From counselors at lists.onenet.net Mon Apr 10 09:26:40 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 14:26:40 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] Engineering Scholarship Deadline Approaching In-Reply-To: <17038259.1688@public.govdelivery.com> References: <17038259.1688@public.govdelivery.com> Message-ID: I received this scholarship this morning. It is due by next Monday, April 17. Wanted to make sure everyone saw this-make sure your county is on the list before you send out to your students. Have a great day! From: OK State Dept of Ed [mailto:OKSDE at public.govdelivery.com] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 8:32 AM To: Nelson, Lisa Subject: Engineering Scholarship Deadline Approaching Having trouble viewing this email? View it as a Web page. [Bookmark and Share] The Oklahoma City Chapter of The Society of Petroleum Engineers (SPE) offers two types of scholarships to graduating seniors to be awarded for the 2017-18 Freshmen year of College. The applicants must reside in SPE's Oklahoma City coverage area, which is listed below by county. Alfalfa Coal Greer Love Pontotoc Beckham Custer Hughes McClain Pottowatomie Blaine Dewey Johnston Major Roger Mills Caddo Ellis Kingfisher Marshall Seminole Canadian Garfield Kiowa Murray Washita Carter Garvin Lincoln Okfuskee Woods Cleveland Grady Logan Oklahoma Woodward For the graduating high school seniors to qualify for the scholarships, the candidates must either be 1) pursuing a Petroleum Engineering Degree or 2) the Son or Daughter of a current SPE Member and enrolled in a math or science program. SPE has distributed these scholarships since 1998 and the program has been a huge success. We need your help in finding talented young people. Successful candidates will exhibit superior communication skills and display ability in math and the sciences. The awards will be distributed when the recipient is registered and declared as a full time college freshman in an accredited university. Applications must be received by April 17th. Candidates will be notified by May 2nd of their application status. An awards luncheon will be held on Thursday May 18th at the monthly SPE Luncheon in Oklahoma City. SPE appreciates your assistance in distributing this information to qualified High School seniors and Petroleum Engineering Students. Please contact the undersigned if you have further questions. Further information can be found at www.speokc.org or contact me directly at mclark at cudd.com. Email in pdf format (preferred) or Mail (1) application, (2) appraisal form and (3) certified transcript to: OKC - SPE Scholarship Committee c/o Mike Clark Cudd Energy Services 100 N. Broadway, Ste 2500 Oklahoma City OK 73102 Ofc: (405) 842-2800 Email: mclark at cudd.com Web: www.speokc.org The application is attached to this email. * 2017+SPE+Scholarship+High+School+Application.doc [bird image] [blue footer] [gov icon] [twitter icon] [facebook icon] [flicr icon] [vimeo icon] [youtube icon] [end of footer image] SUBSCRIBER SERVICES: Manage Preferences | Unsubscribe | Delete Profile | Help | Questions: Contact Us ________________________________ This email was sent to lnelson at osrhe.edu using GovDelivery, on behalf of: OK State Dept of Ed * 2500 North Lincoln Boulevard * Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 73105-4599 * 1-800-439-1420 [Powered by GovDelivery] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From counselors at lists.onenet.net Thu Apr 13 08:03:08 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:03:08 -0500 Subject: [Counselors] Carl Perkins grant In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Our FCCLA teacher applied last year and received the technology grant for tablets. On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:59 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board wrote: > > > Has any school who has the Carl Perkins grant applied for any of the > supplemental grants? If so, which one and were you funded? Our school is > thinking about applying and had a few questions. > > > > Thanks for your help! > > -- > > *Kacee Poteet, MPH* > > Guidance Counselor, L-Z > > Bristow High School > > 918-367-2241 x 213 <(918)%20367-2241> > > _______________________________________________ > Counselors mailing list > Counselors at lists.onenet.net > https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From counselors at lists.onenet.net Thu Apr 13 13:44:46 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 18:44:46 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] Carl Perkins grant In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Our FACS program received the grant multiple times in the past for new technology. Anna Marie Perdue Wellston School Counselor aperdue at wellstonschools.org 405-356-2533 We have received several career development grants over the years. Each has had a slightly different focus, from enhanced advisory, to more family involvement. All have been successful. Lisa A. Reynolds | Dual/Concurrent Enrollment Coordinator Tulsa Public Schools, Secondary Pathways Department 3027 S. New Haven, Room 406, Tulsa, OK 74114 T: 918-746-6189 C: 918-202-4965 ​ reynoli at tulsaschools.org www.tulsaschools.org facebook.com/TulsaPublicSchools twitter: @tulsaschools at reynoli Our Director of Counseling, Sharon Heatly, applied and received it last year. I'm sure she'd be