
online Geography test.  CTB tells me that only 75 schools in Oklahoma were
"selected" to take this test.
Have any of you received any documentation on this?  I have a call out to
SDE for confirmation.  I would also like a list of who the 75 are.
Also..  What great timing for CTB to be having technical issues on their
website  and "scheduled maintenance"  this weekend when the testing window
opens next Thursday!!   I really feel like we just need to go on a testing
strike until they can get their act together!!!!!      Sooooo frustrating
on all levels..


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:33 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> Thank you all for sharing and reinforcing that I am not alone in seeing
> this ridiculousness for what it is.  Also good to know that I am not going
> not the only one feeling the pressure balancing the testing madness with my
> real school counselor role... and and questioning an Alzheimer's
> diagnosis....    Every year, past several (post ace) years I relive a
> tornado like existence from March 1 through May (and periods of this at
> other time during the year as well).  At least I know I'm not alone:).
>
> Thank you all for sharing.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 31, 2014, at 11:15 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <
> counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
>  I hope that those who were allowed to attend the state rally today can
> really send the message of overload.  I do not think that most teachers
> really understand the scope of our positions fully.  I am so glad we have
> this counselor forum to rant to each other.  It is always uplifting to know
> that we are all in the same boat.
>
>
>
> *From:* counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [
> mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net<counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net>]
> *On Behalf Of *OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
> *Sent:* Monday, March 31, 2014 10:43 AM
> *To:* counselors at lists.onenet.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM
>
>
>
> Yes, it is though my mind and body have just gone into overload and then
> into shut down. It's hard to know where to start, or do I say start over?
>
>
>
> On 03/31/14, *OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board *<
> counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
> Ditto.  I am not only test coordinator, but I also teach alternative all
> day, am the school counselor, website director, ISIS coordinator and
> multiple other jobs.  I am tired of all of this testing setup.  I am
> beginning to think that I am getting Alzheimer's because I can't keep up
> with anything anymore.  I was working until 8 or 9 every night but I refuse
> to do it anymore.  Please take testing away from us.  I used to love the
> testing aspect of my job, but now I hate to get emails, especially when I
> have to unload content that I have just loaded.  Oh, I am also the
> technology coordinator.  Please let us get through this testing season
> because summer is just right around the corner.
>
>
>
> *From:* counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [
> mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net<counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net>]
> *On Behalf Of *OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
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> *To:* counselors at lists.onenet.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM
>
>
>
> Yes it is.  I am losing my mind.  Especially with the item try outs.  This
> is crazy!
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 6:32 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
> Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
> Rant, I'm drowning in tests......endless emails, fall retest window,
> winter\trimester, writing, spring retest, I do 3-12 labeling, uploads, 2TT,
> Scheduling, finding monitors, remediation........ Along with all my endless
> duties!  Don't get me wrong I do love my job and my students but testing is
> out of control!
>
> On Mar 28, 2014 4:16 PM, "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <
> counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
> Well, when I did the Webinar and they didn't know what a Portfolio was, I
> lost all faith.  And they say the Writing test can't be read aloud to IEP
> students---not sure they know what they're talking about.  And those
> materials come during OCCT testing.  How many people do they think are
> building test coordinators because I can only stretch so far.  Evidently
> they have no idea how long it takes to box tests up and mail back.  After a
> certain point, our schedule is filled with end of year activities that we
> cannot all of a sudden cancel or reschedule.  Yes!  Rant, Rant, Rant!  Gail
> Fine, Sallisaw
>  ------------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <
> counselors at lists.onenet.net>
> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
> Date: 03/28/14 02:27 PM
> Subject: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us
> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
> Date: 03/28/14 12:06 PM
> Subject: Re[2]: [Counselors] QUESTION: OAM
>
> Does anyone want to join me on a RANT at the rally about 3-4 testing
> companies next year and all the work of the upcoming tryout tests? Too much
> time and energy is being spent in Oklahoma on poorly designed tests that
> make an A-F report card.
>  ------------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <
> counselors at lists.onenet.net>
> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
> Date: 03/28/14 10:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [Counselors] QUESTION: OAM
>
> Calling all rural Oklahoma high schools, we are currently trying to
> incorporate Spanish as a Foreighn Language into our class schedule.
> However, we have always used the Computer Language class as out FL. We do
> not have the funding necessary for either online curriculum or hiring
> another teacher. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Have a great day.
> Laura O'Hara, MAMFT
> DTC/School Counselor
> Cashion Public Schools
>
> *On Fri 28/03/14 8:26 AM , OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
> counselors at lists.onenet.net <counselors at lists.onenet.net> sent: *
>
>
>
>   What are you using for your OAM (Other Academic Measure)?
>
>   Thank you,  Alicia
>
>
>
>
>
>   *Alicia Brierton *
>
>   *Guidance Counselor *
>
>   *MacArthur High School *
>
>   *Office: 580 355 5230 Ext. 459 <580%20355%205230%20Ext.%20459> *
>
>   *Fax: 580 585 6434 <580%20585%206434> *
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>   *"For I know the plans I have for you...to give you a future full of
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>
> Patricia Marlow
>
> Calvin Public School
>
> P.O. Box 127
>
> 229 Third Street
>
> Calvin, OK 74531
>
> 405-645-2411 X 1003
>
> pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us
>
> FAX: 405-645-1056
>
>
>
> "Kind words can be short and easy to speak, but their echoes are truly
> endless." Mother Teresa
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> United in education,
>
> Patricia Marlow
>
> Calvin Public School
>
> P.O. Box 127
>
> 229 Third Street
>
> Calvin, OK 74531
>
> 405-645-2411 X 1003
>
> pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us
>
> FAX: 405-645-1056
>
>
>
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> endless." Mother Teresa
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>
> Guidance Counselor
>
> Forgan Public School
>
> 504 W. Main
>
> Forgan, OK  73938
>
> 580-487-3366
>
> 508-487-3368 (fax)
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Apr  3 09:11:42 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 09:11:42 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??
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I receive no extra pay for being DTC.

On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:37 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

>
>
> I would like to compare what I am currently making to be DTC with some of
> you guys out there.  Do you get a base salary % increase, stipend, time
> sheet, or is it just part of your regular salary duties?
>
> Also do you teach a class and get extra pay?
>
>
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Apr  3 12:24:52 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 12:24:52 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??
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I get my base salary plus the (I think) 5% increase.  I am the DTC, BTC, do
all scheduling of 3-12 testing, teach classes and get paid a little extra
for the classes I teach (not much).  

 

Nona Laminack

Big Pasture School Counselor & Assistant Principal 

PO Box 167

Randlett, OK 73562

(580) 281-3276

 <mailto:nlaminack at bigpastureps.k12.ok.us> nlaminack at bigpastureps.k12.ok.us 

 

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I would like to compare what I am currently making to be DTC with some of
you guys out there.  Do you get a base salary % increase, stipend, time
sheet, or is it just part of your regular salary duties?

Also do you teach a class and get extra pay?

 

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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 12:39:37 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??
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At Sallisaw, Counselors get the same pay as other teachers.? We work 10 extra days and get paid for those days.? Special Ed teachers make 5% on top of base pay without putting in extra time.? No extra pay for being test coordinator but the counselors used to rotate being DTC---complained and they finally gave that job to the special ed director and now gave it to technology software director.? 

-----Original Message-----
From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <counselors at lists.onenet.net>
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Date: 04/02/14 09:40 PM
Subject: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??

? 
???
?I would like to compare what I am currently making to be DTC with some of you guys out there.? Do you get a base salary % increase, stipend, time sheet, or?is it just part of your regular salary duties??
?Also do you teach a class and get extra pay??
???
?Thank you!?
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Apr  3 12:57:56 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 17:57:56 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] EOI EXEMPTION LETTER
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Stillwater has a great letter for the EOI exemptions. We are going to add the statement if they are "currently enrolled" in that course.

I know for the A-F report card the exemption will give us one point. (Proficient and Advanced scores are given only one point.)

However, when teachers receive their results, what is the benefit to them? The students exempt would more than likely score advanced, which would help the teacher.

Any help with that? Our teachers are concerned that their top students are not going to test.

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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 11:10:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??
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I do not get a penny extra for being district test coordinator. NOTHING!!!!

On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 9:39 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
  
 
? 
I would like to compare what I am currently making to be DTC with some of you guys out there.? Do you get a base salary % increase, stipend, time sheet, or?is it just part of your regular salary duties? 
Also do you teach a class and get extra pay? 
? 
Thank you! 
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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 08:40:44 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??
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I get an extra stipend for being the DTC, but I am the only testing coordinator for the district, no BTCs here?(PK-12 small school).? My elementary principal helps a little with her 3rd-5th grade testing during the actual testing period. I have a friend that works at a similar size school. She is a math teacher and the BTC for high school, she doesn't get any extra pay.
?
Mary Pierce
Bennington Public Schools

-----Original Message-----
From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <counselors at lists.onenet.net>
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Date: 04/04/14 08:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??

?
I get what they call the counseling stipend on top of the base salary and that is all I get for all the testing prep.  I am not the DTC though- I am just my BTC (but I do everything and then hand it over to my testing administer).  I do teach a counseling class all day for two day every other week (a new class every 30 minutes).  I have only 3rd & 4th grade in my school which is about 435 students. Guymon Public Schools do pay an extra $2000 above state base salary.
?
Kay Gilchrist
Academy Elementary Counselor
Guymon Public Schools
Guymon, OK
?
?

On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:37 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board < counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote: 
?
???
?I would like to compare what I am currently making to be DTC with some of you guys out there.  Do you get a base salary % increase, stipend, time sheet, or is it just part of your regular salary duties??
?Also do you teach a class and get extra pay??
???
?Thank you!?
???
???
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Fri Apr  4 09:05:36 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 09:05:36 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM
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There is nothing in writing explicitly stating only 75 schools are being
tested.  I thought we were all "field testing" Geography again until I
noticed we had no sessions scheduled through CTB.  I called CTB who gave me
the same response.  I went back through all of my OSDE documents and found
an email sent 01/31/14 with multiple updates stating there would be a
"sampling" of students. In the OSDE Test Prep In-Service ppt it states there
will be no operational test, but that is all. 

 

Mrs. Dru Svitak, Elementary Counselor & District Test Coordinator

Watonga Elementary School

900 North Leach, P.O. Box 640

Watonga, Oklahoma 73772

Main: (580) 623-5248

Fax: (580) 623-5238

 

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Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 8:43 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM

 

I just found out yesterday that we are not scheduled to take the 7th grade
online Geography test.  CTB tells me that only 75 schools in Oklahoma were
"selected" to take this test.

Have any of you received any documentation on this?  I have a call out to
SDE for confirmation.  I would also like a list of who the 75 are.
Also..  What great timing for CTB to be having technical issues on their
website  and "scheduled maintenance"  this weekend when the testing window
opens next Thursday!!   I really feel like we just need to go on a testing
strike until they can get their act together!!!!!      Sooooo frustrating on
all levels..  

 

On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:33 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

Thank you all for sharing and reinforcing that I am not alone in seeing this
ridiculousness for what it is.  Also good to know that I am not going not
the only one feeling the pressure balancing the testing madness with my real
school counselor role... and and questioning an Alzheimer's diagnosis....
Every year, past several (post ace) years I relive a tornado like existence
from March 1 through May (and periods of this at other time during the year
as well).  At least I know I'm not alone:).

 

Thank you all for sharing.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 31, 2014, at 11:15 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

I hope that those who were allowed to attend the state rally today can
really send the message of overload.  I do not think that most teachers
really understand the scope of our positions fully.  I am so glad we have
this counselor forum to rant to each other.  It is always uplifting to know
that we are all in the same boat.  

 

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[mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 10:43 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM

 

Yes, it is though my mind and body have just gone into overload and then
into shut down. It's hard to know where to start, or do I say start over? 

 

On 03/31/14, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote: 


Ditto.  I am not only test coordinator, but I also teach alternative all
day, am the school counselor, website director, ISIS coordinator and
multiple other jobs.  I am tired of all of this testing setup.  I am
beginning to think that I am getting Alzheimer's because I can't keep up
with anything anymore.  I was working until 8 or 9 every night but I refuse
to do it anymore.  Please take testing away from us.  I used to love the
testing aspect of my job, but now I hate to get emails, especially when I
have to unload content that I have just loaded.  Oh, I am also the
technology coordinator.  Please let us get through this testing season
because summer is just right around the corner.

 

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Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 8:14 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM

 

Yes it is.  I am losing my mind.  Especially with the item try outs.  This
is crazy!

 

On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 6:32 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

Rant, I'm drowning in tests......endless emails, fall retest window,
winter\trimester, writing, spring retest, I do 3-12 labeling, uploads, 2TT,
Scheduling, finding monitors, remediation........ Along with all my endless
duties!  Don't get me wrong I do love my job and my students but testing is
out of control!

On Mar 28, 2014 4:16 PM, "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board"
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

Well, when I did the Webinar and they didn't know what a Portfolio was, I
lost all faith.  And they say the Writing test can't be read aloud to IEP
students---not sure they know what they're talking about.  And those
materials come during OCCT testing.  How many people do they think are
building test coordinators because I can only stretch so far.  Evidently
they have no idea how long it takes to box tests up and mail back.  After a
certain point, our schedule is filled with end of year activities that we
cannot all of a sudden cancel or reschedule.  Yes!  Rant, Rant, Rant!  Gail
Fine, Sallisaw

  _____  

-----Original Message-----
From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board"
<counselors at lists.onenet.net>
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Date: 03/28/14 02:27 PM
Subject: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM

 

  

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-----Original Message----- 
From: pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us 
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net 
Date: 03/28/14 12:06 PM 
Subject: Re[2]: [Counselors] QUESTION: OAM 

Does anyone want to join me on a RANT at the rally about 3-4 testing
companies next year and all the work of the upcoming tryout tests? Too much
time and energy is being spent in Oklahoma on poorly designed tests that
make an A-F report card. 

  _____  

-----Original Message----- 
From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board"
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> 
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net 
Date: 03/28/14 10:43 AM 
Subject: Re: [Counselors] QUESTION: OAM 

Calling all rural Oklahoma high schools, we are currently trying to
incorporate Spanish as a Foreighn Language into our class schedule. However,
we have always used the Computer Language class as out FL. We do not have
the funding necessary for either online curriculum or hiring another
teacher. Any ideas?

Thanks, 

Have a great day. 
Laura O'Hara, MAMFT 
DTC/School Counselor 
Cashion Public Schools 

On Fri 28/03/14 8:26 AM , OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
counselors at lists.onenet.net sent: 

  

  What are you using for your OAM (Other Academic Measure)? 

  Thank you,  Alicia 

    

    

  Alicia Brierton  

  Guidance Counselor  

  MacArthur High School  

  Office: 580 355 5230 Ext. 459 <tel:580%20355%205230%20Ext.%20459>   

  Fax: 580 585 6434 <tel:580%20585%206434>   

  "For I know the plans I have for you.to give you a future full of hope."  

 

 

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Calvin Public School 

P.O. Box 127 

229 Third Street 

Calvin, OK 74531 

405-645-2411 X 1003 <tel:405-645-2411%20X%201003>  

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FAX: 405-645-1056

 

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Calvin Public School 

P.O. Box 127 

229 Third Street 

Calvin, OK 74531 

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Forgan, OK  73938

580-487-3366

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Fri Apr  4 09:22:19 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 09:22:19 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??
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Ditto for us, multiple jobs.  No extra pay.  Acute stress disorder comes as a bonus.   I see why we are losing so many qualified educators to other professions and other states. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 3, 2014, at 7:28 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
> 
> No I do not get an increase for anything I do except student information and website and it is very minimal.  I even have to teach all day on top of my counselor duties and only get the 1000 for  having a master?s. I am consumed right now with the technology on top of testing because I am also the technology coordinator.  I am not sure what school you are from but most likely all of us are doing multiple jobs with little or no compensation.
>  
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 9:38 PM
> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
> Subject: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??
>  
>  
> I would like to compare what I am currently making to be DTC with some of you guys out there.  Do you get a base salary % increase, stipend, time sheet, or is it just part of your regular salary duties?
> Also do you teach a class and get extra pay?
>  
> Thank you!
>  
>  
>  
> 
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Fri Apr  4 09:29:35 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 09:29:35 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM
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Yes, we were chosen. It was on our OCCRA list if assigned item trouts.

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> On Apr 3, 2014, at 8:42 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
> 
> I just found out yesterday that we are not scheduled to take the 7th grade online Geography test.  CTB tells me that only 75 schools in Oklahoma were "selected" to take this test.
> Have any of you received any documentation on this?  I have a call out to SDE for confirmation.  I would also like a list of who the 75 are.      Also..  What great timing for CTB to be having technical issues on their website  and "scheduled maintenance"  this weekend when the testing window opens next Thursday!!   I really feel like we just need to go on a testing strike until they can get their act together!!!!!      Sooooo frustrating on all levels..  
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:33 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>> Thank you all for sharing and reinforcing that I am not alone in seeing this ridiculousness for what it is.  Also good to know that I am not going not the only one feeling the pressure balancing the testing madness with my real school counselor role... and and questioning an Alzheimer's diagnosis....    Every year, past several (post ace) years I relive a tornado like existence from March 1 through May (and periods of this at other time during the year as well).  At least I know I'm not alone:).
>> 
>> Thank you all for sharing.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2014, at 11:15 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I hope that those who were allowed to attend the state rally today can really send the message of overload.  I do not think that most teachers really understand the scope of our positions fully.  I am so glad we have this counselor forum to rant to each other.  It is always uplifting to know that we are all in the same boat. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 10:43 AM
>>> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Yes, it is though my mind and body have just gone into overload and then into shut down. It's hard to know where to start, or do I say start over? 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On 03/31/14, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ditto.  I am not only test coordinator, but I also teach alternative all day, am the school counselor, website director, ISIS coordinator and multiple other jobs.  I am tired of all of this testing setup.  I am beginning to think that I am getting Alzheimer?s because I can?t keep up with anything anymore.  I was working until 8 or 9 every night but I refuse to do it anymore.  Please take testing away from us.  I used to love the testing aspect of my job, but now I hate to get emails, especially when I have to unload content that I have just loaded.  Oh, I am also the technology coordinator.  Please let us get through this testing season because summer is just right around the corner.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 8:14 AM
>>> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Yes it is.  I am losing my mind.  Especially with the item try outs.  This is crazy!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 6:32 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Rant, I'm drowning in tests......endless emails, fall retest window, winter\trimester, writing, spring retest, I do 3-12 labeling, uploads, 2TT, Scheduling, finding monitors, remediation........ Along with all my endless duties!  Don't get me wrong I do love my job and my students but testing is out of control!
>>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2014 4:16 PM, "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, when I did the Webinar and they didn't know what a Portfolio was, I lost all faith.  And they say the Writing test can't be read aloud to IEP students---not sure they know what they're talking about.  And those materials come during OCCT testing.  How many people do they think are building test coordinators because I can only stretch so far.  Evidently they have no idea how long it takes to box tests up and mail back.  After a certain point, our schedule is filled with end of year activities that we cannot all of a sudden cancel or reschedule.  Yes!  Rant, Rant, Rant!  Gail Fine, Sallisaw
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <counselors at lists.onenet.net>
>>> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
>>> Date: 03/28/14 02:27 PM
>>> Subject: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us 
>>> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net 
>>> Date: 03/28/14 12:06 PM 
>>> Subject: Re[2]: [Counselors] QUESTION: OAM
>>> 
>>> Does anyone want to join me on a RANT at the rally about 3-4 testing companies next year and all the work of the upcoming tryout tests? Too much time and energy is being spent in Oklahoma on poorly designed tests that make an A-F report card.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <counselors at lists.onenet.net> 
>>> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net 
>>> Date: 03/28/14 10:43 AM 
>>> Subject: Re: [Counselors] QUESTION: OAM
>>> 
>>> Calling all rural Oklahoma high schools, we are currently trying to incorporate Spanish as a Foreighn Language into our class schedule. However, we have always used the Computer Language class as out FL. We do not have the funding necessary for either online curriculum or hiring another teacher. Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> Thanks, 
>>> 
>>> Have a great day. 
>>> Laura O'Hara, MAMFT 
>>> DTC/School Counselor 
>>> Cashion Public Schools 
>>> 
>>> On Fri 28/03/14 8:26 AM , OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board counselors at lists.onenet.net sent:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>   What are you using for your OAM (Other Academic Measure)? 
>>> 
>>>   Thank you,  Alicia 
>>> 
>>>     
>>> 
>>>     
>>> 
>>>   Alicia Brierton  
>>> 
>>>   Guidance Counselor  
>>> 
>>>   MacArthur High School  
>>> 
>>>   Office: 580 355 5230 Ext. 459  
>>> 
>>>   Fax: 580 585 6434  
>>> 
>>>   "For I know the plans I have for you?to give you a future full of hope."  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________ 
>>> Counselors mailing list 
>>> Counselors at lists.onenet.net 
>>> http://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
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>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> United in education, 
>>> 
>>> Patricia Marlow 
>>> 
>>> Calvin Public School 
>>> 
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>>> Calvin Public School 
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>>> Calvin, OK 74531 
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>>> 405-645-2411 X 1003 
>>> 
>>> pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us  
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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:42:35 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??
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Go to OKCPS.org and under HR , click on Compensation -Benefits, look for our AFT Collecting Bargaining Agreement, you can look up all teacher, counselor,etc  salaries.  We are paid  about $3,000 more a year than a teacher, we work 196 days and teachers work 181. If you look at our pay scale, look at yrs of experience (2nd column)not the steps.

June Woodall
iOKCPS


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I get my base salary plus the (I think) 5% increase.  I am the DTC, BTC, do all scheduling of 3-12 testing, teach classes and get paid a little extra for the classes I teach (not much).

Nona Laminack
Big Pasture School Counselor & Assistant Principal
PO Box 167
Randlett, OK 73562
(580) 281-3276
nlaminack at bigpastureps.k12.ok.us<mailto:nlaminack at bigpastureps.k12.ok.us>

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I would like to compare what I am currently making to be DTC with some of you guys out there.  Do you get a base salary % increase, stipend, time sheet, or is it just part of your regular salary duties?
Also do you teach a class and get extra pay?

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Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:44:36 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Question re: selected for testing
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I also found out we were not testing Geography when I opened the CTB sessions. We did get an email that we were "chosen" to take the Measured Progress Writing for 7th grade and Reading for 8th grade. My question, when is the best time to tell students that have been working with the Geography mind set,  well, you are going to be taking a writing test instead?


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Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 10:37:33 -0500
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I just looked again at my CTB online and saw that we were not selected for Geography either.? At the same time I noticed that an email was sent out today about testing updates and it is noted on there that only a sampling of schools would be doing the field testing for 7th Geography and then others would be doing either Reading, Math, or Writing through Measured Progress.? I received an email about a month ago stating we were selected for the 7th Writing item tryouts through Measured Progress. 
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Here is a copy of what the email stated:
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?"Grade 7 Geography: Eastern Hemisphere?
A sampling of schools have been chosen for their grade 7 students to take part in Item Tryouts for Geography. This tryout is being handled online by CTB during the regular Spring testing window of April 10-May 7. Schools whose grade 7 students have been chosen for this sample will not take part in the online Math, Reading, or Writing Item Tryouts through Measured Progress."
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Mary Pierce
Bennington Schools

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From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <counselors at lists.onenet.net>
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Date: 04/04/14 08:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM

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I just found out yesterday that we are not scheduled to take?the 7th grade online Geography test.? CTB?tells me that only 75 schools in Oklahoma were "selected" to take this test.
Have any of you received any documentation on this?? I have a call out to? SDE for confirmation.? I would also like a list of who the 75 are.????? Also..? What great timing for CTB to be having technical issues on their website ?and "scheduled?maintenance"? this weekend?when the?testing window opens next Thursday!!?? I really feel like we just need to go on?a testing strike until they can get their act together!!!!!?? ?? Sooooo frustrating on all levels..?
?
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:33 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board < counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote: 
?
Thank you all for sharing and reinforcing that I am not alone in seeing this ridiculousness for what it is. ?Also good to know that I am not going not the only one feeling the pressure balancing the testing madness with my real school counselor role... and and questioning an Alzheimer's diagnosis.... ? ?Every year, past several (post ace) years I relive a tornado like existence from March 1 through May (and periods of this at other time during the year as well). ?At least I know I'm not alone:).

?
Thank you all for sharing. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 31, 2014, at 11:15 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board < counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote: 

?


?I hope that those who were allowed to attend the state rally today can really send the message of overload.? I do not think that most teachers really understand the scope of our positions fully.? I am so glad we have this counselor forum to rant to each other.? It is always uplifting to know that we are all in the same boat.???
????
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Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 10:43 AM 
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM??
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Yes, it is though my mind and body have just gone into overload and then into shut down. It's hard to know where to start,?or do I say start over???

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On 03/31/14, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board < counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

 
?Ditto.? I am not only test coordinator, but I also teach alternative all day, am the school counselor, website director, ISIS coordinator and multiple other jobs.? I am tired of all of this testing setup.? I am beginning to think that I am getting Alzheimer?s because I can?t keep up with anything anymore.? I was working until 8 or 9 every night but I refuse to do it anymore.? Please take testing away from us.? I used to love the testing aspect of my job, but now I hate to get emails, especially when I have to unload content that I have just loaded.? Oh, I am also the technology coordinator.? Please let us get through this testing season because summer is just right around the corner.?
????
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Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 8:14 AM 
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Yes it is. ?I am losing my mind. ?Especially with the item try outs. ?This is crazy!?

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On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 6:32 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board < counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
Rant, I'm drowning in tests......endless emails, fall retest window, winter\trimester, writing, spring retest, I do 3-12 labeling, uploads, 2TT, Scheduling, finding monitors, remediation........ Along with all my endless duties!? Don't get me wrong I do love my job and my students but testing is out of control!

On Mar 28, 2014 4:16 PM, "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" < counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
Well, when I did the Webinar and they didn't know what a Portfolio was, I lost all faith.? And they say the Writing test can't be read aloud to IEP students---not sure they know what they're talking about.? And those materials come during OCCT testing.? How many people do they think are building test coordinators because I can only stretch so far.? Evidently they have no idea how long it takes to box tests up and mail back.? After a certain point, our schedule is filled with end of year activities that we cannot all of a sudden cancel or reschedule.? Yes!? Rant, Rant, Rant!? Gail Fine, Sallisaw?
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To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Date: 03/28/14 02:27 PM 
Subject: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM?
???
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?-----Original Message----- 
From: pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Date: 03/28/14 12:06 PM 
Subject: Re[2]: [Counselors] QUESTION: OAM?
?Does anyone want to join me on a RANT at the rally about 3-4 testing companies next year and all the work of the upcoming tryout tests? Too much time and energy is being spent in Oklahoma on poorly designed tests that make an A-F report card.??
?
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From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" < counselors at lists.onenet.net> 
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Date: 03/28/14 10:43 AM 
Subject: Re: [Counselors] QUESTION: OAM?
Calling all rural Oklahoma high schools, we are currently trying to incorporate Spanish as a Foreighn Language into our class schedule. However, we have always used the Computer Language class as out FL. We do not have the funding necessary for either online curriculum or hiring another teacher. Any ideas??
Thanks, 

Have a great day. 
Laura O'Hara, MAMFT 
DTC/School Counselor 
Cashion Public Schools 

On Fri 28/03/14 8:26 AM , OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board counselors at lists.onenet.net sent:?
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? What are you using for your OAM (Other Academic Measure)??
? Thank you,? Alicia?
? ??
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? Alicia Brierton ?
? Guidance Counselor ?
? MacArthur High School ?
? Office: 580 355 5230 Ext. 459 ?
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Calvin Public School??
P.O. Box 127??
229 Third Street??
Calvin, OK 74531??
?405-645-2411 X 1003???
?pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us ??
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Calvin Public School??
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229 Third Street??
Calvin, OK 74531??
?405-645-2411 X 1003???
?pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us ??
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504 W. Main?

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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 10:39:21 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??
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GUYMON SCHOOLS SUMMARY:
ALL Certified Staff (excluding administration) start at $2,000 above state
required (steps and degrees included)
ALL Counselors are paid an additional $3,400 for working 10 extra days
split between before school begins and after last day (basically we work
August 1st-May 31st.)

Duties are distributed by grade level we counsel but no extra monies are
applied:
PK-2nd- have no testing but go into classrooms as part of the duties.
Grades 3-8 have access to District Test Coordinator as in an advisory role
and one of correcting errors or misunderstandings with online issues. WAVE
uploads all testing information automatically.
3rd-4th- state testing "upload and behind scenes" is covered by registrar
and counselor but administered by teachers. The counselor does go into
classrooms as part of the counseling duties.
5th-6th- state testing "upload and behind scenes" is covered by registrar
and counselor and online testing administered by counselor but paper tests
are administered by teachers. The counselor does go into classrooms as part
of the duties.
7th-8th- state testing "upload and behind scenes" is covered by District
Test Coordinator and counselor and online testing administered by counselor
(if we had one...currently a superintendent has stepped in). Normally, the
counselor does go into homerooms if information needs passed to a group as
part of regular duties.
9th-12th- 2 counselors at HS split duties. The District Testing Coordinator
(separate job from any certified staff member but under superintendent's
certification and sign-off) uploads and tracks EOI takes and retakes.
Counselor responsibilities are test administration only.  This year we have
only had to be out of our offices 15 days so far with retakes and have 10
more scheduled in Spring window.  We are thankful for only 25 of our days
messed up with testing this year as opposed to the years when tracking and
uploads were the counselor's responsibility. Duties we split: IEP, 504,
Food Pantry, teaching a college readiness/communications in conflict
course, senior scholarships, student advocate and mediators, enrollment,
grief counseling, GEAR UP coordinator, OK Promise pushers, School
Improvement team.

I know far more was listed in the high school area, not because we do more
than the others WE DON'T, but because I know exactly what we do! All of
Guymon counselors have between 400-450 students to their charge and all do
a fabulous job. We are just too busy to sit down and talk about what we do.
I am in no way complaining about the job asked of us nor the pay received
for it. I feel blessed to be a part of a district that is trying to let
counselors be counselors. It is a tough job but I feel like we make a
positive difference and are supported by our administration and our school
board for doing so. Everyone chips in where needed. (This is evident in the
fact that no counselor could be found for the junior high this year and all
other counselors/admin have helped bridge the gap for the 400+ students.)


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 9:42 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

>  Go to OKCPS.org and under HR , click on Compensation -Benefits, look for
> our AFT Collecting Bargaining Agreement, you can look up all teacher,
> counselor,etc  salaries.  We are paid  about $3,000 more a year than a
> teacher, we work 196 days and teachers work 181. If you look at our pay
> scale, look at yrs of experience (2nd column)not the steps.
>
>
>
> June Woodall
>
> iOKCPS
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:
> counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] *On Behalf Of *OSRHE EPAS PK-12
> Counselor Discussion Board
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 03, 2014 12:25 PM
> *To:* counselors at lists.onenet.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??
>
>
>
> I get my base salary plus the (I think) 5% increase.  I am the DTC, BTC,
> do all scheduling of 3-12 testing, teach classes and get paid a little
> extra for the classes I teach (not much).
>
>
>
> *Nona Laminack*
>
> *Big Pasture School Counselor & Assistant Principal *
>
> PO Box 167
>
> Randlett, OK 73562
>
> (580) 281-3276
>
> nlaminack at bigpastureps.k12.ok.us
>
>
>
> *From:* counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [
> mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net<counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net>]
> *On Behalf Of *OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 02, 2014 9:38 PM
> *To:* counselors at lists.onenet.net
> *Subject:* [Counselors] Money for extra duties??
>
>
>
>
>
> I would like to compare what I am currently making to be DTC with some of
> you guys out there.  Do you get a base salary % increase, stipend, time
> sheet, or is it just part of your regular salary duties?
>
> Also do you teach a class and get extra pay?
>
>
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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11th & 12th Counselor
Guymon High School
PO Box 1307
2002 N. James
Guymon, OK 73942
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Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 10:48:28 -0500
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I think that the pay for counselors is left up to the individual districts to decide. I noticed before I became a school counselor that it does not specifically say on any pay schedule on the OSDE website how much counselors are supposed to be paid. It does not even have a base salary.?I believe that this causes there to be a vast difference in the interpretation of where to begin when determining salary base.? I am fortunate that I work for a district that considers the work that I do and pays me fairly for it.? My superintendent called me at the beginning of the summer after my first year and stated that she was going to put me on a 12 month contract because it was obvious that there is no beginning or end to my duties. Yes, this means I have summer work hours, but as I said before, I am paid fairly for that. I think that something needs to be done on the state level to make
counselor's salaries more consistent like those of teachers and also takes into consideration ALL of the responsibilities/duties that we are assigned as well as?the number of hours/days/months per year we work in order for things to go as smoothly as they do (despite constant changes in testing process).
?
Mary Pierce
Bennington Schools

-----Original Message-----
From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <counselors at lists.onenet.net>
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Date: 04/04/14 09:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??

?
?Go to OKCPS.org and under HR , click on Compensation ?Benefits, look for our AFT Collecting Bargaining Agreement, you can look up all teacher, counselor,etc ?salaries. ?We are paid? about $3,000 more a year than a teacher, we work 196 days and teachers work 181. If you look at our pay scale, look at yrs of experience (2 nd column)not the steps.?
???
?June Woodall?
?iOKCPS?
???
???
?
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Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 12:25 PM 
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net 
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Money for extra duties???
?
?
?I get my base salary plus the (I think) 5% increase.? I am the DTC, BTC, do all scheduling of 3-12 testing, teach classes and get paid a little extra for the classes I teach (not much).??
???
?Nona Laminack?
?Big Pasture School Counselor & Assistant Principal?
?PO Box 167?
?Randlett, OK 73562?
?(580) 281-3276?
??nlaminack at bigpastureps.k12.ok.us???
???
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?I would like to compare what I am currently making to be DTC with some of you guys out there.? Do you get a base salary % increase, stipend, time sheet, or?is it just part of your regular salary duties??
?Also do you teach a class and get extra pay??
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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 11:20:07 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM
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That is correct.  They are doing the field test for geography the same way
they are doing the field testing for Measured Progress.  The letter you
received from Kurt Bernhardt (SDE) will be the field tests you take so
everyone is not required to take geography this year.  

 

 

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Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 8:43 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM

 

I just found out yesterday that we are not scheduled to take the 7th grade
online Geography test.  CTB tells me that only 75 schools in Oklahoma were
"selected" to take this test.

Have any of you received any documentation on this?  I have a call out to
SDE for confirmation.  I would also like a list of who the 75 are.
Also..  What great timing for CTB to be having technical issues on their
website  and "scheduled maintenance"  this weekend when the testing window
opens next Thursday!!   I really feel like we just need to go on a testing
strike until they can get their act together!!!!!      Sooooo frustrating on
all levels..  

 

On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:33 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

Thank you all for sharing and reinforcing that I am not alone in seeing this
ridiculousness for what it is.  Also good to know that I am not going not
the only one feeling the pressure balancing the testing madness with my real
school counselor role... and and questioning an Alzheimer's diagnosis....
Every year, past several (post ace) years I relive a tornado like existence
from March 1 through May (and periods of this at other time during the year
as well).  At least I know I'm not alone:).

 

Thank you all for sharing.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 31, 2014, at 11:15 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

I hope that those who were allowed to attend the state rally today can
really send the message of overload.  I do not think that most teachers
really understand the scope of our positions fully.  I am so glad we have
this counselor forum to rant to each other.  It is always uplifting to know
that we are all in the same boat.  

 

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Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 10:43 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM

 

Yes, it is though my mind and body have just gone into overload and then
into shut down. It's hard to know where to start, or do I say start over? 

 

On 03/31/14, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote: 


Ditto.  I am not only test coordinator, but I also teach alternative all
day, am the school counselor, website director, ISIS coordinator and
multiple other jobs.  I am tired of all of this testing setup.  I am
beginning to think that I am getting Alzheimer's because I can't keep up
with anything anymore.  I was working until 8 or 9 every night but I refuse
to do it anymore.  Please take testing away from us.  I used to love the
testing aspect of my job, but now I hate to get emails, especially when I
have to unload content that I have just loaded.  Oh, I am also the
technology coordinator.  Please let us get through this testing season
because summer is just right around the corner.

 

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Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 8:14 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM

 

Yes it is.  I am losing my mind.  Especially with the item try outs.  This
is crazy!

 

On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 6:32 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

Rant, I'm drowning in tests......endless emails, fall retest window,
winter\trimester, writing, spring retest, I do 3-12 labeling, uploads, 2TT,
Scheduling, finding monitors, remediation........ Along with all my endless
duties!  Don't get me wrong I do love my job and my students but testing is
out of control!

On Mar 28, 2014 4:16 PM, "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board"
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

Well, when I did the Webinar and they didn't know what a Portfolio was, I
lost all faith.  And they say the Writing test can't be read aloud to IEP
students---not sure they know what they're talking about.  And those
materials come during OCCT testing.  How many people do they think are
building test coordinators because I can only stretch so far.  Evidently
they have no idea how long it takes to box tests up and mail back.  After a
certain point, our schedule is filled with end of year activities that we
cannot all of a sudden cancel or reschedule.  Yes!  Rant, Rant, Rant!  Gail
Fine, Sallisaw

  _____  

-----Original Message-----
From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board"
<counselors at lists.onenet.net>
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Date: 03/28/14 02:27 PM
Subject: [Counselors] Fw: Re[2]: QUESTION: OAM

 

  

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-----Original Message----- 
From: pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us 
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net 
Date: 03/28/14 12:06 PM 
Subject: Re[2]: [Counselors] QUESTION: OAM 

Does anyone want to join me on a RANT at the rally about 3-4 testing
companies next year and all the work of the upcoming tryout tests? Too much
time and energy is being spent in Oklahoma on poorly designed tests that
make an A-F report card. 