happy to help. Kristin Atchley, MS, LMFT Student Advocacy Coordinator Norman High School 911 W. Main, 73069 P: (405) 366-5812 F: 405-366-5975 Our FCCLA teacher applied last year and received the technology grant for tablets. On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:59 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board > wrote: Has any school who has the Carl Perkins grant applied for any of the supplemental grants? If so, which one and were you funded? Our school is thinking about applying and had a few questions. Thanks for your help! -- Kacee Poteet, MPH Guidance Counselor, L-Z Bristow High School 918-367-2241 x 213 _______________________________________________ Counselors mailing list Counselors at lists.onenet.net https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From counselors at lists.onenet.net Fri Apr 14 15:23:24 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 20:23:24 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] Makeup credits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am an elementary counselor trying to assist a family. The older student is a senior in high school and needs 2 credits to graduate. One is technology and one is biology. Is there a way for this student to take credits online? Is there a cost? Thanks! 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The older student is a senior in high school and needs 2 credits to graduate. One is technology and one is biology. Is there a way for this student to take credits online? Is there a cost? Thanks! Cherie Owen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From counselors at lists.onenet.net Mon Apr 17 12:56:35 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 17:56:35 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] Makeup credits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you can find a Technology Center near them with a drop-out recovery program, similar to our program here at SCORE in Lawton, then they might be able to help. Our program runs on block scheduling (6 weeks), and we would help a student like this in a similar situation. There are several online Oklahoma schools that I’m sure they can find; however, they probably aren’t taking students at this point. I don’t know if you are talking about helping them now or next school year. Here are some online schools our students have used prior to coming here: http://www.connectionsacademy.com/ https://oklahomavirtualhighschool.com/ http://epiccharterschools.org/ Great Plains Technology Center Valerie Fink Registrar/Counselor Great Plains Technology Center 4500 SW Lee Blvd Lawton, OK73505 Email: vfink at greatplains.edu Tel: 580-250-5638 The contents of this email message and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for addressee. The information may also be legally privileged. This transmission is sent in trust for the sole purpose of delivery to the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, any use, reproduction or dissemination of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify the sender. From: Counselors [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:23 PM To: counselors at lists.onenet.net; counselors at lists.onenet.net Subject: [Counselors] Makeup credits I am an elementary counselor trying to assist a family. The older student is a senior in high school and needs 2 credits to graduate. One is technology and one is biology. Is there a way for this student to take credits online? Is there a cost? Thanks! Cherie Owen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image890000.gif Type: image/png Size: 5425 bytes Desc: image890000.gif URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Please refer to this link for the state's requirements: http://sde.ok.gov/sde/sites/ok.gov.sde/files/College%20Prep%20Requirements%20_0.pdf Standards for Accreditation, page 44: http://sde.ok.gov/sde/sites/ok.gov.sde/files/documents/files/FINAL%20DRAFT%20accreditation%20standards%202014%20-%20Copy.pdf (C) The local board of education shall adopt policies and procedures pertaining to admission, placement, promotion, retention, and graduation requirements for students which shall be disseminated to students and parents/guardians. (Remember-shall means schools have to) Also remember that "ACE has been repealed in July 2016"- http://sde.ok.gov/sde/achieving-classroom-excellence-act-ace#Curriculum Below are responses from counselors. Have a great day! Lisa Nelson Assistant Director of Student Preparation Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education lnelson at osrhe.edu www.okhighered.org/student-prep Cell: 580.614.1328 "You never know when a moment and a few sincere words can have an impact on a life."~ Zig Ziglar I use the one for Oklahoma's Promise Duncan HS Kim Justus Senior Counselor Duncan High School 580-255-0700 ext 215 kim.justus at duncanps.org Carmella Murray Gore Public Schools murrayc at gorepublicschools.org Here is a one page checklist I'm using. It has some requirements specific to my district, so you'll need to make some adjustments if you decide to use it. Jane Reynolds Career Counselor Putnam City West 405-787-1140 x2326 This is what I use. When I got to Red Oak it was similar, but I made it to fit us here. Hope this helps. Trina Renfrow Counselor Red Oak Schools -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm sorry I cannot give proper credit to those whose ideas/formats/forms I used/stole from/was inspired by! Sally *Sally Randolph* Counselor, A-J *Skiatook High School* Skiatook, OK 918.396.1790 Ext 2409 *"Everybody can be great...because anybody can serve." -Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.