  _____  

-----Original Message----- 
From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board"
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> 
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net 
Date: 03/28/14 10:43 AM 
Subject: Re: [Counselors] QUESTION: OAM 

Calling all rural Oklahoma high schools, we are currently trying to
incorporate Spanish as a Foreighn Language into our class schedule. However,
we have always used the Computer Language class as out FL. We do not have
the funding necessary for either online curriculum or hiring another
teacher. Any ideas?

Thanks, 

Have a great day. 
Laura O'Hara, MAMFT 
DTC/School Counselor 
Cashion Public Schools 

On Fri 28/03/14 8:26 AM , OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
counselors at lists.onenet.net sent: 

  

  What are you using for your OAM (Other Academic Measure)? 

  Thank you,  Alicia 

    

    

  Alicia Brierton  

  Guidance Counselor  

  MacArthur High School  

  Office: 580 355 5230 Ext. 459 <tel:580%20355%205230%20Ext.%20459>   

  Fax: 580 585 6434 <tel:580%20585%206434>   

  "For I know the plans I have for you.to give you a future full of hope."  

 

 

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United in education, 

Patricia Marlow 

Calvin Public School 

P.O. Box 127 

229 Third Street 

Calvin, OK 74531 

405-645-2411 X 1003 <tel:405-645-2411%20X%201003>  

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FAX: 405-645-1056

 

"Kind words can be short and easy to speak, but their echoes are truly
endless." Mother Teresa

 

 

 

 

  

United in education, 

Patricia Marlow 

Calvin Public School 

P.O. Box 127 

229 Third Street 

Calvin, OK 74531 

405-645-2411 X 1003 <tel:405-645-2411%20X%201003>  

 <mailto:pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us> pmarlow at calvin.k12.ok.us  

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Forgan Public School

504 W. Main

Forgan, OK  73938

580-487-3366

508-487-3368 (fax)

 

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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 12:56:17 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Question re: selected for testing
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I think I would wait until after the "real test"!!


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 9:44 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

>  I also found out we were not testing Geography when I opened the CTB
> sessions. We did get an email that we were "chosen" to take the
> Measured Progress Writing for 7th grade and Reading for 8th grade. My
> question, *when* is the best time to tell students that have been working
> with the Geography mind set,  well, you are going to be taking a writing
> test instead?
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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 15:32:56 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Testing
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How do you guys get enough test proctors for your EOI tests?  Do you use 
parents? We are having a hard time finding help! How do you bigger schools 
do it?
  z Laura Anderson   z
  Duncan  High  School Counselor

Laura Anderson
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Fri Apr  4 16:02:35 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 21:02:35 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Testing
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We're in a small town and my Principal went to the Sr Citizens Center to ask for volunteers.  We have 5 recruits from there and two are former teachers.

Kelly Jennings, Counselor
Bennett Elementary School and Rector Johnson Middle School
108 West 5th Street
Broken Bow, OK  74728
Phone: 580-584-9603
Internal Direct: 4300
Mobile: 580-306-1141
Fax:  580-584-2549
Email:  kjennings at bbisd.org<mailto:kjennings at bbisd.org>

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 3:33 PM
To: Counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: [Counselors] Testing

How do you guys get enough test proctors for your EOI tests?  Do you use parents? We are having a hard time finding help! How do you bigger schools do it?
  * Laura Anderson   *
  Duncan  High  School Counselor


Laura Anderson
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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 16:12:08 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Testing
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Sign up sheets at conferences may help!

Sent from my iPad

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How do you guys get enough test proctors for your EOI tests?  Do you use parents? We are having a hard time finding help! How do you bigger schools do it?
  ? Laura Anderson   ?
  Duncan  High  School Counselor


Laura Anderson
Duncan Middle School
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Fri Apr  4 17:10:47 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 15:10:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??
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Right! And what is being done about it? Nothing. I used to have to come 5 days early in the Fall and stay 5 days late in Spring for nothing until a new counselor told them no. Then they divided what we made by180 and multiplied by 10 to pay us extra. The sad thing is it would cripple the schools--and rightly so--if we all refused all the extra work. Many schools do not have counselors because no one will do it. Know of a school who doesn't have football because no one will do it? Right!! Unfortunately you'll never get counselors to bond together and refuse.
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On Thu, 4/3/14, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??
 To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
 Date: Thursday, April 3, 2014, 7:28 AM
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 No I do not get an increase for
 anything I do except student information and website and it
 is very minimal.?
 I even have to teach all day on top of my counselor duties
 and only get the
 1000 for? having a master?s. I am consumed right
 now with the
 technology on top of testing because I am also the
 technology
 coordinator.? I am not sure what school you are from
 but most likely all
 of us are doing multiple jobs with little or no
 compensation. 
 
  ? 
 
 
 
 
 
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 duties?? 
 
 
 
 
 
  ? 
 
 ? 
 
 I
 would like to compare what I am currently making to be DTC
 with some of you
 guys out there.? Do you get a base salary % increase,
 stipend, time sheet,
 or?is it just part of your regular salary
 duties? 
 
 Also
 do you teach a class and get extra pay? 
 
 
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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 15:15:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??
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I remember when I moved from classroom to Counselors Office. Several teachers referred to me as "an administrator" and making big bucks now. They were shocked to find I got no more than I did in classroom.
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On Fri, 4/4/14, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??
 To: "counselors at lists.onenet.net" <counselors at lists.onenet.net>
 Date: Friday, April 4, 2014, 9:22 AM
 
 Ditto for us,
 multiple jobs. ?No extra pay. ?Acute stress
 disorder comes as a bonus. ? I see why we are losing so
 many qualified educators to other professions and other
 states.?
 
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 On Apr 3, 2014, at 7:28 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor
 Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 No I do not get an increase for
 anything I do except student information and website and it
 is very minimal.?
 I even have to teach all day on top of my counselor duties
 and only get the
 1000 for? having a master?s. I am consumed right now
 with the
 technology on top of testing because I am also the
 technology
 coordinator.? I am not sure what school you are from
 but most likely all
 of us are doing multiple jobs with little or no
 compensation. 
 
  ? 
 
 
 
 
 
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 On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS
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 To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
 
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  ? 
 
 ? 
 
 I
 would like to compare what I am currently making to be DTC
 with some of you
 guys out there.? Do you get a base salary % increase,
 stipend, time sheet,
 or?is it just part of your regular salary
 duties? 
 
 Also
 do you teach a class and get extra pay? 
 
  ? 
 
 Thank
 you! 
 
 
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Fri Apr  4 17:40:18 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 17:40:18 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Testing
In-Reply-To: <mailman.6495.1396649100.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.6450.1396644623.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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We ask local community club members to volunteer.  Some parents and some
military recruiters may help.


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:12 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> Sign up sheets at conferences may help!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 4, 2014, at 3:51 PM, "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <
> counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
>  How do you guys get enough test proctors for your EOI tests?  Do you use
> parents? We are having a hard time finding help! How do you bigger schools
> do it?
>  *  z Laura Anderson   z*
>  *  Duncan  High  School Counselor *
>
>
> Laura Anderson
> Duncan Middle School
>
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Guidance Counselor
Hennessey High School

Phone:  405.853.4394 ext.222
Fax:  405.853.4644
Email: jmoery at hps.k12.ok.us
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Sun Apr  6 14:45:39 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2014 19:45:39 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Testing
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References: <mailman.6450.1396644623.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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We use military recruiters, volunteers from the community colleges who need community service hours, and teachers on there plan hour when needed.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 4, 2014, at 3:50 PM, "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>> wrote:

How do you guys get enough test proctors for your EOI tests?  Do you use parents? We are having a hard time finding help! How do you bigger schools do it?
  * Laura Anderson   *
  Duncan  High  School Counselor


Laura Anderson
Duncan Middle School
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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2014 20:25:49 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Question re: selected for testing
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I'm not sure what the writing test will be like, but if it's similar to 8th grade, they need instruction about writing from prompts and passages. Don't wait; it's not too early to begin their instruction.

?
?Donna Deaton
???Wister High School???? ? ? ?????


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To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Date: 04/04/14 01:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Question re: selected for testing

I think I would wait until after the "real test"!!
?

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?
?I also found out we were not testing Geography when I opened the CTB sessions. We did get an email that we were "chosen" to take the Measured Progress Writing for 7th grade and Reading for 8th grade. My question, when is the best time to tell students that have been working with the Geography mind set,  well, you are going to be taking a writing test instead???
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 08:20:29 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 08:20:29 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??
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No extra pay here.  I took a 2000.00 cut in pay because I was career tech!


Anna Marie Perdue
Wellston School Counselor
aperdue at wellstonschools.org
A Great teacher is still by far the most important factor in
determining a student's educational success!

-----Original Message-----
From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net
[mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 5:15 PM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??

I remember when I moved from classroom to Counselors Office. Several
teachers referred to me as "an administrator" and making big bucks now. They
were shocked to find I got no more than I did in classroom.
--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 4/4/14, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Counselors] Money for extra duties??
 To: "counselors at lists.onenet.net" <counselors at lists.onenet.net>
 Date: Friday, April 4, 2014, 9:22 AM

 Ditto for us,
 multiple jobs.  No extra pay.  Acute stress  disorder comes as a bonus.   I
see why we are losing so  many qualified educators to other professions and
other  states.

 Sent from my iPhone
 On Apr 3, 2014, at 7:28 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor  Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net>
 wrote:
















 No I do not get an increase for
 anything I do except student information and website and it  is very
minimal.  I even have to teach all day on top of my counselor duties  and
only get the
 1000 for  having a master's. I am consumed right now  with the  technology
on top of testing because I am also the  technology  coordinator.  I am not
sure what school you are from  but most likely all  of us are doing multiple
jobs with little or no  compensation.







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 On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS
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 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 9:38 PM

 To: counselors at lists.onenet.net

 Subject: [Counselors] Money for extra
 duties??









 I
 would like to compare what I am currently making to be DTC  with some of
you  guys out there.  Do you get a base salary % increase,  stipend, time
sheet,  or is it just part of your regular salary  duties?

 Also
 do you teach a class and get extra pay?



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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 08:25:56 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 13:25:56 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
Message-ID: <mailman.6646.1396877144.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for Freshman Comp I & II.


Tammy Duncan

Alva High School Counselor

District Test Coordinator

(580)327-3682

tsduncan at alvaschools.net<mailto:tsduncan at alvaschools.net>

"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 08:27:45 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 08:27:45 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
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Wellston gives 1 whole credit for English comp I to either Eng III or IV.
And English comp II can count for either one also.



**

*Anna Marie Perdue*

*Wellston School Counselor*

*aperdue at wellstonschools.org <aperdue at wellstonschools.org>*

A Great teacher is still by far the most important factor in

determining a student's educational success!



*From:* counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:
counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] *On Behalf Of *OSRHE EPAS PK-12
Counselor Discussion Board
*Sent:* Monday, April 07, 2014 8:26 AM
*To:* counselors at lists.onenet.net
*Subject:* [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment



I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for Freshman
Comp I & II.



Tammy Duncan

Alva High School Counselor

District Test Coordinator

(580)327-3682

tsduncan at alvaschools.net

*"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."*

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 08:29:15 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 08:29:15 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
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When we have students take Freshman Comp I & II it does take place of their
Sr. English at Turpin.


On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:25 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

>  I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for
> Freshman Comp I & II.
>
>  Tammy Duncan
>
> Alva High School Counselor
>
> District Test Coordinator
>
> (580)327-3682
>
> tsduncan at alvaschools.net
>
> *"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."*
>
> *                                                           -Anonymous*
>
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Turpin Schools
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 08:33:57 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 08:33:57 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
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Skiatook High School does.  Students receive .5 credit for each course.  It
is part of our district policy that was recently approved by the board.
 They must complete English III before they can enroll in a concurrent
class for English IV credit.


On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:25 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

>  I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for
> Freshman Comp I & II.
>
>  Tammy Duncan
>
> Alva High School Counselor
>
> District Test Coordinator
>
> (580)327-3682
>
> tsduncan at alvaschools.net
>
> *"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."*
>
> *                                                           -Anonymous*
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
> http://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors
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-- 
Mary Beth Lykins
Skiatook High School
Guidance Counselor, 9-12, K-Z
918.396.1790   ext. 104
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 08:34:50 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 13:34:50 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Testing
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For monitors:  When I was at Sapulpa we used teacher aides, parents, military recruiters, school board members, School administration, counselors, paras, it was a pretty mixed bag - but we had our regulars we could always pull from if someone didn't show up as well.

Tori Whitecotton, LPC, MED
Central Tech, High School Counselor
Drumright Campus
Tori.whitecotton at centraltech.edu<mailto:Tori.whitecotton at centraltech.edu>
918-352-2551 x229

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Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 3:33 PM
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How do you guys get enough test proctors for your EOI tests?  Do you use parents? We are having a hard time finding help! How do you bigger schools do it?
  * Laura Anderson   *
  Duncan  High  School Counselor


Laura Anderson
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 08:38:52 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 13:38:52 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
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Sapulpa gives English 4 credit for completing Fresh Comp I and II together.

Tori Whitecotton, LPC, MED
Central Tech, High School Counselor
Drumright Campus
Tori.whitecotton at centraltech.edu<mailto:Tori.whitecotton at centraltech.edu>
918-352-2551 x229

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 8:26 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment

I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for Freshman Comp I & II.


Tammy Duncan

Alva High School Counselor

District Test Coordinator

(580)327-3682

tsduncan at alvaschools.net<mailto:tsduncan at alvaschools.net>

"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 09:00:48 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 09:00:48 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
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We do this.  Students are encouraged to take regular English IV to
reinforce English, but of course most do not!
We transcript it as English Comp I  and II and our school policy states
that it meets their English requirement.  They get .5 credit for each.


On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:25 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

>  I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for
> Freshman Comp I & II.
>
>  Tammy Duncan
>
> Alva High School Counselor
>
> District Test Coordinator
>
> (580)327-3682
>
> tsduncan at alvaschools.net
>
> *"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."*
>
> *                                                           -Anonymous*
>
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
*Linda Rauh*
*School Counselor*
*Canton Public Schools*
*PO Box 639*
*Canton, OK  73724*
*580-886-2256  Ext # 3*
rauhl at canton.k12.ok.us
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 09:07:51 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 09:07:51 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
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Fairview does

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 09:23:51 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 14:23:51 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
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Western Heights Public Schools must have Comp I and Comp II for English IV.

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Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 9:08 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment

Fairview does
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 09:33:35 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 09:33:35 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
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Guymon High, in accordance with ACE legislation and SB 290 session 2009,
shall govern the concurrent enrollment, dual credit, and EOI testing of any
Guymon High School student who wishes to participate in college classes
during his or her junior and/or senior year....
This is the beginning of the policy Guymon has on dual credit that had to
be implemented by state law. Here is another section taken from the policy
and law:
            The following higher education courses commonly taken through
      concurrent enrollment have been reviewed by the Oklahoma State
      Department of Education (OSDE) and approved for academic credit:

               College Algebra                   = 1 unit Algebra II

               General Biology                   = 1 unit Biology II

               General Botany                    = 1 unit Botany

                              Eng Comp I                         = 1/2 unit
Eng IV

                              Eng Comp II                        = 1/2 unit
Eng IV

                              Intro to Chemistry               = 1 unit
Chemistry

                              Chemistry I                          = 1 unit
Chemistry

                              Am. Hist early                      = 1/2
unit US Hist

                              Am. Hist late                        = 1/2
unit US Hist

                              Intro to Geography              = 1/2 unit
World Geog

                              Am. Fed. Govt.                    = 1/2 unit
Am. Government

                              Intro to Speech                    = 1/2 unit
Speech


              Courses not listed and for which academic credit is sought
may be

              submitted to OSDE for review of course curriculum alignment
with the

             Oklahoma Priority Academic Student Skills.


We actually allow classes worth 3 or fewer credits to be valued at 1/2 high
school credit and those valued at 4 or greater to have a value of 1 credit
at the high school. (This too is stated in the policy.) Our College Algebra
usually is counted as part of the required 4th year of math at Guymon High
since most students have taken Algebra II by the time they choose
concurrent.


The reason this law came into effect was because many schools were doing
their own thing with no standard: some schools refused to count concurrent
for any high school credit, some schools "over" counted things addressed in
the law by using AP exam credit in the junior year English as both English
3 credit for taking the course and English 4 credit for passing the test,
and still others were very random in handling concurrent and AP courses.
When students transferred from one Oklahoma school to another, they were
losing credits they thought they had and were being blocked from graduation
in other schools, therefor requiring summer school or attendance the next
year... To clean and clear it up, SB 290 session 2009, was written.





On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:07 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

>   Fairview does
>
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-- 
Dana Martin, M.Ed.
11th & 12th Counselor
Guymon High School
PO Box 1307
2002 N. James
Guymon, OK 73942
(580) 338-4350
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 09:44:00 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 09:44:00 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
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Rattan gives 1/2 credit for each in place of English IV.

Michelle Birchfield



On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:23 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

>   Western Heights Public Schools must have Comp I and Comp II for English
> IV.
>
>
>
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> counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] *On Behalf Of *OSRHE EPAS PK-12
> Counselor Discussion Board
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>
>
>
> Fairview does
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 10:23:15 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 10:23:15 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
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Locust Grove High School awards one half credit for Comp I and one half
credit for Comp II. A student can take both in place of English IV.

Colleen Carney
Academic Advisor/Counselor
Locust Grove High School
(918) 479-5247 ext. 1112

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:27 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> Wellston gives 1 whole credit for English comp I to either Eng III or IV.
> And English comp II can count for either one also.
>
>
>
>  *Anna Marie Perdue*
>
> *Wellston School Counselor*
>
> *aperdue at wellstonschools.org <aperdue at wellstonschools.org>*
>
> A Great teacher is still by far the most important factor in
>
> determining a student's educational success!
>
>
>
> *From:* counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:
> counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] *On Behalf Of *OSRHE EPAS PK-12
> Counselor Discussion Board
> *Sent:* Monday, April 07, 2014 8:26 AM
> *To:* counselors at lists.onenet.net
> *Subject:* [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
>
>
>
> I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for Freshman
> Comp I & II.
>
>
>
> Tammy Duncan
>
> Alva High School Counselor
>
> District Test Coordinator
>
> (580)327-3682
>
> tsduncan at alvaschools.net
>
> *"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."*
>
> *                                                           -Anonymous*
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 10:40:49 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 15:40:49 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
In-Reply-To: <mailman.6818.1396884285.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.6646.1396877144.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
 <mailman.6654.1396877305.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>,
 <mailman.6818.1396884285.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.6831.1396885423.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

Can honors credit be given for concurrent enrollment?


Melissa Poole

High School Counselor

Tecumseh Public Schools

Email poolem at tecumseh.k12.ok.us<mailto:poolem at tecumseh.k12.ok.us>

Phone: (405) 598-2113

Fax: (405)598-0394

________________________________
From: OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 10:23 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment

Locust Grove High School awards one half credit for Comp I and one half credit for Comp II. A student can take both in place of English IV.

Colleen Carney
Academic Advisor/Counselor
Locust Grove High School
(918) 479-5247 ext. 1112

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:27 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>> wrote:
Wellston gives 1 whole credit for English comp I to either Eng III or IV.  And English comp II can count for either one also.

Anna Marie Perdue
Wellston School Counselor
aperdue at wellstonschools.org<mailto:aperdue at wellstonschools.org>
A Great teacher is still by far the most important factor in
determining a student?s educational success!

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net> [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net>] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 8:26 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment

I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for Freshman Comp I & II.


Tammy Duncan

Alva High School Counselor

District Test Coordinator

(580)327-3682<tel:%28580%29327-3682>

tsduncan at alvaschools.net<mailto:tsduncan at alvaschools.net>

"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."

                                                           -Anonymous

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 10:52:36 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 10:52:36 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
In-Reply-To: <fa66fffa1428.5342c9c2@okunion.k12.ok.us>
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Oklahoma Union gives .5 credit for each course to take the place of English IV. 
 
On 04/07/14, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote: 
>   
>   
>  
>    
>  I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for Freshman Comp I & II.
>  
>   
> Tammy Duncan
>  
> Alva High School Counselor
>  
> District Test Coordinator
>  
> (580)327-3682
>  
> tsduncan at alvaschools.net
>  
> "It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 11:01:01 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 16:01:01 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment other than Comp I and Comp II
In-Reply-To: <mailman.6831.1396885423.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.6646.1396877144.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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 <mailman.6831.1396885423.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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Keys gives English IV credit for completion of Comp I and Comp II.
I would like to see how others are giving credit for courses other than Comp I and Comp II.


Carrie Jo Willis
Counselor
Keys High School
26622 S. 520 Rd.
Park Hill, OK  74451
phone (918) 458-1835
      fax (918) 456-7502
[Cougar Logo red and black]




From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 10:41 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment

Can honors credit be given for concurrent enrollment?


Melissa Poole

High School Counselor

Tecumseh Public Schools

Email poolem at tecumseh.k12.ok.us<mailto:poolem at tecumseh.k12.ok.us>

Phone: (405) 598-2113

Fax: (405)598-0394

________________________________
From: OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 10:23 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
Locust Grove High School awards one half credit for Comp I and one half credit for Comp II. A student can take both in place of English IV.

Colleen Carney
Academic Advisor/Counselor
Locust Grove High School
(918) 479-5247 ext. 1112

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:27 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>> wrote:
Wellston gives 1 whole credit for English comp I to either Eng III or IV.  And English comp II can count for either one also.

Anna Marie Perdue
Wellston School Counselor
aperdue at wellstonschools.org<mailto:aperdue at wellstonschools.org>
A Great teacher is still by far the most important factor in
determining a student's educational success!

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net> [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net>] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 8:26 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment

I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for Freshman Comp I & II.


Tammy Duncan

Alva High School Counselor

District Test Coordinator

(580)327-3682<tel:%28580%29327-3682>

tsduncan at alvaschools.net<mailto:tsduncan at alvaschools.net>

"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."

                                                           -Anonymous

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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 11:16:55 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Does your school count a Foreign Language credit as a
 Fine Art for the CORE Graduation plan? My previous school did this,
 but I need to know if other schools use this practice?
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 11:51:12 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 11:51:12 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
In-Reply-To: <mailman.6842.1396885988.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.6646.1396877144.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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Yes, we have done this in the past.

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From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <counselors at lists.onenet.net>
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Date: 04/07/14 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment


Oklahoma Union gives .5 credit for each course to take the place of English IV.?
?
On 04/07/14, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:?
 I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for Freshman Comp I & II. 

?
Tammy Duncan?
Alva High School Counselor?
District Test Coordinator?
(580)327-3682?
tsduncan at alvaschools.net?
?"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."??
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? -Anonymous??
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 12:43:40 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 12:43:40 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
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Roland High School does allow Freshman Comp I & II to replace English IV.  The other 2 schools I have worked in does as well.  
 
 
On 04/07/14, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote: 
>   
>   
>  
>    
>  I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for Freshman Comp I & II.
>  
>   
> Tammy Duncan
>  
> Alva High School Counselor
>  
> District Test Coordinator
>  
> (580)327-3682
>  
> tsduncan at alvaschools.net
>  
> "It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."
>  
>                                                            -Anonymous
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Counselor 
Roland High School
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 12:58:13 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 12:58:13 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
Message-ID: <mailman.6923.1396893544.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

 

I have worked at high schools that have recognized ENG Comp 1 and 2 to
count for ENG 4. However, I have also been at a school that did not
recognize this. So, I think it is up to each school district's board.

. On Mon 07/04/14 11:51 AM , OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
counselors at lists.onenet.net sent:
   Yes, we have done this in the past.

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 From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" 
 To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
 Date: 04/07/14 10:54 AM
 Subject: Re: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment

 Oklahoma Union gives .5 credit for each course to take the place of
English IV.? ?On 04/07/14,  wrote:  ? 

  I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for
Freshman Comp I FONT-SIZE: 13px">? 

Tammy Duncan? 

Alva High School Counselor? 

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(580)327-3682? 

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 14:44:03 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 19:44:03 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
In-Reply-To: <mailman.6646.1396877144.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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OKCPS does,

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 8:26 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment

I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for Freshman Comp I & II.


Tammy Duncan

Alva High School Counselor

District Test Coordinator

(580)327-3682

tsduncan at alvaschools.net<mailto:tsduncan at alvaschools.net>

"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."

                                                           -Anonymous
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 15:06:30 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 15:06:30 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
In-Reply-To: <mailman.6980.1396899883.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.6646.1396877144.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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Wesleyan Christian school does.

Alisha Ratzlaff, MSW
Wesleyan Christian School
Guidance Counselor/NHS Adviser
1780 Silver Lake Rd.
Bartlesville, OK 74006
(918) 333-8631 x241
aratzlaff at wcsbartlesville.org<mailto:aratzlaff at wcsbartlesville.org>


From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 2:44 PM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
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OKCPS does,

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net> [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 8:26 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment

I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for Freshman Comp I & II.


Tammy Duncan

Alva High School Counselor

District Test Coordinator

(580)327-3682

tsduncan at alvaschools.net<mailto:tsduncan at alvaschools.net>

"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 15:13:54 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:13:54 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
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Eldorado does.

 

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net
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Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 2:44 PM
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OKCPS does, 

 

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Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 8:26 AM
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Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment

 

I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for Freshman
Comp I & II.

 

Tammy Duncan

Alva High School Counselor

District Test Coordinator

(580)327-3682

tsduncan at alvaschools.net

"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."

                                                           -Anonymous



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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 15:46:22 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 20:46:22 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
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Lawton gives one credit for English Comp I = English III; and one credit of English Comp II = English IV
Lawton Public Schools
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:25 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>> wrote:
I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for Freshman Comp I & II.


Tammy Duncan

Alva High School Counselor

District Test Coordinator

(580)327-3682<tel:%28580%29327-3682>

tsduncan at alvaschools.net<mailto:tsduncan at alvaschools.net>

"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."

                                                           -Anonymous

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 15:52:49 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 13:52:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
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Deer Creek gives a full credit for Comp I and and full credit for Comp II. ?However, a student must take both classes to count for English IV.
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr  7 16:28:31 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 21:28:31 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Testing
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Lawton MacArthur uses teacher aides, parents, military recruiters and some non-testing teachers. (Counselors are used to administer the tests.)


For monitors:  When I was at Sapulpa we used teacher aides, parents, military recruiters, school board members, School administration, counselors, paras, it was a pretty mixed bag - but we had our regulars we could always pull from if someone didn't show up as well.

Tori Whitecotton, LPC, MED
Central Tech, High School Counselor
Drumright Campus
Tori.whitecotton at centraltech.edu<mailto:Tori.whitecotton at centraltech.edu>
918-352-2551 x229

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net> [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 3:33 PM
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Subject: [Counselors] Testing

How do you guys get enough test proctors for your EOI tests?  Do you use parents? We are having a hard time finding help! How do you bigger schools do it?
  * Laura Anderson   *
  Duncan  High  School Counselor


Laura Anderson
Duncan Middle School
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Tue Apr  8 08:34:08 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 08:34:08 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment other than Comp I and Comp II
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Kingfisher gives English IV credit for completion of both Comp I and II.
We also give high school credit for American Government if taken
concurrently.  All other concurrent classes are given elective credit.

KP


On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:01 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

>  Keys gives English IV credit for completion of Comp I and Comp II.
>
> I would like to see how others are giving credit for courses other than
> Comp I and Comp II.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Carrie Jo Willis*
>
> *Counselor*
>
> *Keys High School*
>
> 26622 S. 520 Rd.
>
> Park Hill, OK  74451
>
> phone (918) 458-1835
>
>       fax (918) 456-7502
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> [image: Cougar Logo red and black]
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>
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>
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> *From:* counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:
> counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] *On Behalf Of *OSRHE EPAS PK-12
> Counselor Discussion Board
> *Sent:* Monday, April 07, 2014 10:41 AM
> *To:* counselors at lists.onenet.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
>
>
>
> Can honors credit be given for concurrent enrollment?
>
>
>
> Melissa Poole
>
> High School Counselor
>
> Tecumseh Public Schools
>
> Email poolem at tecumseh.k12.ok.us
>
> Phone: (405) 598-2113
>
> Fax: (405)598-0394
>    ------------------------------
>
> *From:* OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board [
> counselors at lists.onenet.net]
> *Sent:* Monday, April 07, 2014 10:23 AM
> *To:* counselors at lists.onenet.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
>
> Locust Grove High School awards one half credit for Comp I and one half
> credit for Comp II. A student can take both in place of English IV.
>
>
>
> Colleen Carney
>
> Academic Advisor/Counselor
>
> Locust Grove High School
>
> (918) 479-5247 ext. 1112
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>
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:27 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
> Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
> Wellston gives 1 whole credit for English comp I to either Eng III or IV.
> And English comp II can count for either one also.
>
>
>
> *Anna Marie Perdue*
>
> *Wellston School Counselor*
>
> *aperdue at wellstonschools.org <aperdue at wellstonschools.org>*
>
> A Great teacher is still by far the most important factor in
>
> determining a student's educational success!
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> Counselor Discussion Board
> *Sent:* Monday, April 07, 2014 8:26 AM
> *To:* counselors at lists.onenet.net
> *Subject:* [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
>
>
>
> I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for Freshman
> Comp I & II.
>
>
>
> Tammy Duncan
>
> Alva High School Counselor
>
> District Test Coordinator
>
> (580)327-3682
>
> tsduncan at alvaschools.net
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Tue Apr  8 09:10:19 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:10:19 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] CONCURRENT ENROLLMENT CREDIT OTHER THAN COMP I/II
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Depending on the course the student is taking, depends on the credit:
Concurrent Enrollment US History earns credit for high school US History. Students are aware they need to take the EOI. These students usually score an advanced on EOI.
Concurrent Enrollment Speech, Music Appreciation, etc earns credit for high school fine arts.
Science for science
Math for math
Foreign language for foreign language
Everything else earns elective credit

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:01 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>> wrote:
Keys gives English IV credit for completion of Comp I and Comp II.
I would like to see how others are giving credit for courses other than Comp I and Comp II.


Carrie Jo Willis
Counselor
Keys High School
26622 S. 520 Rd.
Park Hill, OK  74451
phone (918) 458-1835<tel:%28918%29%20458-1835>
      fax (918) 456-7502<tel:%28918%29%20456-7502>
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Tue Apr  8 14:14:18 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:14:18 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Does your school count a Foreign Language credit
 as a Fine Art for the CORE Graduation plan? My previous school did this,
 but I need to know if other schools use this practice?
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Because I have never heard of such an option, we searched law to find that
it never directly addressed it because they are so distantly related. In
reading the descriptions of World Languages, there is NO mention of fine
arts. In reading the descriptions of possible fine arts, there is NO
mention of foreign languages... Having said that, I called Melissa White at
the state department and she replied with the following email.

"Foreign Language courses do not count as a Fine Art. ...



*Melissa White, M. Ed, LPC*

Executive Director of Counseling/ACE

Oklahoma State Department of Education

2500 N. Lincoln Blvd

OKC, OK 73105

(405) 521-3549

Fax (405)522-0496"


If your previous school is in the state of Oklahoma, I'd recommend letting
them know as a safeguard.


On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:16 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

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> Skiatook High School
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> 918.396.1790   ext. 104
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11th & 12th Counselor
Guymon High School
PO Box 1307
2002 N. James
Guymon, OK 73942
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Tue Apr  8 15:00:39 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 15:00:39 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
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On 4/7/2014 11:51 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board wrote:
> Yes, we have done this in the past.
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board"
>     <counselors at lists.onenet.net>
>     To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
>     Date: 04/07/14 10:54 AM
>     Subject: Re: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
>
>     Oklahoma Union gives .5 credit for each course to take the place
>     of English IV.
>     On 04/07/14, *OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board*
>     <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>>     I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for
>>     Freshman Comp I & II.
>>
>>     Tammy Duncan
>>
>>     Alva High School Counselor
>>
>>     District Test Coordinator
>>
>>     (580)327-3682
>>
>>     tsduncan at alvaschools.net <mailto:tsduncan at alvaschools.net>
>>
>>     /"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."/
>>
>>     /-Anonymous /
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Tue Apr  8 15:04:57 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 15:04:57 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
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Yes, Verdigris High School does.

-----Original Message-----
From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <counselors at lists.onenet.net>
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Date: 04/08/14 03:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment

On 4/7/2014 11:51 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board wrote: 
?
Yes, we have done this in the past. 

-----Original Message----- 
From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <counselors at lists.onenet.net>
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Date: 04/07/14 10:54 AM 
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment 


Oklahoma Union gives .5 credit for each course to take the place of English IV.?
?
On 04/07/14, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:? 
 I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for Freshman Comp I & II. 

? 
Tammy Duncan?
Alva High School Counselor?
District Test Coordinator?
(580)327-3682?
tsduncan at alvaschools.net ?
? "It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."??
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? -Anonymous ??
?
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Guidance Counselor 
Bennington Public Schools
?
?


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266-2336 ext. 2115
dmonroe at vps.k12.ok.us?



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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Tue Apr  8 15:28:56 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 15:28:56 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
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This course is discouraged at our school because our administration feels
it competes with our AP English Literature.  So far, no one has protested.

We typically offer 1st hour Concurrent via IETV through NWOSU, Redlands
and/or NOC in General ed classes such as Am History, Gov't, Psych, and/or
College Algebra since they tend to be required for most college majors.
 Some students do their own thing which we generally add to transcript as
elective credit upon request (or core credit if needed).


On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:04 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> Yes, Verdigris High School does.
>
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> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
> Date: 04/08/14 03:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
>
> On 4/7/2014 11:51 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board wrote:
>
>
> Yes, we have done this in the past.
>
> ------------------------------
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board"
> <counselors at lists.onenet.net> <counselors at lists.onenet.net>
> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
> Date: 04/07/14 10:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
>
> Oklahoma Union gives .5 credit for each course to take the place of
> English IV.
>
> On 04/07/14, *OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board*
> <counselors at lists.onenet.net> <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
>
> I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for Freshman
> Comp I & II.
>
>
>
> Tammy Duncan
>
> Alva High School Counselor
>
> District Test Coordinator
>
> (580)327-3682
>
>  tsduncan at alvaschools.net
>
>   *"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."*
>
> *                                                            -Anonymous *
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>  * Mary Pierce, LPC *
> Guidance Counselor
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>
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> Dee Monroe
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> 266-2336 ext. 2115
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-- 
Jill Moery
Guidance Counselor
Hennessey High School

Phone:  405.853.4394 ext.222
Fax:  405.853.4644
Email: jmoery at hps.k12.ok.us
HHS website <http://hhs.hps.k12.ok.us/>
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Apr 10 09:56:29 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 14:56:29 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
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If you speak with the SDE about the 2009 SB 290 it no longer applies. We spoke with Melissa White earlier this year and were instructed it was local district's determination. Although we refer to this list of courses and honor these it seems perhaps more can be approved locally. In fact if you attempt to locate this list on line...it is not found.






Becky Copeland
Counselor, H-O
Owasso High School
Direct Line: 918-272-8030
FAX: 918-272-8028
becky.copeland at owasso.k12.ok.us<mailto:becky.copeland at owasso.k12.ok.us>


Please visit the Owasso High School Homepage for information about scholarships, ACT deadlines, etc...
www.owasso.k12.ok.us<http://www.owasso.k12.ok.us/>


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Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 9:33 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment

Guymon High, in accordance with ACE legislation and SB 290 session 2009, shall govern the concurrent enrollment, dual credit, and EOI testing of any Guymon High School student who wishes to participate in college classes during his or her junior and/or senior year....
This is the beginning of the policy Guymon has on dual credit that had to be implemented by state law. Here is another section taken from the policy and law:
            The following higher education courses commonly taken through
      concurrent enrollment have been reviewed by the Oklahoma State
      Department of Education (OSDE) and approved for academic credit:
               College Algebra                   = 1 unit Algebra II
               General Biology                   = 1 unit Biology II
               General Botany                    = 1 unit Botany
                              Eng Comp I                         = 1/2 unit Eng IV
                              Eng Comp II                        = 1/2 unit Eng IV
                              Intro to Chemistry               = 1 unit Chemistry
                              Chemistry I                          = 1 unit Chemistry
                              Am. Hist early                      = 1/2 unit US Hist
                              Am. Hist late                        = 1/2 unit US Hist
                              Intro to Geography              = 1/2 unit World Geog
                              Am. Fed. Govt.                    = 1/2 unit Am. Government
                              Intro to Speech                    = 1/2 unit Speech

              Courses not listed and for which academic credit is sought may be
              submitted to OSDE for review of course curriculum alignment with the
             Oklahoma Priority Academic Student Skills.

We actually allow classes worth 3 or fewer credits to be valued at 1/2 high school credit and those valued at 4 or greater to have a value of 1 credit at the high school. (This too is stated in the policy.) Our College Algebra usually is counted as part of the required 4th year of math at Guymon High since most students have taken Algebra II by the time they choose concurrent.

The reason this law came into effect was because many schools were doing their own thing with no standard: some schools refused to count concurrent for any high school credit, some schools "over" counted things addressed in the law by using AP exam credit in the junior year English as both English 3 credit for taking the course and English 4 credit for passing the test, and still others were very random in handling concurrent and AP courses. When students transferred from one Oklahoma school to another, they were losing credits they thought they had and were being blocked from graduation in other schools, therefor requiring summer school or attendance the next year... To clean and clear it up, SB 290 session 2009, was written.




On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:07 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>> wrote:
Fairview does

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Dana Martin, M.Ed.
11th & 12th Counselor
Guymon High School
PO Box 1307
2002 N. James
Guymon, OK 73942
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Apr 10 09:58:45 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 14:58:45 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
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We do NOT award weight/honors to concurrent courses.




Becky Copeland
Counselor, H-O
Owasso High School
Direct Line: 918-272-8030
FAX: 918-272-8028
becky.copeland at owasso.k12.ok.us<mailto:becky.copeland at owasso.k12.ok.us>


Please visit the Owasso High School Homepage for information about scholarships, ACT deadlines, etc...
www.owasso.k12.ok.us<http://www.owasso.k12.ok.us/>


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Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 10:40 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment

Can honors credit be given for concurrent enrollment?