* We are implementing an Alt Ed for credit recovery using the Supplemental Courses that you can purchase through the letter that the State sent out. Here is the link to look it up. It requires form $199 to $300+ per Course. https://osocp.ok.gov/ Marsha Hinchee On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 12:56 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board > wrote: If you can find a Technology Center near them with a drop-out recovery program, similar to our program here at SCORE in Lawton, then they might be able to help. Our program runs on block scheduling (6 weeks), and we would help a student like this in a similar situation. There are several online Oklahoma schools that I’m sure they can find; however, they probably aren’t taking students at this point. I don’t know if you are talking about helping them now or next school year. Here are some online schools our students have used prior to coming here: http://www.connectionsacademy.com/ https://oklahomavirtualhighschool.com/ http://epiccharterschools.org/ [Great Plains Technology Center] [cid:image538001.png at 98EF9275.6F64C04A] Valerie Fink Registrar/Counselor Great Plains Technology Center 4500 SW Lee Blvd Lawton, OK 73505 Email: vfink at greatplains.edu Tel: 580-250-5638 [cid:image655002.png at 2DC3860F.52C58245] The contents of this email message and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for addressee. The information may also be legally privileged. This transmission is sent in trust for the sole purpose of delivery to the intended recipient. 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From: Sally Randolph Subject: Re: [Counselors] Graduation Checklists Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 16:34:26 +0000 Size: 93615 URL: From counselors at lists.onenet.net Wed Apr 19 10:40:01 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 15:40:01 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] Bullying In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Second Step (Committee for Children, early learning – 8th grade) helps with social-emotional skills and is based on current research. http://www.cfchildren.org/second-step Olweus (pronounced Oh-vay-us) is a bullying prevention program with curriculum for elementary, middle, and high school levels. It is also based on empirical research. http://www.violencepreventionworks.org/public/olweus_bullying_prevention_program.page I personally think if you’re going to teach bully prevention, you should also teach social-emotional skills. Biv Geno Oklahoma City From: Counselors [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 9:33 AM To: counselors at lists.onenet.net Subject: [Counselors] Bullying Hello, My boss and I were discussing bullying programs for next year. Do you guys have any recommendations? We'd like something with activities. Thanks, Misty McCullough Burlington School Counselor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From counselors at lists.onenet.net Thu Apr 20 21:48:44 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 02:48:44 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] Counselor Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is there someone that uses an iPad at the counselor's door for students to "login" on a google form? I heard about that somewhere and didn't want to reinvent the wheel so to speak. It's for tracking data such as who did you see that day, what service did you provide, was the service counseling related, etc. I'm going to try to be more data driven next year and I wanted to mess around with it before next year. Sharla Sharp, NBCT Covington-Douglas Schools School Counselor School Psychometrist 400 East Main Street Covington, Ok 73730 (580) 864-7482 x114 www.cdwildcats.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From counselors at lists.onenet.net Mon Apr 24 13:19:14 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:19:14 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] Counselor Question Message-ID: Tommy Leach sent an email just after her monthly counselor newsletter went out a couple of months ago. You could look on her subsequent counselor newsletters or email her about where she found it. She sent a link to a blog from a counselor that uses one mounted to a stand so that the tablet cannot "walk-off" with a student. ​ Angela R. Livingston, M.S. alivingston at lg.k12.ok.us LGHS Counselor 918-479-5247 ext. 1127 There was an article about it in one of Tommi Leach's newsletters and then a breakout session this spring at the Counselor's only conference. Both gave examples. Here is what Tommi sent out: https://www.smore.com/fepw9-school-counseling-kiosk I have emailed Tommi for the person’s name at the Counselor’s Only conference. As soon as she replies, I will send it out. Lisa Nelson On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 9:48 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board wrote: Is there someone that uses an iPad at the counselor's door for students to "login" on a google form? I heard about that somewhere and didn't want to reinvent the wheel so to speak. It's for tracking data such as who did you see that day, what service did you provide, was the service counseling related, etc. I'm going to try to be more data driven next year and I wanted to mess around with it before next year. Sharla Sharp, NBCT Covington-Douglas Schools School Counselor School Psychometrist 400 East Main Street Covington, Ok 73730 (580) 864-7482 x114 www.cdwildcats.