Melissa Poole

High School Counselor

Tecumseh Public Schools

Email poolem at tecumseh.k12.ok.us<mailto:poolem at tecumseh.k12.ok.us>

Phone: (405) 598-2113

Fax: (405)598-0394

________________________________
From: OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 10:23 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment

Locust Grove High School awards one half credit for Comp I and one half credit for Comp II. A student can take both in place of English IV.

Colleen Carney
Academic Advisor/Counselor
Locust Grove High School
(918) 479-5247 ext. 1112

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:27 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>> wrote:
Wellston gives 1 whole credit for English comp I to either Eng III or IV.  And English comp II can count for either one also.

Anna Marie Perdue
Wellston School Counselor
aperdue at wellstonschools.org<mailto:aperdue at wellstonschools.org>
A Great teacher is still by far the most important factor in
determining a student?s educational success!

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Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment

I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for Freshman Comp I & II.


Tammy Duncan

Alva High School Counselor

District Test Coordinator

(580)327-3682<tel:%28580%29327-3682>

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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 20:50:47 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
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Does anyone have a copy of the list from SB 290? I would love to see the state departments old list while we are revisiting our concurrent policy this year. I am a first year counselor and would like to have it to at least refer to.

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If you speak with the SDE about the 2009 SB 290 it no longer applies. We spoke with Melissa White earlier this year and were instructed it was local district's determination. Although we refer to this list of courses and honor these it seems perhaps more can be approved locally. In fact if you attempt to locate this list on line...it is not found.





Becky Copeland
Counselor, H-O
Owasso High School
Direct Line: 918-272-8030
FAX: 918-272-8028
becky.copeland at owasso.k12.ok.us<mailto:becky.copeland at owasso.k12.ok.us>


Please visit the Owasso High School Homepage for information about scholarships, ACT deadlines, etc...
www.owasso.k12.ok.us<http://www.owasso.k12.ok.us/>


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Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 9:33 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
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Guymon High, in accordance with ACE legislation and SB 290 session 2009, shall govern the concurrent enrollment, dual credit, and EOI testing of any Guymon High School student who wishes to participate in college classes during his or her junior and/or senior year....
This is the beginning of the policy Guymon has on dual credit that had to be implemented by state law. Here is another section taken from the policy and law:
            The following higher education courses commonly taken through
      concurrent enrollment have been reviewed by the Oklahoma State
      Department of Education (OSDE) and approved for academic credit:
               College Algebra                   = 1 unit Algebra II
               General Biology                   = 1 unit Biology II
               General Botany                    = 1 unit Botany
                              Eng Comp I                         = 1/2 unit Eng IV
                              Eng Comp II                        = 1/2 unit Eng IV
                              Intro to Chemistry               = 1 unit Chemistry
                              Chemistry I                          = 1 unit Chemistry
                              Am. Hist early                      = 1/2 unit US Hist
                              Am. Hist late                        = 1/2 unit US Hist
                              Intro to Geography              = 1/2 unit World Geog
                              Am. Fed. Govt.                    = 1/2 unit Am. Government
                              Intro to Speech                    = 1/2 unit Speech

              Courses not listed and for which academic credit is sought may be
              submitted to OSDE for review of course curriculum alignment with the
             Oklahoma Priority Academic Student Skills.

We actually allow classes worth 3 or fewer credits to be valued at 1/2 high school credit and those valued at 4 or greater to have a value of 1 credit at the high school. (This too is stated in the policy.) Our College Algebra usually is counted as part of the required 4th year of math at Guymon High since most students have taken Algebra II by the time they choose concurrent.

The reason this law came into effect was because many schools were doing their own thing with no standard: some schools refused to count concurrent for any high school credit, some schools "over" counted things addressed in the law by using AP exam credit in the junior year English as both English 3 credit for taking the course and English 4 credit for passing the test, and still others were very random in handling concurrent and AP courses. When students transferred from one Oklahoma school to another, they were losing credits they thought they had and were being blocked from graduation in other schools, therefor requiring summer school or attendance the next year... To clean and clear it up, SB 290 session 2009, was written.



On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:07 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>> wrote:
Fairview does

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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 21:15:47 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
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Lawton does not award weighted credit. Several reasons, and I am glad we don't.

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:59 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment


We do NOT award weight/honors to concurrent courses.



Becky Copeland
Counselor, H-O
Owasso High School
Direct Line: 918-272-8030
FAX: 918-272-8028
becky.copeland at owasso.k12.ok.us<mailto:becky.copeland at owasso.k12.ok.us>


Please visit the Owasso High School Homepage for information about scholarships, ACT deadlines, etc...
www.owasso.k12.ok.us<http://www.owasso.k12.ok.us/>


________________________________
From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net> [counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] on behalf of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
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To: counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
Can honors credit be given for concurrent enrollment?


Melissa Poole

High School Counselor

Tecumseh Public Schools

Email poolem at tecumseh.k12.ok.us<mailto:poolem at tecumseh.k12.ok.us>

Phone: (405) 598-2113

Fax: (405)598-0394

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From: OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 10:23 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment
Locust Grove High School awards one half credit for Comp I and one half credit for Comp II. A student can take both in place of English IV.

Colleen Carney
Academic Advisor/Counselor
Locust Grove High School
(918) 479-5247 ext. 1112

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:27 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>> wrote:
Wellston gives 1 whole credit for English comp I to either Eng III or IV.  And English comp II can count for either one also.

Anna Marie Perdue
Wellston School Counselor
aperdue at wellstonschools.org<mailto:aperdue at wellstonschools.org>
A Great teacher is still by far the most important factor in
determining a student's educational success!

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net> [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net>] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 8:26 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent enrollment

I'm interested in how many schools give Senior English credit for Freshman Comp I & II.


Tammy Duncan

Alva High School Counselor

District Test Coordinator

(580)327-3682<tel:%28580%29327-3682>

tsduncan at alvaschools.net<mailto:tsduncan at alvaschools.net>

"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."

                                                           -Anonymous

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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 15:45:58 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment
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Here is a copy of SB 290, look at E:  http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2009-10%20ENR/SB/SB290%20ENR.PDF

SDE has this out also:  http://ok.gov/sde/sites/ok.gov.sde/files/documents/files/Concurrent_Enrollment_Brochure2013.pdf

It is on the first page, middle section, top paragraph.
  "... school districts shall provide academic credit for any concurrently enrolled higher education courses that are correlated with the academic credit awarded by the institution of higher education."  Remember shall means you will.  It's a local decision.


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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:34:03 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment
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Thank you, but I have seen both of these links. I would like to see their old recommendations that are no longer published on the state departments website.

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 10:46 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment

Here is a copy of SB 290, look at E:  http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2009-10%20ENR/SB/SB290%20ENR.PDF

SDE has this out also:  http://ok.gov/sde/sites/ok.gov.sde/files/documents/files/Concurrent_Enrollment_Brochure2013.pdf

It is on the first page, middle section, top paragraph.
  "... school districts shall provide academic credit for any concurrently enrolled higher education courses that are correlated with the academic credit awarded by the institution of higher education."  Remember shall means you will.  It's a local decision.


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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Fri Apr 11 12:16:23 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 17:16:23 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment
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I have the original legislation. I can send it by fax. Let me know where. Thanks, Alicia

Alicia Brierton
Counselor
MacArthur High School
________________________________________
From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] on behalf of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 11:34 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment

Thank you, but I have seen both of these links. I would like to see their old recommendations that are no longer published on the state departments website.

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 10:46 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment

Here is a copy of SB 290, look at E:  http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2009-10%20ENR/SB/SB290%20ENR.PDF

SDE has this out also:  http://ok.gov/sde/sites/ok.gov.sde/files/documents/files/Concurrent_Enrollment_Brochure2013.pdf

It is on the first page, middle section, top paragraph.
  ?? school districts shall provide academic credit for any concurrently enrolled higher education courses that are correlated with the academic credit awarded by the institution of high?er education.?  Remember shall means you will.  It?s a local decision.




From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Fri Apr 11 13:22:43 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:22:43 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment
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References: <mailman.8540.1397231256.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>,
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Alicia,

Can you fax that to me as well? 580-327-4240

Tammy Duncan

Alva High School Counselor

District Test Coordinator

(580)327-3682

tsduncan at alvaschools.net

"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."

                                                           -Anonymous

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From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] on behalf of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:16 PM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment

I have the original legislation. I can send it by fax. Let me know where. Thanks, Alicia

Alicia Brierton
Counselor
MacArthur High School
________________________________________
From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] on behalf of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 11:34 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment

Thank you, but I have seen both of these links. I would like to see their old recommendations that are no longer published on the state departments website.

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 10:46 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment

Here is a copy of SB 290, look at E:  http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2009-10%20ENR/SB/SB290%20ENR.PDF

SDE has this out also:  http://ok.gov/sde/sites/ok.gov.sde/files/documents/files/Concurrent_Enrollment_Brochure2013.pdf

It is on the first page, middle section, top paragraph.
  ?? school districts shall provide academic credit for any concurrently enrolled higher education courses that are correlated with the academic credit awarded by the institution of high?er education.?  Remember shall means you will.  It?s a local decision.



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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Fri Apr 11 14:14:09 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 14:14:09 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8595.1397236699.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.8540.1397231256.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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I would like a copy, please. 918.321.4443
On Apr 11, 2014 1:13 PM, "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <
counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> I have the original legislation. I can send it by fax. Let me know where.
> Thanks, Alicia
>
> Alicia Brierton
> Counselor
> MacArthur High School
> ________________________________________
> From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [
> counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] on behalf of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
> Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 11:34 AM
> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
> Subject: Re: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment
>
> Thank you, but I have seen both of these links. I would like to see their
> old recommendations that are no longer published on the state departments
> website.
>
> From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:
> counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
> Counselor Discussion Board
> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 10:46 AM
> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
> Subject: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment
>
> Here is a copy of SB 290, look at E:
> http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2009-10%20ENR/SB/SB290%20ENR.PDF
>
> SDE has this out also:
> http://ok.gov/sde/sites/ok.gov.sde/files/documents/files/Concurrent_Enrollment_Brochure2013.pdf
>
> It is on the first page, middle section, top paragraph.
>   "... school districts shall provide academic credit for any concurrently
> enrolled higher education courses that are correlated with the academic
> credit awarded by the institution of high-er education."  Remember shall
> means you will.  It's a local decision.
>
>
>
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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 14:26:50 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment
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Will you please fax it to Shyanne Gatrost at 918-762-2704. Thank you!


On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:14 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> I would like a copy, please. 918.321.4443
> On Apr 11, 2014 1:13 PM, "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <
> counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
>> I have the original legislation. I can send it by fax. Let me know where.
>> Thanks, Alicia
>>
>> Alicia Brierton
>> Counselor
>> MacArthur High School
>> ________________________________________
>> From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [
>> counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] on behalf of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
>> Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
>> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 11:34 AM
>> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
>> Subject: Re: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment
>>
>> Thank you, but I have seen both of these links. I would like to see their
>> old recommendations that are no longer published on the state departments
>> website.
>>
>> From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:
>> counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
>> Counselor Discussion Board
>> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 10:46 AM
>> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
>> Subject: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment
>>
>> Here is a copy of SB 290, look at E:
>> http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2009-10%20ENR/SB/SB290%20ENR.PDF
>>
>> SDE has this out also:
>> http://ok.gov/sde/sites/ok.gov.sde/files/documents/files/Concurrent_Enrollment_Brochure2013.pdf
>>
>> It is on the first page, middle section, top paragraph.
>>   "... school districts shall provide academic credit for any concurrently
>> enrolled higher education courses that are correlated with the academic
>> credit awarded by the institution of high-er education."  Remember shall
>> means you will.  It's a local decision.
>>
>>
>>
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Fri Apr 11 16:28:42 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 21:28:42 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment
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Please fax to:  (918) 456-7502
Thanks!

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Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:16 PM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment

I have the original legislation. I can send it by fax. Let me know where. Thanks, Alicia

Alicia Brierton
Counselor
MacArthur High School
________________________________________
From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] on behalf of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 11:34 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment

Thank you, but I have seen both of these links. I would like to see their old recommendations that are no longer published on the state departments website.

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 10:46 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment

Here is a copy of SB 290, look at E:  http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2009-10%20ENR/SB/SB290%20ENR.PDF

SDE has this out also:  http://ok.gov/sde/sites/ok.gov.sde/files/documents/files/Concurrent_Enrollment_Brochure2013.pdf

It is on the first page, middle section, top paragraph.
  "... school districts shall provide academic credit for any concurrently enrolled higher education courses that are correlated with the academic credit awarded by the institution of higher education."  Remember shall means you will.  It's a local decision.



_______________________________________________
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Counselors at lists.onenet.net
http://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors


From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Sat Apr 12 08:57:20 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 08:57:20 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8730.1397251343.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.8540.1397231256.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>,
 <mailman.8566.1397233835.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
 <mailman.8595.1397236699.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
 <mailman.8730.1397251343.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.8803.1397311186.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

I would like a copy of  SB 290 also.  Fax 405-356-2534


Anna Marie Perdue
Wellston School Counselor
aperdue at wellstonschools.org
A Great teacher is still by far the most important factor in
determining a student's educational success!

-----Original Message-----
From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net
[mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 4:29 PM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment

Please fax to:  (918) 456-7502
Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net
[mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:16 PM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment

I have the original legislation. I can send it by fax. Let me know where.
Thanks, Alicia

Alicia Brierton
Counselor
MacArthur High School
________________________________________
From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net
[counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] on behalf of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 11:34 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment

Thank you, but I have seen both of these links. I would like to see their
old recommendations that are no longer published on the state departments
website.

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net
[mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 10:46 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment

Here is a copy of SB 290, look at E:
http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2009-10%20ENR/SB/SB290%20ENR.PDF

SDE has this out also:
http://ok.gov/sde/sites/ok.gov.sde/files/documents/files/Concurrent_Enrollment_Brochure2013.pdf

It is on the first page, middle section, top paragraph.
  "... school districts shall provide academic credit for any concurrently
enrolled higher education courses that are correlated with the academic
credit awarded by the institution of higher education."  Remember shall
means you will.  It's a local decision.



_______________________________________________
Counselors mailing list
Counselors at lists.onenet.net
http://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors

_______________________________________________
Counselors mailing list
Counselors at lists.onenet.net
http://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors


From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Sat Apr 12 17:43:00 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 22:43:00 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] =?utf-8?q?parents_opt_out_child_test?=
Message-ID: <mailman.8915.1397480627.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

Just curious.. how many of you have had  parents opt their child/children  out of state tests?

Thanks!






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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr 14 08:00:03 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 08:00:03 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8595.1397236699.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.8540.1397231256.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>,
 <mailman.8566.1397233835.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
 <mailman.8595.1397236699.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.8916.1397480640.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

Please fax it to me as well. Sheila Williams 918-650-9725. Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net
[mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:16 PM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment

I have the original legislation. I can send it by fax. Let me know where.
Thanks, Alicia

Alicia Brierton
Counselor
MacArthur High School
________________________________________
From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net
[counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] on behalf of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 11:34 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment

Thank you, but I have seen both of these links. I would like to see their
old recommendations that are no longer published on the state departments
website.

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net
[mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 10:46 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: [Counselors] Copy of SB290 regarding concurrent enrollment

Here is a copy of SB 290, look at E:
http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2009-10%20ENR/SB/SB290%20ENR.PDF

SDE has this out also:
http://ok.gov/sde/sites/ok.gov.sde/files/documents/files/Concurrent_Enrollme
nt_Brochure2013.pdf

It is on the first page, middle section, top paragraph.
  ". school districts shall provide academic credit for any concurrently
enrolled higher education courses that are correlated with the academic
credit awarded by the institution of high-er education."  Remember shall
means you will.  It's a local decision.



_______________________________________________
Counselors mailing list
Counselors at lists.onenet.net
http://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors



From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr 14 09:18:31 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 09:18:31 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] parents opt out child test
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8915.1397480627.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.8915.1397480627.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.8970.1397485562.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

I didn't have any in 3rd & 4th grade at Academy in Guymon (all the 3rd &
4th grades are at my school)

Kay Gilchrist


On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 5:43 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

>  Just curious.. how many of you have had  parents opt their
> child/children  out of state tests?
> Thanks!
>
> Sent from Windows Ma
>
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> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr 14 09:23:24 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:23:24 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] parents opt out child test
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8915.1397480627.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.8915.1397480627.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.8971.1397485570.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

None


Melissa Poole

High School Counselor

Tecumseh Public Schools

Email poolem at tecumseh.k12.ok.us<mailto:poolem at tecumseh.k12.ok.us>

Phone: (405) 598-2113

Fax: (405)598-0394

________________________________
From: OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 5:43 PM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: [Counselors] parents opt out child test

Just curious.. how many of you have had  parents opt their child/children  out of state tests?
Thanks!

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr 14 14:28:58 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:28:58 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] parents opt out child test
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8970.1397485562.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.8970.1397485562.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.9116.1397504148.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

Nobody in Fairview at the High School for sure.  Have not heard of anyone in our district.
Rinda Bowden

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr 14 14:47:29 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 19:47:29 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] parents opt out child test
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9116.1397504148.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.8970.1397485562.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>,
 <mailman.9116.1397504148.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.9120.1397504783.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

We have our first today in our elementary. Does anyone know of the proper procedure to document this?


Tammy Duncan

Alva High School Counselor

District Test Coordinator

(580)327-3682

tsduncan at alvaschools.net<mailto:tsduncan at alvaschools.net>

"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."

                                                           -Anonymous

________________________________
From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] on behalf of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 2:28 PM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] parents opt out child test

Nobody in Fairview at the High School for sure.  Have not heard of anyone in our district.
Rinda Bowden
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr 14 14:47:24 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:47:24 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] parents opt out child test
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9120.1397504783.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.8970.1397485562.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
 <mailman.9116.1397504148.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
 <mailman.9120.1397504783.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.9129.1397505295.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

I'm wondering the same thing.had our first one today.

 

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net
[mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 2:47 PM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] parents opt out child test

 

We have our first today in our elementary. Does anyone know of the proper
procedure to document this?

 

Tammy Duncan

Alva High School Counselor

District Test Coordinator

(580)327-3682

tsduncan at alvaschools.net

"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."

                                                           -Anonymous

  _____  

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net
[counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] on behalf of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 2:28 PM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] parents opt out child test

Nobody in Fairview at the High School for sure.  Have not heard of anyone in
our district.

Rinda Bowden

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr 14 15:25:00 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 15:25:00 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] parents opt out child test
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9129.1397505295.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.8970.1397485562.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
 <mailman.9116.1397504148.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
 <mailman.9120.1397504783.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
 <mailman.9129.1397505295.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.9154.1397508132.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

Rattan has not had any opt outs at this time, but I did hear that Antlers
did.


On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 2:47 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> I'm wondering the same thing...had our first one today.
>
>
>
> *From:* counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:
> counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] *On Behalf Of *OSRHE EPAS PK-12
> Counselor Discussion Board
> *Sent:* Monday, April 14, 2014 2:47 PM
>
> *To:* counselors at lists.onenet.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Counselors] parents opt out child test
>
>
>
> We have our first today in our elementary. Does anyone know of the proper
> procedure to document this?
>
>
>
> Tammy Duncan
>
> Alva High School Counselor
>
> District Test Coordinator
>
> (580)327-3682
>
> tsduncan at alvaschools.net
>
> *"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."*
>
> *                                                           -Anonymous*
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [
> counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] on behalf of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
> Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
> *Sent:* Monday, April 14, 2014 2:28 PM
> *To:* counselors at lists.onenet.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Counselors] parents opt out child test
>
> Nobody in Fairview at the High School for sure.  Have not heard of anyone
> in our district.
>
> Rinda Bowden
>
> _______________________________________________
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr 14 18:38:21 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 23:38:21 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Alternative education applications
Message-ID: <mailman.9267.1397567154.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

I would like to update our alternative education application/intake forms. Does anyone have some great ones they would be willing to share? I would welcome any versions anyone would like to email to me. Thanks.


Tammy Duncan

Alva High School Counselor

District Test Coordinator

(580)327-3682

tsduncan at alvaschools.net<mailto:tsduncan at alvaschools.net>

"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Apr 17 09:31:41 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:31:41 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests
Message-ID: <mailman.9896.1397745198.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

Just wondering about time frame for other EOI subject tests... Since we
were selected and are doing "try-outs" in addition to the many operational
tests, the number of extra questions and the time it took to test caught us
off guard.  The new testing client requires advanced technology, so many of
our computers are not able to accommodate, and our computer lab schedules
are a delicate balance in sharing with all the other testing in our
district.

So far we have just done the English Multiple choice.    While this new TA
manual for spring estimates 60 minutes for each section for English 2, I
can tell you this was NOT the case.  Our Eng 2 multiple choice had 80
questions including some constructed response. We started first thing in
the morning and most were barely done by lunch, some took longer...

Our special ed group (that would have previously been taking an OMAAP)
tested from 8:30am- 1:30pm with only a break.   We would have let them go
to lunch after section one if we would have known how LONG section 2 was...


Not to mention, you have stressed kids close together in a lab trying to
concentrate and read, then you've got the kids next to them that are
already on the constructed response typing away on the keyboard which makes
distracting noise!!!!!!!!

Anyway, any advisement on time frame from those who have already
administered any of the other subject tests would be great.

Thanks...
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Apr 17 09:53:12 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 14:53:12 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9896.1397745198.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.9896.1397745198.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.9905.1397746430.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

I also have wondered about the length of these tests. A student can take a 4 subject college entrance test in 4 hours but it take almost that long for 1 subject of EOI tests. I don't feel these tests would be such a burden to schools if they were able to complete them in an hour.


Tammy Duncan

Alva High School Counselor

District Test Coordinator

(580)327-3682

tsduncan at alvaschools.net<mailto:tsduncan at alvaschools.net>

"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."

                                                           -Anonymous

________________________________
From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] on behalf of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:31 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests


Just wondering about time frame for other EOI subject tests... Since we were selected and are doing "try-outs" in addition to the many operational tests, the number of extra questions and the time it took to test caught us off guard.  The new testing client requires advanced technology, so many of our computers are not able to accommodate, and our computer lab schedules are a delicate balance in sharing with all the other testing in our district.

So far we have just done the English Multiple choice.    While this new TA manual for spring estimates 60 minutes for each section for English 2, I can tell you this was NOT the case.  Our Eng 2 multiple choice had 80 questions including some constructed response. We started first thing in the morning and most were barely done by lunch, some took longer...

Our special ed group (that would have previously been taking an OMAAP) tested from 8:30am- 1:30pm with only a break.   We would have let them go to lunch after section one if we would have known how LONG section 2 was...

Not to mention, you have stressed kids close together in a lab trying to concentrate and read, then you've got the kids next to them that are already on the constructed response typing away on the keyboard which makes distracting noise!!!!!!!!

Anyway, any advisement on time frame from those who have already administered any of the other subject tests would be great.

Thanks...







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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Apr 17 10:10:41 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:10:41 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9905.1397746430.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.9896.1397745198.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
 <mailman.9905.1397746430.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.10026.1397752435.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

Is this on the Item Tryout test or the operational EOI test?

 

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net
[mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:53 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests

 

I also have wondered about the length of these tests. A student can take a 4
subject college entrance test in 4 hours but it take almost that long for 1
subject of EOI tests. I don't feel these tests would be such a burden to
schools if they were able to complete them in an hour.

 

Tammy Duncan

Alva High School Counselor

District Test Coordinator

(580)327-3682

tsduncan at alvaschools.net <mailto:tsduncan at alvaschools.net> 

"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."

                                                           -Anonymous

  _____  

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net
<mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net>
[counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] on behalf of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:31 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net <mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net> 
Subject: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests

 

Just wondering about time frame for other EOI subject tests... Since we were
selected and are doing "try-outs" in addition to the many operational tests,
the number of extra questions and the time it took to test caught us off
guard.  The new testing client requires advanced technology, so many of our
computers are not able to accommodate, and our computer lab schedules are a
delicate balance in sharing with all the other testing in our district.    

 

So far we have just done the English Multiple choice.    While this new TA
manual for spring estimates 60 minutes for each section for English 2, I can
tell you this was NOT the case.  Our Eng 2 multiple choice had 80 questions
including some constructed response. We started first thing in the morning
and most were barely done by lunch, some took longer... 

 

Our special ed group (that would have previously been taking an OMAAP)
tested from 8:30am- 1:30pm with only a break.   We would have let them go to
lunch after section one if we would have known how LONG section 2 was...   

 

Not to mention, you have stressed kids close together in a lab trying to
concentrate and read, then you've got the kids next to them that are already
on the constructed response typing away on the keyboard which makes
distracting noise!!!!!!!! 

 

Anyway, any advisement on time frame from those who have already
administered any of the other subject tests would be great.  

 

Thanks...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Apr 17 11:25:51 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:25:51 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9905.1397746430.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.9896.1397745198.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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So, I have a question.... were your "try out" questions on the regular
EOI?... or is that a separate test?  I am trying to figure out if your
regular EOI English II online test took that long... or was it so long
because you had extra "try out" questions included in that?.....



On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:53 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

>  I also have wondered about the length of these tests. A student can take
> a 4 subject college entrance test in 4 hours but it take almost that long
> for 1 subject of EOI tests. I don't feel these tests would be such a burden
> to schools if they were able to complete them in an hour.
>
>  Tammy Duncan
>
> Alva High School Counselor
>
> District Test Coordinator
>
> (580)327-3682
>
> tsduncan at alvaschools.net
>
> *"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."*
>
> *                                                           -Anonymous*
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [
> counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] on behalf of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
> Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:31 AM
> *To:* counselors at lists.onenet.net
> *Subject:* [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests
>
>
>   Just wondering about time frame for other EOI subject tests... Since we
> were selected and are doing "try-outs" in addition to the many operational
> tests, the number of extra questions and the time it took to test caught us
> off guard.  The new testing client requires advanced technology, so many of
> our computers are not able to accommodate, and our computer lab schedules
> are a delicate balance in sharing with all the other testing in our
> district.
>
>  So far we have just done the English Multiple choice.    While this new
> TA manual for spring estimates 60 minutes for each section for English 2, I
> can tell you this was NOT the case.  Our Eng 2 multiple choice had 80
> questions including some constructed response. We started first thing in
> the morning and most were barely done by lunch, some took longer...
>
>  Our special ed group (that would have previously been taking an OMAAP)
> tested from 8:30am- 1:30pm with only a break.   We would have let them go
> to lunch after section one if we would have known how LONG section 2 was...
>
>
>  Not to mention, you have stressed kids close together in a lab trying to
> concentrate and read, then you've got the kids next to them that are
> already on the constructed response typing away on the keyboard which makes
> distracting noise!!!!!!!!
>
>  Anyway, any advisement on time frame from those who have already
> administered any of the other subject tests would be great.
>
>  Thanks...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Apr 17 11:26:34 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:26:34 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests
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Just opened the Item Tryout paper/pencil tests. You had better get a big start on organizing these materials because the packaging is very unorganized. The answer documents and tests are not in consecutive numerical order. I've heard of this at other districts, so I know it's not just mine that came that way.

-----Original Message-----
From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <counselors at lists.onenet.net>
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Date: 04/17/14 09:33 AM
Subject: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests

?

?Just wondering about time frame for other EOI subject tests... Since we were selected and are doing "try-outs" in addition to the many operational tests, the number of extra questions and the time it took to test caught us off guard.  The new testing client requires advanced technology, so many of our computers are not able to accommodate, and our computer lab schedules are a delicate balance in sharing with all the other testing in our district.   ?


So far we have just done the English Multiple choice.    While this new TA manual for spring estimates 60 minutes for each section for English 2, I can tell you this was NOT the case.  Our Eng 2 multiple choice had 80 questions including some constructed response. We started first thing in the morning and most were barely done by lunch, some took longer...?


Our special ed group (that would have previously been taking an OMAAP) tested from 8:30am- 1:30pm with only a break.   We would have let them go to lunch after section one if we would have known how LONG section 2 was...  ?


Not to mention, you have stressed kids close together in a lab trying to concentrate and read, then you've got the kids next to them that are already on the constructed response typing away on the keyboard which makes distracting noise!!!!!!!! 
?


Anyway, any advisement on time frame from those who have already administered any of the other subject tests would be great. ?


Thanks...












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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Apr 17 12:45:56 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 12:45:56 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests
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That was our regular operational test in English 2 Mult choice portion
only...

We have not done our try out testing yet- but we were selected to do the
'tryouts" in alg 1, 2, and geometry.   It was my understanding that some
districts got assigned tryouts in no subjects, some got all.

We administered our English 3 MC today, it was long and additional
questions were included like on the Eng 2.  The kids seemed to get through
the Eng 3 questions faster though... we only had a few testing into lunch
today.



On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:25 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> So, I have a question.... were your "try out" questions on the regular
> EOI?... or is that a separate test?  I am trying to figure out if your
> regular EOI English II online test took that long... or was it so long
> because you had extra "try out" questions included in that?.....
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:53 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
> Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
>>  I also have wondered about the length of these tests. A student can
>> take a 4 subject college entrance test in 4 hours but it take almost that
>> long for 1 subject of EOI tests. I don't feel these tests would be such a
>> burden to schools if they were able to complete them in an hour.
>>
>>  Tammy Duncan
>>
>> Alva High School Counselor
>>
>> District Test Coordinator
>>
>> (580)327-3682
>>
>> tsduncan at alvaschools.net
>>
>> *"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."*
>>
>> *                                                           -Anonymous*
>>   ------------------------------
>> *From:* counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [
>> counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] on behalf of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
>> Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:31 AM
>> *To:* counselors at lists.onenet.net
>> *Subject:* [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests
>>
>>
>>   Just wondering about time frame for other EOI subject tests... Since
>> we were selected and are doing "try-outs" in addition to the many
>> operational tests, the number of extra questions and the time it took to
>> test caught us off guard.  The new testing client requires advanced
>> technology, so many of our computers are not able to accommodate, and our
>> computer lab schedules are a delicate balance in sharing with all the other
>> testing in our district.
>>
>>  So far we have just done the English Multiple choice.    While this new
>> TA manual for spring estimates 60 minutes for each section for English 2, I
>> can tell you this was NOT the case.  Our Eng 2 multiple choice had 80
>> questions including some constructed response. We started first thing in
>> the morning and most were barely done by lunch, some took longer...
>>
>>  Our special ed group (that would have previously been taking an OMAAP)
>> tested from 8:30am- 1:30pm with only a break.   We would have let them go
>> to lunch after section one if we would have known how LONG section 2 was...
>>
>>
>>  Not to mention, you have stressed kids close together in a lab trying
>> to concentrate and read, then you've got the kids next to them that are
>> already on the constructed response typing away on the keyboard which makes
>> distracting noise!!!!!!!!
>>
>>  Anyway, any advisement on time frame from those who have already
>> administered any of the other subject tests would be great.
>>
>>  Thanks...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Counselors mailing list
>> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
>> http://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors
>>
>
>
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-- 
Jill Moery
Guidance Counselor
Hennessey High School

Phone:  405.853.4394 ext.222
Fax:  405.853.4644
Email: jmoery at hps.k12.ok.us
HHS website <http://hhs.hps.k12.ok.us/>
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Apr 17 13:05:26 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 13:05:26 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests
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It is taking our students 3 to 3 1/2 hours to finish Sections 2 and 3 of the 
English II and English III online tests.  It is a little distracting when 
some students are typing away on the keyboard and others are trying to 
concentrate on other questions.
zLaura Andersonz
Duncan  High  School Counselor


-----Original Message-----
From: OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board 
<counselors at lists.onenet.net>
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:26:34 -0500
Subject: Re: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests


Just opened the Item Tryout paper/pencil tests. You had better get a big 
start on organizing these materials because the packaging is very 
unorganized. The answer documents and tests are not in consecutive numerical 
order. I've heard of this at other districts, so I know it's not just mine 
that came that way.

-----Original Message-----
From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" 
<counselors at lists.onenet.net [mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net]>
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net [mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net]
Date: 04/17/14 09:33 AM
Subject: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests


Just wondering about time frame for other EOI subject tests... Since we were 
selected and are doing "try-outs" in addition to the many operational tests, 
the number of extra questions and the time it took to test caught us off 
guard. The new testing client requires advanced technology, so many of our 
computers are not able to accommodate, and our computer lab schedules are a 
delicate balance in sharing with all the other testing in our district.

So far we have just done the English Multiple choice. While this new TA 
manual for spring estimates 60 minutes for each section for English 2, I can 
tell you this was NOT the case. Our Eng 2 multiple choice had 80 questions 
including some constructed response. We started first thing in the morning 
and most were barely done by lunch, some took longer...

Our special ed group (that would have previously been taking an OMAAP) 
tested from 8:30am- 1:30pm with only a break. We would have let them go to 
lunch after section one if we would have known how LONG section 2 was...

Not to mention, you have stressed kids close together in a lab trying to 
concentrate and read, then you've got the kids next to them that are already 
on the constructed response typing away on the keyboard which makes 
distracting noise!!!!!!!!

Anyway, any advisement on time frame from those who have already 
administered any of the other subject tests would be great.

Thanks..._______________________________________________
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Dee Monroe
Verdigris Grades 5--8 Counselor
266-2336 ext. 2115
dmonroe at vps.k12.ok.us [mailto:dmonroe at vps.k12.ok.us]

Laura Anderson
Duncan Middle School
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Apr 17 14:58:28 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 19:58:28 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests
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The field tests are from a completely different company. Each school should have been given which test you are to give(elementary tests, middle, high). You won't give all tests( at least not in OKCPS).  :) You should have a different icon on the computer to click on for the English 2 and 3 tests.
At least in OKCPS, each school was given which field tests to take and what grade level. We are not giving all 3rd grade test; only the 3rd grade writing.

Good luck


From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:26 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests

So, I have a question.... were your "try out" questions on the regular EOI?... or is that a separate test?  I am trying to figure out if your regular EOI English II online test took that long... or was it so long because you had extra "try out" questions included in that?.....


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:53 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>> wrote:
I also have wondered about the length of these tests. A student can take a 4 subject college entrance test in 4 hours but it take almost that long for 1 subject of EOI tests. I don't feel these tests would be such a burden to schools if they were able to complete them in an hour.


Tammy Duncan

Alva High School Counselor

District Test Coordinator

(580)327-3682<tel:%28580%29327-3682>

tsduncan at alvaschools.net<mailto:tsduncan at alvaschools.net>

"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."

                                                           -Anonymous

________________________________
From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net> [counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net>] on behalf of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>]
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:31 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>
Subject: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests

Just wondering about time frame for other EOI subject tests... Since we were selected and are doing "try-outs" in addition to the many operational tests, the number of extra questions and the time it took to test caught us off guard.  The new testing client requires advanced technology, so many of our computers are not able to accommodate, and our computer lab schedules are a delicate balance in sharing with all the other testing in our district.

So far we have just done the English Multiple choice.    While this new TA manual for spring estimates 60 minutes for each section for English 2, I can tell you this was NOT the case.  Our Eng 2 multiple choice had 80 questions including some constructed response. We started first thing in the morning and most were barely done by lunch, some took longer...

Our special ed group (that would have previously been taking an OMAAP) tested from 8:30am- 1:30pm with only a break.   We would have let them go to lunch after section one if we would have known how LONG section 2 was...

Not to mention, you have stressed kids close together in a lab trying to concentrate and read, then you've got the kids next to them that are already on the constructed response typing away on the keyboard which makes distracting noise!!!!!!!!

Anyway, any advisement on time frame from those who have already administered any of the other subject tests would be great.

Thanks...








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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Apr 17 15:08:55 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 15:08:55 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests
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The item try outs for grades 3--8.

-----Original Message-----
From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <counselors at lists.onenet.net>
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Date: 04/17/14 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests

?
Is this on the Item Tryout test or the operational EOI test?
?

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:53 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests

?
I also have wondered about the length of these tests. A student can take a 4 subject college entrance test in 4 hours but it take almost that long for 1 subject of EOI tests. I don't feel these tests would be such a burden to schools if they were able to complete them in an hour.
?
Tammy Duncan
Alva High School Counselor
District Test Coordinator
(580)327-3682
tsduncan at alvaschools.net
"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? -Anonymous?
?



From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] on behalf of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:31 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests

?

Just wondering about time frame for other EOI subject tests... Since we were selected and are doing "try-outs" in addition to the many operational tests, the number of extra questions and the time it took to test caught us off guard. ?The new testing client requires advanced technology, so many of our computers are not able to accommodate, and our computer lab schedules are a delicate balance in sharing with all the other testing in our district. ? ?

?

So far we have just done the English Multiple choice. ? ?While this new TA manual for spring estimates 60 minutes for each section for English 2, I can tell you this was NOT the case. ?Our Eng 2 multiple choice had 80 questions including some constructed response. We started first thing in the morning and most were barely done by lunch, some took longer...?

?

Our special ed group (that would have previously been taking an OMAAP) tested from 8:30am- 1:30pm with only a break. ? We would have let them go to lunch after section one if we would have known how LONG section 2 was... ??

?

Not to mention, you have stressed kids close together in a lab trying to concentrate and read, then you've got the kids next to them that are already on the constructed response typing away on the keyboard which makes distracting noise!!!!!!!!?

?

Anyway, any advisement on time frame from those who have already administered any of the other subject tests would be great. ?

?

Thanks...

?

?

?

?

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Apr 17 15:41:51 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 15:41:51 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests
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The EOI Field tests are not from a different company, they are still CTB
McGraw/Hill but the 3-8 field tests are from a different company, Measured
Progress.

Amy Broadbent
Kingfisher Middle School Counselor
405-375-6607


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 3:08 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> The item try outs for grades 3--8.
>
> ------------------------------
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <
> counselors at lists.onenet.net>
> To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
> Date: 04/17/14 11:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests
>
>
>
> Is this on the Item Tryout test or the operational EOI test?
>
>
>
> *From:* counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:
> counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] *On Behalf Of* OSRHE EPAS PK-12
> Counselor Discussion Board
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:53 AM
> *To:* counselors at lists.onenet.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests
>
>
>
> I also have wondered about the length of these tests. A student can take a
> 4 subject college entrance test in 4 hours but it take almost that long for
> 1 subject of EOI tests. I don't feel these tests would be such a burden to
> schools if they were able to complete them in an hour.
>
>
>
> Tammy Duncan
>
> Alva High School Counselor
>
> District Test Coordinator
>
> (580)327-3682
>
> tsduncan at alvaschools.net
>
> *"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."*
>
> *                                                           -Anonymous*
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [
> counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] on behalf of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
> Counselor Discussion Board [counselors at lists.onenet.net]
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:31 AM
> *To:* counselors at lists.onenet.net
> *Subject:* [Counselors] EOI testing- length of tests
>
>
>
> Just wondering about time frame for other EOI subject tests... Since we
> were selected and are doing "try-outs" in addition to the many operational
> tests, the number of extra questions and the time it took to test caught us
> off guard.  The new testing client requires advanced technology, so many of
> our computers are not able to accommodate, and our computer lab schedules
> are a delicate balance in sharing with all the other testing in our
> district.
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>
>
> So far we have just done the English Multiple choice.    While this new TA
> manual for spring estimates 60 minutes for each section for English 2, I
> can tell you this was NOT the case.  Our Eng 2 multiple choice had 80
> questions including some constructed response. We started first thing in
> the morning and most were barely done by lunch, some took longer...
>
>
>
> Our special ed group (that would have previously been taking an OMAAP)
> tested from 8:30am- 1:30pm with only a break.   We would have let them go
> to lunch after section one if we would have known how LONG section 2 was...
>
>
>
>
> Not to mention, you have stressed kids close together in a lab trying to
> concentrate and read, then you've got the kids next to them that are
> already on the constructed response typing away on the keyboard which makes
> distracting noise!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> Anyway, any advisement on time frame from those who have already
> administered any of the other subject tests would be great.
>
>
>
> Thanks...
>
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Tue Apr 22 07:27:16 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 12:27:16 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] FYI 7th grade Measured Progress Field Test
Message-ID: <mailman.10740.1398169745.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

Here is what we are finding today while taking 7th grade field Writing test from Measured Progress. The manual suggests it will take 90 minutes. It is taking at least 2 hours for our students to take after the instructions are read. For students who haven't had keyboarding it is one key stroke at a time and very long.

 Ginger Cummins
Seminole Middle School Counselor
gcummins at sps.k12.ok.us<mailto:gcummins at sps.k12.ok.us>
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Apr 24 07:47:38 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 07:47:38 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] 6th -8th Online Reading Students w/ Screen Reader
 Feature getting kicked off
Message-ID: <mailman.515.1398344675.2121.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

Tuesday was our first day of online testing (Reading), our Special students
continued to get a message "EXIT TEST"  as soon as they logged in and
pushed start.  We called CTB and they could not give us an answer on how to
fix this.    I had told them that the students effected all had the "screen
reader"  option checked on the accommodation page.. (This is not Subject
specific on CTB's system). I had even called last week when I ran my
summary page because it showed on my Reading Summary Sheet that I had
students with the screen reader feature and I knew this was NOT AN OPTION.
Yesterday I decided to "uncheck" the screen reader option and see what
happened.
All of my students were able to log in and take their Reading test without
any issues.
I will now go back and "recheck" screen reader for their Math test and see
what happens next week.
I called a friend at another district yesterday and said she had ran into
the same issue. (CTB had given me the impression I was the only one with
this issue.)

Just thought I would post this in case any of you had the same problem.

Happy Testing!

Kerri Perry
Bridge Creek Middle
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Apr 24 11:09:32 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 11:09:32 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] 6th -8th Online Reading Students w/ Screen Reader
	Feature getting kicked off
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References: <mailman.515.1398344675.2121.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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We had the same issue as well.  I contacted CTB and advised them that the
Screen Reader is not an option and should not even be available.  I never
selected it for my students and am unsure how it got there to begin with. I
also had to go into every 6-8 Reading session and remove the accommodation
for my special education students.  I have not checked my EOI students yet.
You are not the only one!

 

Mrs. Dru Svitak, Elementary Counselor & District Test Coordinator

Watonga Elementary School

900 North Leach, P.O. Box 640

Watonga, Oklahoma 73772

Main: (580) 623-5248

Fax: (580) 623-5238

 

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net
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Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 7:48 AM
To: OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Subject: [Counselors] 6th -8th Online Reading Students w/ Screen Reader
Feature getting kicked off

 

Tuesday was our first day of online testing (Reading), our Special students
continued to get a message "EXIT TEST"  as soon as they logged in and pushed
start.  We called CTB and they could not give us an answer on how to fix
this.    I had told them that the students effected all had the "screen
reader"  option checked on the accommodation page.. (This is not Subject
specific on CTB's system). I had even called last week when I ran my summary
page because it showed on my Reading Summary Sheet that I had students with
the screen reader feature and I knew this was NOT AN OPTION. 

Yesterday I decided to "uncheck" the screen reader option and see what
happened.  

All of my students were able to log in and take their Reading test without
any issues.  

I will now go back and "recheck" screen reader for their Math test and see
what happens next week.  

I called a friend at another district yesterday and said she had ran into
the same issue. (CTB had given me the impression I was the only one with
this issue.)

 

Just thought I would post this in case any of you had the same problem.  

 

Happy Testing!

 

Kerri Perry 

Bridge Creek Middle

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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 12:04:21 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Protocol for Suicidal/Self Harming Students
Message-ID: <mailman.641.1398359127.2121.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

Would anyone be willing to share the protocols you have in place to use
when you have a student who confides that he/she is suicidal or that he/she
is self-harming? Thanks in advance!

-- 
Amber Wood, BBA, M.Ed.
School Counselor
Buffalo Public Schools <http://www.buffalo.k12.ok.us>
Phone: 580-735-2448 X234
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 17:18:00 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Protocol for Suicidal/Self Harming Students
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I have a lot. Will send as soon as I can. We have our district policy that we wrote last year, which a lot of schools are using, and we have specific forms to send home with parents and to medical professionals. I have a hard copy but am trying to get an electronic copy.

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Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 12:04 PM
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Subject: [Counselors] Protocol for Suicidal/Self Harming Students

Would anyone be willing to share the protocols you have in place to use when you have a student who confides that he/she is suicidal or that he/she is self-harming? Thanks in advance!

--
Amber Wood, BBA, M.Ed.
School Counselor
Buffalo Public Schools<http://www.buffalo.k12.ok.us>
Phone: 580-735-2448 X234
Fax: 580-735-2619

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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 12:26:40 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Protocol for Suicidal/Self Harming Students
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When you receive your electronic copy, would you send it to everyone. I
would like to see what other schools do as well! Thank you!!


On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 12:18 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

>  I have a lot. Will send as soon as I can. We have our district policy
> that we wrote last year, which a lot of schools are using, and we have
> specific forms to send home with parents and to medical professionals. I
> have a hard copy but am trying to get an electronic copy.
>
>
>
> *From:* counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:
> counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] *On Behalf Of *OSRHE EPAS PK-12
> Counselor Discussion Board
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 24, 2014 12:04 PM
> *To:* counselors at lists.onenet.net
> *Subject:* [Counselors] Protocol for Suicidal/Self Harming Students
>
>
>
> Would anyone be willing to share the protocols you have in place to use
> when you have a student who confides that he/she is suicidal or that he/she
> is self-harming? Thanks in advance!
>
> --
>
> Amber Wood, BBA, M.Ed.
>
> School Counselor
>
> Buffalo Public Schools <http://www.buffalo.k12.ok.us>
>
> Phone: 580-735-2448 X234
>
> Fax: 580-735-2619
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Apr 24 13:33:32 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 11:33:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Counselors] Protocol for Suicidal/Self Harming Students
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I would like a copy also please! We don't have a specific policy yet for this matter, but I know confidentiality has to be broken and this behavior reported to the parent and a trained therapist whose scope of training includes suicide and self harm. I am a recent graduate so all of this is still fresh on my mind from classes. I was taught this is outside of our scope of training so it HAS to be referred out. I hope to never have to encounter this, but I know, unfortunately, that is not likely.
Tina Jeffreys
Soper School
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On Thu, 4/24/14, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Counselors] Protocol for Suicidal/Self Harming Students
 To: "counselors at lists.onenet.net" <counselors at lists.onenet.net>
 Date: Thursday, April 24, 2014, 12:26 PM
 
 When you receive your
 electronic copy, would you send it to everyone. I would like
 to see what other schools do as well! Thank you!!
 
 On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at
 12:18 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I have a lot. Will
 send as soon as I can. We have our district policy that we
 wrote last year, which a lot of schools are using, and we
 have specific forms
  to send home with parents and to medical professionals. I
 have a hard copy but am trying to get an electronic
 copy.
 ?
 From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net
 [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net]
 On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
 Board
 
 Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 12:04 PM
 
 To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
 
 Subject: [Counselors] Protocol for Suicidal/Self
 Harming Students
 ?
 
 Would anyone be willing to
 share the protocols you have in place to use when you have a
 student who confides that he/she is suicidal or that he/she
 is self-harming? Thanks in advance!
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 
 
 Amber Wood,
 BBA, M.Ed.
 
 
 School
 Counselor
 
 
 Buffalo
 Public Schools
 
 
 Phone: 580-735-2448 X234
 
 
 Fax: 580-735-2619
 
 
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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 14:10:41 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Protocol for Suicidal/Self Harming Students
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would also like a copy of your policy.  I ALWAYS call a parent.  prefer for
them to come get the child and tell them they should not be left
unsupervised.  Sometimes kids will say that and have no idea why they said
that, they dont' have a plan to carry it out.  I still call, but usually
can tell if a student is serious or not.  I do usually share that with a
parent as well.




On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 1:33 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> I would like a copy also please! We don't have a specific policy yet for
> this matter, but I know confidentiality has to be broken and this behavior
> reported to the parent and a trained therapist whose scope of training
> includes suicide and self harm. I am a recent graduate so all of this is
> still fresh on my mind from classes. I was taught this is outside of our
> scope of training so it HAS to be referred out. I hope to never have to
> encounter this, but I know, unfortunately, that is not likely.
> Tina Jeffreys
> Soper School
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 4/24/14, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <
> counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [Counselors] Protocol for Suicidal/Self Harming Students
>  To: "counselors at lists.onenet.net" <counselors at lists.onenet.net>
>  Date: Thursday, April 24, 2014, 12:26 PM
>
>  When you receive your
>  electronic copy, would you send it to everyone. I would like
>  to see what other schools do as well! Thank you!!
>
>  On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at
>  12:18 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <
> counselors at lists.onenet.net>
>  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  I have a lot. Will
>  send as soon as I can. We have our district policy that we
>  wrote last year, which a lot of schools are using, and we
>  have specific forms
>   to send home with parents and to medical professionals. I
>  have a hard copy but am trying to get an electronic
>  copy.
>
>  From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net
>  [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net]
>  On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
>  Board
>
>  Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 12:04 PM
>
>  To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
>
>  Subject: [Counselors] Protocol for Suicidal/Self
>  Harming Students
>
>
>  Would anyone be willing to
>  share the protocols you have in place to use when you have a
>  student who confides that he/she is suicidal or that he/she
>  is self-harming? Thanks in advance!
>
>
>
>
>  --
>
>
>  Amber Wood,
>  BBA, M.Ed.
>
>
>  School
>  Counselor
>
>
>  Buffalo
>  Public Schools
>
>
>  Phone: 580-735-2448 X234
>
>
>  Fax: 580-735-2619
>
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Apr 24 15:09:26 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 15:09:26 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Protocol for Suicidal/Self Harming Students
In-Reply-To: <mailman.641.1398359127.2121.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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Automatic call to the DHS Abuse and Neglect Hotline.  1-800-522-3511

Calling from the counselor's office will give you computer access to
pertinent demographic info that will be requested from and helpful to DHS.

 

We have learned that three calls to DHS from different individuals speeds up
their response to your issue.  However, they have ALWAYS quickly checked
into reports I have made with regard to suicide.

 

First, however, I meet with the student privately.  We discuss the issue.
It's helpful to know how much planning the student has done.  When does he
plan to do it?  Where?  How?  How will he get there?  Etc.  The more you
know, the more DHS can help.

 

If the student will permit me, I take a picture in the event of cutting,
etc.  

 

DOCUMENT EVERYTHING!

 

Don't allow the student to be alone.  

 

I try to encourage the student to allow me to contact his parent.  Usually
the student will give you permission and then you don't have to worry about
whether or not you are breaking confidentiality.

 

Cindy Bryant, NBCT, M.Ed.

Idabel Middle School

Idabel, OK

 

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[mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12
Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 12:04 PM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: [Counselors] Protocol for Suicidal/Self Harming Students

 

Would anyone be willing to share the protocols you have in place to use when
you have a student who confides that he/she is suicidal or that he/she is
self-harming? Thanks in advance!

-- 

Amber Wood, BBA, M.Ed.

School Counselor

Buffalo Public Schools <http://www.buffalo.k12.ok.us> 

Phone: 580-735-2448 X234

Fax: 580-735-2619

 

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Apr 24 21:23:25 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 19:23:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Counselors] Protocol for Suicidal/Self Harming Students
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I don't know about protocol, but I always told my students when they visited with me, that if they shared anything that led me to believe they might harm themselves I was required to share that. I also never let them leave my office without promising me that they would not hurt themselves till I talked to them again. Sounds simple, but seemed to work. Many resources for Suicide Prevention. Nancy Reed, Keyes
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On Thu, 4/24/14, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

 Subject: [Counselors] Protocol for Suicidal/Self Harming Students
 To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
 Date: Thursday, April 24, 2014, 12:04 PM
 
 Would anyone be willing to
 share the protocols you have in place to use when you have a
 student who confides that he/she is suicidal or that he/she
 is self-harming? Thanks in advance!
 
 -- 
 
 Amber Wood, BBA,
 M.Ed.School
 CounselorBuffalo Public
 Schools
 Phone: 580-735-2448 X234Fax:
 580-735-2619
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Fri Apr 25 15:06:40 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 15:06:40 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Protocol for Suicidal/Self Harming Students
In-Reply-To: <mailman.809.1398432299.2121.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.641.1398359127.2121.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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Tarasoff Law " Duty to Warn." requires notification of authorities and any
person that the client is going to harm.  If the child has a plan you have
to warn.


Anna Marie Perdue
Wellston School Counselor
aperdue at wellstonschools.org
A Great teacher is still by far the most important factor in
determining a student's educational success!

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Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [Counselors] Protocol for Suicidal/Self Harming Students

I don't know about protocol, but I always told my students when they visited
with me, that if they shared anything that led me to believe they might harm
themselves I was required to share that. I also never let them leave my
office without promising me that they would not hurt themselves till I
talked to them again. Sounds simple, but seemed to work. Many resources for
Suicide Prevention. Nancy Reed, Keyes
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<counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

 Subject: [Counselors] Protocol for Suicidal/Self Harming Students
 To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
 Date: Thursday, April 24, 2014, 12:04 PM

 Would anyone be willing to
 share the protocols you have in place to use when you have a  student who
confides that he/she is suicidal or that he/she  is self-harming? Thanks in
advance!

 --

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 M.Ed.School
 CounselorBuffalo Public
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 580-735-2619
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Mon Apr 28 11:22:51 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 11:22:51 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] FYI 7th grade Measured Progress Field Test
In-Reply-To: <mailman.10740.1398169745.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.10740.1398169745.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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We have not done any of the Measured Progress testing yet.  Are the Math
and Reading test staying close to the timeframes listed?

Thanks!


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:27 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

>   Here is what we are finding today while taking 7th grade field Writing
> test from Measured Progress. The manual suggests it will take 90 minutes.
> It is taking at least 2 hours for our students to take after the
> instructions are read. For students who haven't had keyboarding it is one
> key stroke at a time and very long.
>
>  Ginger Cummins
> Seminole Middle School Counselor
> gcummins at sps.k12.ok.us
> Phone 405.382.5065
> Fax 405.382.8653
>
>
>
>
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Tue Apr 29 10:38:32 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:38:32 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] FYI 7th grade Measured Progress Field Test
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Math is taking about an hour. Reading and Writing are taking about 2 hours.


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 11:22 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> We have not done any of the Measured Progress testing yet.  Are the Math
> and Reading test staying close to the timeframes listed?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:27 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
> Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
>>   Here is what we are finding today while taking 7th grade field Writing
>> test from Measured Progress. The manual suggests it will take 90 minutes.
>> It is taking at least 2 hours for our students to take after the
>> instructions are read. For students who haven't had keyboarding it is one
>> key stroke at a time and very long.
>>
>>  Ginger Cummins
>> Seminole Middle School Counselor
>> gcummins at sps.k12.ok.us
>> Phone 405.382.5065
>> Fax 405.382.8653
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Counselors mailing list
>> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
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Grove School
Counselor
2800 N. Bryan Road
Shawnee, OK 74804
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Tue Apr 29 11:22:16 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 11:22:16 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] FYI 7th grade Measured Progress Field Test
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What about the CTB EOI Try-outs?  Anyone tried those yet?  We have to give
Alg 1, Alg 2 and Geom...  Anyone know time frame on administration of those?



On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:38 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> Math is taking about an hour. Reading and Writing are taking about 2 hours.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 11:22 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
> Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
>> We have not done any of the Measured Progress testing yet.  Are the Math
>> and Reading test staying close to the timeframes listed?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:27 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
>> Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>>
>>>   Here is what we are finding today while taking 7th grade field
>>> Writing test from Measured Progress. The manual suggests it will take 90
>>> minutes. It is taking at least 2 hours for our students to take after the
>>> instructions are read. For students who haven't had keyboarding it is one
>>> key stroke at a time and very long.
>>>
>>>  Ginger Cummins
>>> Seminole Middle School Counselor
>>> gcummins at sps.k12.ok.us
>>> Phone 405.382.5065
>>> Fax 405.382.8653
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Counselors mailing list
>>> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
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>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors
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>
>
> --
> *Angela Jones*
> Grove School
> Counselor
> 2800 N. Bryan Road
> Shawnee, OK 74804
> 405.275.7435
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
Jill Moery
Guidance Counselor
Hennessey High School

Phone:  405.853.4394 ext.222
Fax:  405.853.4644
Email: jmoery at hps.k12.ok.us
HHS website <http://hhs.hps.k12.ok.us/>
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Tue Apr 29 11:33:25 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 11:33:25 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] FYI 7th grade Measured Progress Field Test
In-Reply-To: <mailman.118.1398788604.2048.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.10740.1398169745.1684.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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Not to bad. We are doing Alg II now. 12 questions maybe 20 mins.?


On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:22 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> What about the CTB EOI Try-outs?  Anyone tried those yet?  We have to give
> Alg 1, Alg 2 and Geom...  Anyone know time frame on administration of those?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:38 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
> Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
>> Math is taking about an hour. Reading and Writing are taking about 2
>> hours.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 11:22 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
>> Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> We have not done any of the Measured Progress testing yet.  Are the Math
>>> and Reading test staying close to the timeframes listed?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:27 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
>>> Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   Here is what we are finding today while taking 7th grade field
>>>> Writing test from Measured Progress. The manual suggests it will take 90
>>>> minutes. It is taking at least 2 hours for our students to take after the
>>>> instructions are read. For students who haven't had keyboarding it is one
>>>> key stroke at a time and very long.
>>>>
>>>>  Ginger Cummins
>>>> Seminole Middle School Counselor
>>>> gcummins at sps.k12.ok.us
>>>> Phone 405.382.5065
>>>> Fax 405.382.8653
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Counselors mailing list
>>>> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
>>>> http://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
>>> http://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Angela Jones*
>> Grove School
>> Counselor
>> 2800 N. Bryan Road
>> Shawnee, OK 74804
>> 405.275.7435
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Counselors mailing list
>> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
>> http://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Jill Moery
> Guidance Counselor
> Hennessey High School
>
> Phone:  405.853.4394 ext.222
> Fax:  405.853.4644
> Email: jmoery at hps.k12.ok.us
> HHS website <http://hhs.hps.k12.ok.us/>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Blake Crawford
Pryor HS Counselor
p: 918-825-3902
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Tue Apr 29 13:29:54 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 13:29:54 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] (no subject)
Message-ID: <mailman.197.1398801546.2048.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

We did 3rd grade Reading test this morning.  I still had 12 of my 225 3rd
graders working on it 2 1/2 hours later.  Relocated them & at 3 hours I had
four quit working on them & sent them to lunch.  My first full class done
was almost 2 hours. The writing responses to the Reading question are
stumping them.

Kay Gilchrist
3rd & 4th Counselor
Academy Elm
Guymon, OK
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Tue Apr 29 14:00:41 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:00:41 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] FYI 7th grade Measured Progress Field Test
In-Reply-To: <mailman.105.1398786225.2048.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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The Item Tryout math test for 8th graders: Does anyone know if ALL 8th graders take it (including the Algebra I 8th graders) or only those enrolled in 8th grade math?

-----Original Message-----
From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <counselors at lists.onenet.net>
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Date: 04/29/14 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Counselors] FYI 7th grade Measured Progress Field Test

Math is taking about an hour. Reading and Writing are taking about 2 hours.
?

On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 11:22 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
?
We have not done any of the Measured Progress testing yet.  Are the Math and Reading test staying close to the timeframes listed?


Thanks!
?
?

?
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:27 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
?

?

Here is what we are finding today while taking 7th grade field Writing test from Measured Progress. The manual suggests it will take 90 minutes. It is taking at least 2 hours for our students to take after the instructions are read. For students who haven't had keyboarding it is one key stroke at a time and very long.
 
 Ginger Cummins
Seminole Middle School Counselor
gcummins at sps.k12.ok.us
Phone 405.382.5065
Fax 405.382.8653


?

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--
?
Angela Jones
Grove School?
Counselor
2800 N. Bryan Road
Shawnee, OK 74804
405.275.7435


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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Tue Apr 29 15:34:34 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 20:34:34 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] FYI 7th grade Measured Progress Field Test
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I was told by measured progress that all 8th graders take it regardless of what class they are enrolled in

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 29, 2014, at 2:58 PM, "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>> wrote:

The Item Tryout math test for 8th graders: Does anyone know if ALL 8th graders take it (including the Algebra I 8th graders) or only those enrolled in 8th grade math?
________________________________
-----Original Message-----
From: "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" <counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>>
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>
Date: 04/29/14 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Counselors] FYI 7th grade Measured Progress Field Test

Math is taking about an hour. Reading and Writing are taking about 2 hours.


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 11:22 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>> wrote:

We have not done any of the Measured Progress testing yet. Are the Math and Reading test staying close to the timeframes listed?

Thanks!




On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:27 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>> wrote:


Here is what we are finding today while taking 7th grade field Writing test from Measured Progress. The manual suggests it will take 90 minutes. It is taking at least 2 hours for our students to take after the instructions are read. For students who haven't had keyboarding it is one key stroke at a time and very long.

Ginger Cummins
Seminole Middle School Counselor
gcummins at sps.k12.ok.us<mailto:gcummins at sps.k12.ok.us>
Phone 405.382.5065<http://tel:405.382.5065>
Fax 405.382.8653<http://tel:405.382.8653>





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--

Angela Jones
Grove School
Counselor
2800 N. Bryan Road
Shawnee, OK 74804
405.275.7435




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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Tue Apr 29 14:54:03 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 19:54:03 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] PERSONAL FINANCIAL LITERACY
Message-ID: <mailman.280.1398819886.2048.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

Clarification please:
If we have a class called Personal Financial Literacy, does the paperwork have to be completed on the 14 standards?

My understanding is the paperwork is only filled out if the class is embedded in another course.
Thank you!

Alicia Brierton
Guidance Counselor
MacArthur High School
Office: 580 355 5230 Ext. 459
Fax: 580 585 6434
"For I know the plans I have for you?to give you a future full of hope.?

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Tue Apr 29 22:13:58 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 03:13:58 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] MS Counselor position opening in Broken Bow
Message-ID: <mailman.286.1398827826.2048.counselors@lists.onenet.net>


Middle School Counselor/Building Test Coordinator position open for Rector Johnson Middle School in Broken Bow.  Contact Belinda Highful, Principal, at bmhighful at bbisd.org<mailto:bmhighful at bbisd.org>


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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr 30 05:23:20 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 03:23:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Counselors] Dropping a Concurrent Class
In-Reply-To: <mailman.280.1398819886.2048.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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What do you do on a student's high school transcript if the student withdraws from a class in the middle of the semester?
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr 30 08:06:12 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 13:06:12 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Testing Videos
Message-ID: <mailman.323.1398863673.2048.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

Good morning Counselors,
I hope that you are seeing over the mountain the beautiful day that is in store, please make a tunnel through the piles of papers on your desk to see it and don't forget to breathe!

I apologize to the ladies for not sending this out 3 weeks ago when they sent it but you all were too busy with testing to enjoy it so now maybe you can enjoy the following videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVVx0lU6ryg  Rector Johnson Middle School Students from Broken Bow performing to the song "What does the Test say!"  A fantastic job by the students and all involved!  Kelly Jennings is the counselor.

http://vimeo.com/90603566 Teachers from Shoreview, Minnesota, presenting a video on testing to the song "Let it Go". The snow there looks warmer than here today!  Sent from Jana Webb.

I hope that you have a great Wednesday!  Stay warm (can you believe that I'm saying that on the last day of April?)

I hope to see you at our Summer Institute July 21-24 at Quartz Mountain.  Here is the link to register:  http://www.okhighered.org/epas/prof-dev.shtml#summer
Have a super, fun filled day! (Pretend anyway!)

Lisa Nelson
Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education
Field Coordinator for Student Preparation
Cell phone: 580.614.1328
lnelson at osrhe.edu<mailto:lnelson at osrhe.edu>
www.okhighered.org/epas<http://www.okhighered.org/epas>

"The kids who need the most love will ask for it in the most unloving ways."  ~ Dr. Russell Barkley


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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr 30 08:26:32 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 13:26:32 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] sexting intervention
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Does anyone have any resources to address sexting at the middle school level?  With only 16 days of school left, I am in quick need of educational/emotional/legal intervention before the Summer Break.
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr 30 09:21:13 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:21:13 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] sexting intervention
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References: <75EE9BA7A0BA46DEBD2E7EC04406F486@pioneer.local>
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I have a Human Relations Media DVD and unit materials called: "B Careful When you Txt: The Dangers of Testing and Sexting.  If you would like to look at the lessons let me know.
It is geared for MS and HS. 
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gcummins at sps.k12.ok.us
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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:54:49 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Dropping a Concurrent Class
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Since you have put in and end date of the day they withdrew it won't show
up on their transcript. They also do not receive credit in a new class
since they would be entering after the 10 day rule for credit.


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:23 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

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> What do you do on a student's high school transcript if the student
> withdraws from a class in the middle of the semester?
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr 30 09:48:46 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:48:46 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Testing Videos
In-Reply-To: <mailman.323.1398863673.2048.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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Bridge Creek Middle School.  We are seeing the light at the end of the
tunnel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te5pkxuuzsU




On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:06 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

>  Good morning Counselors,
>
> I hope that you are seeing over the mountain the beautiful day that is in
> store, please make a tunnel through the piles of papers on your desk to see
> it and don?t forget to breathe!
>
>
>
> I apologize to the ladies for not sending this out 3 weeks ago when they
> sent it but you all were too busy with testing to enjoy it so now maybe you
> can enjoy the following videos:
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVVx0lU6ryg  Rector Johnson Middle School
> Students from Broken Bow performing to the song ?What does the Test say!?
> A fantastic job by the students and all involved!  Kelly Jennings is the
> counselor.
>
>
>
> http://vimeo.com/90603566 Teachers from Shoreview, Minnesota, presenting
> a video on testing to the song ?Let it Go?. The snow there looks warmer
> than here today!  Sent from Jana Webb.
>
>
>
> I hope that you have a great Wednesday!  Stay warm (can you believe that
> I?m saying that on the last day of April?)
>
>
>
> I hope to see you at our Summer Institute July 21-24 at Quartz Mountain.
> Here is the link to register:
> http://www.okhighered.org/epas/prof-dev.shtml#summer
>
> Have a super, fun filled day! (Pretend anyway!)
>
>
>
> *Lisa Nelson*
>
> Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education
>
> Field Coordinator for Student Preparation
>
> Cell phone: 580.614.1328
>
> lnelson at osrhe.edu
>
> www.okhighered.org/epas
>
>
>
> ?*The kids who need the most love will ask for it in the most unloving
> ways.?*  ~ *Dr. Russell Barkley*
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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 10:40:26 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Dropping a Concurrent Class
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I didn't put the withdrawal on the transcript.  I put the student on
academic probation and told them that if they dropped anything else, they
wouldn't be allowed to take anymore concurrent classes.  We made that a
district decision.

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            What do you do on a student's high school transcript if the
student withdraws from a class in the middle of the semester?



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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 12:18:40 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Fine Arts/Speech Credit
Message-ID: <mailman.435.1398873822.2048.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

 

How are other small school handling the Fine Arts or Speech Credit?  What
class are you offering to meet this credit and at what level?

 

Nona Laminack

Big Pasture School Counselor & Assistant Principal 

PO Box 167

Randlett, OK 73562

(580) 281-3276

 <mailto:nlaminack at bigpastureps.k12.ok.us> nlaminack at bigpastureps.k12.ok.us 

 

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr 30 11:30:20 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 11:30:20 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Fine Arts/Speech Credit
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We offer drama and art as well as Ag Communications  for a fine art
credits. I hope this helps!

Shyanne Gatrost
Pawnee High School Counselor
918-762-3676


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 12:18 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

>   How are other small school handling the Fine Arts or Speech Credit?
> What class are you offering to meet this credit and at what level?
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> *Nona Laminack*
>
> *Big Pasture School Counselor & Assistant Principal *
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> PO Box 167
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> Randlett, OK 73562
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> (580) 281-3276
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr 30 12:16:08 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:16:08 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Dropping a Concurrent Class
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If a student withdraws before they earn the NC at the college, we will tell them they have to return to the building or pick up a second session fast track course. If they earn the NC we post it, if they come back to the building and have  passed the 10 day rule, we post a NC but they have to come to school.




Becky Copeland
Counselor, H-O
Owasso High School
Direct Line: 918-272-8030
FAX: 918-272-8028
becky.copeland at owasso.k12.ok.us<mailto:becky.copeland at owasso.k12.ok.us>


Please visit the Owasso High School Homepage for information about scholarships, ACT deadlines, etc...
www.owasso.k12.ok.us<http://www.owasso.k12.ok.us/>


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What do you do on a student's high school transcript if the student withdraws from a class in the middle of the semester?
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr 30 12:18:14 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 12:18:14 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Fine Arts/Speech Credit
In-Reply-To: <mailman.435.1398873822.2048.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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Speech or Drama or Ag Communications through the Ag department and then they
take a Speech test at the end of the course.

 

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Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 12:19 PM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: [Counselors] Fine Arts/Speech Credit

 

How are other small school handling the Fine Arts or Speech Credit?  What
class are you offering to meet this credit and at what level?

 

Nona Laminack

Big Pasture School Counselor & Assistant Principal 

PO Box 167

Randlett, OK 73562

(580) 281-3276

nlaminack at bigpastureps.k12.ok.us 

 



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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr 30 12:26:58 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:26:58 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Dropping a Concurrent Class
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References: <mailman.280.1398819886.2048.counselors@lists.onenet.net>,
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Ok. How do you handle their high school transcript? They get a NC but do you average that into the high GPA? What class do you put them in at the high school, an elective? This is for a college class that isn't needed for high school graduation requirements.

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 12:16 PM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Dropping a Concurrent Class


If a student withdraws before they earn the NC at the college, we will tell them they have to return to the building or pick up a second session fast track course. If they earn the NC we post it, if they come back to the building and have  passed the 10 day rule, we post a NC but they have to come to school.



Becky Copeland
Counselor, H-O
Owasso High School
Direct Line: 918-272-8030
FAX: 918-272-8028
becky.copeland at owasso.k12.ok.us<mailto:becky.copeland at owasso.k12.ok.us>


Please visit the Owasso High School Homepage for information about scholarships, ACT deadlines, etc...
www.owasso.k12.ok.us<http://www.owasso.k12.ok.us/>


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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr 30 12:57:07 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:57:07 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Dropping a Concurrent Class
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We immediately enroll them in classes at school-as close to what they were enrolled in. They start with the grade they had in their concurrent enrollment class.

If the student does not tell us, and we find out when we receive the report from the college, the student receives an "N" for each class we dropped.

(We drop two school classes for one concurrent class; three school classes for two concurrent classes.)

Thanks, Alicia


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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:57:50 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Dropping a Concurrent Class
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How does an N figure into the GPA?

From: counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 12:57 PM
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We immediately enroll them in classes at school-as close to what they were enrolled in. They start with the grade they had in their concurrent enrollment class.

If the student does not tell us, and we find out when we receive the report from the college, the student receives an "N" for each class we dropped.

(We drop two school classes for one concurrent class; three school classes for two concurrent classes.)

Thanks, Alicia


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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr 30 13:00:54 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 18:00:54 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Dropping a Concurrent Class
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An N is an F. The students sign a contract with all of this information on it.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 12:58 PM
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How does an N figure into the GPA?

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We immediately enroll them in classes at school-as close to what they were enrolled in. They start with the grade they had in their concurrent enrollment class.

If the student does not tell us, and we find out when we receive the report from the college, the student receives an "N" for each class we dropped.

(We drop two school classes for one concurrent class; three school classes for two concurrent classes.)

Thanks, Alicia


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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr 30 13:03:28 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 18:03:28 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Protocol for suicide/self-harming students
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References: <8DD76B7FB621AC409D7CE57771C370735EC24098@Drake.osrhe.edu>
 <8DD76B7FB621AC409D7CE57771C370735EC24304@Drake.osrhe.edu>
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The attachments are the suicide protocol documents that Putnam City uses, shared by Staci Wayant.

Lisa Nelson
Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education
Field Coordinator for Student Preparation
Cell phone: 580.614.1328
lnelson at osrhe.edu<mailto:lnelson at osrhe.edu>
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr 30 13:46:12 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 18:46:12 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Fine Arts/Speech Credit
Message-ID: <mailman.517.1398883596.2048.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

Kingfisher incorporates the list of competencies into the English III and English IV classes.  Then on our transcripts, English III (FA) and English
IV (FA) is denoted.
Oklahoma's Promise will take that as a fine arts as well;  however, per Lynn Dennis, for OK Promise the grade is not counted twice.  To calculate the core GPA, you would divide by 32 grades instead of 34.


Karee Patterson
Kingfisher


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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr 30 14:15:27 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 19:15:27 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] embedded comptencies/credits
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I would like to see an example of a course description with embedded competencies specifically for art embedded into world history if anyone has one.
Thanks!

Carrie Jo Willis
Counselor
Keys High School
26622 S. 520 Rd.
Park Hill, OK  74451
phone (918) 458-1835
      fax (918) 456-7502
[Cougar Logo red and black]



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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr 30 14:18:31 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 19:18:31 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Counseling position open in Guymon
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Counselors,
Guymon is looking for a junior high counselor.  If interested, please contact the principal, Claudia Winters, claudia.winters at guymontigers.com<mailto:claudia.winters at guymontigers.com>.

Lisa Nelson
Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education
Field Coordinator for Student Preparation
Cell phone: 580.614.1328
lnelson at osrhe.edu<mailto:lnelson at osrhe.edu>
www.okhighered.org/epas<http://www.okhighered.org/epas>

"The kids who need the most love will ask for it in the most unloving ways."  ~ Dr. Russell Barkley


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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr 30 15:22:32 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:22:32 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Counseling position open in Guymon
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As a Guymon counselor for grades 11-12, I will attest to it being a great
place to work. Don't let the distance scare you!! Students are great to
work with and for! As financial perks, we are payed $2,000 above step and
we also get a $3,400 counselor stipend to work 10 extra days beyond the
school calendar.  The position is for 7th and 8th grade and no others. This
is my 8th year and have been blessed and excited to come to work 7 of them!
(The 2nd year was a bit rough but has completely been taken care of since
that time.)  The other counselors are a blessing to work with and have a
wealth of knowledge that they willingly share when needed.

Feel free to ask any questions you may have and I'll do my best to give the
information you request.
dana.martin at guymontigers.com

Come join us!!
Dana


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 2:18 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

>  Counselors,
>
> Guymon is looking for a junior high counselor.  If interested, please
> contact the principal, Claudia Winters, claudia.winters at guymontigers.com.
>
>
>
> *Lisa Nelson*
>
> Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education
>
> Field Coordinator for Student Preparation
>
> Cell phone: 580.614.1328
>
> lnelson at osrhe.edu
>
> www.okhighered.org/epas
>
>
>
> ?*The kids who need the most love will ask for it in the most unloving
> ways.?*  ~ *Dr. Russell Barkley*
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Counselors mailing list
> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
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-- 
Dana Martin, M.Ed.
11th & 12th Counselor
Guymon High School
PO Box 1307
2002 N. James
Guymon, OK 73942
(580) 338-4350
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Apr 30 16:34:21 2014
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 21:34:21 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Fine Arts/Speech Credit
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Please note that if you are embedding fine art credit into another class, the teacher who teaches it must be certified and highly qualified to teach the fine art credit as well as the class inwhich it is embedded per the state department.


Sent from my U.S. Cellular? Smartphone


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From: OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Date:04/30/2014 11:04 AM (GMT-06:00)
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Subject: [Counselors] Fine Arts/Speech Credit


How are other small school handling the Fine Arts or Speech Credit?  What class are you offering to meet this credit and at what level?

Nona Laminack
Big Pasture School Counselor & Assistant Principal
PO Box 167
Randlett, OK 73562
(580) 281-3276
nlaminack at bigpastureps.k12.ok.us<mailto:nlaminack at bigpastureps.k12.ok.us>

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