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From counselors at lists.onenet.net Mon Apr 24 13:35:36 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:35:36 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] Personal Financial Literacy Message-ID: What program if any do you use for personal financial literacy? Sharla Sharp, NBCT Covington-Douglas Schools School Counselor School Psychometrist 400 East Main Street Covington, Ok 73730 (580) 864-7482 x114 www.cdwildcats.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From counselors at lists.onenet.net Mon Apr 24 13:47:23 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:47:23 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] Personal Financial Literacy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Foolproof off of Tulsa Teachers Credit Union's website, http://www.foolproofoklahoma.com/ Dave Ramsey http://www.foolproofteacher.com/weokie/ http://sde.ok.gov/sde/personal-financial-literacy on SDE’s website What program if any do you use for personal financial literacy? 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Lots of videos. Good luck, June Woodall Foolproof off of Tulsa Teachers Credit Union's website, http://www.foolproofoklahoma.com/ Dave Ramsey http://www.foolproofteacher.com/weokie/ http://sde.ok.gov/sde/personal-financial-literacy on SDE’s website What program if any do you use for personal financial literacy? Sharla Sharp, NBCT Covington-Douglas Schools School Counselor School Psychometrist 400 East Main Street Covington, Ok 73730 (580) 864-7482 x114 www.cdwildcats.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From counselors at lists.onenet.net Mon Apr 24 13:51:15 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:51:15 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] Portal Message-ID: I was wondering if any of your school districts have used a portal system for student information. We would like to get away from enrollment packets. That way parents could fill out the information online and would have access to changes as well as we would as a school district. -- *Danielle Tucker, M. ED.* *Guidance Counselor* *Navajo Schools* *dtucker at navajo.k12.ok.us * *580-482-7742* *“Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever.”― Mahatma Gandhi* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From counselors at lists.onenet.net Mon Apr 24 14:45:07 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 19:45:07 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] Portal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We have just started using a system called "InfoSnap"...apparently its owned by Powerschool (Pearson). So far we've only used it for new students so they can enroll from home. We're supposed to be able to have parents update demographics by August so we'll see how that goes... sthompson at bixbyps.org We created our own online enrollment system using Google Docs. We basically started from scratch creating our own forms. We have a link to our enrollment form posted on our school website. It was a little time consuming at first, but totally worth it! ghuenergardt at shattuck.k12.ok.us On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 1:51 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board > wrote: I was wondering if any of your school districts have used a portal system for student information. We would like to get away from enrollment packets. That way parents could fill out the information online and would have access to changes as well as we would as a school district. -- Danielle Tucker, M. ED. Guidance Counselor Navajo Schools dtucker at navajo.k12.ok.us 580-482-7742 “Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever.” ― Mahatma Gandhi _______________________________________________ Counselors mailing list Counselors at lists.onenet.net https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From counselors at lists.onenet.net Mon Apr 24 14:46:36 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 14:46:36 -0500 Subject: [Counselors] Counselor Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you!!!!!!! On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 1:19 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board wrote: > Tommy Leach sent an email just after her monthly counselor newsletter went > out a couple of months ago. You could look on her subsequent counselor > newsletters or email her about where she found it. She sent a link to a > blog from a counselor that uses one mounted to a stand so that the tablet > cannot "walk-off" with a student. ​ > > > > Angela R. Livingston, M.S. > > alivingston at lg.k12.ok.us > > LGHS Counselor > > 918-479-5247 <(918)%20479-5247> > > ext. 1127 > > > > There was an article about it in one of Tommi Leach's newsletters and then > a breakout session this spring at the Counselor's only conference. Both > gave examples. > > > > Here is what Tommi sent out: https://www.smore.com/fepw9- > school-counseling-kiosk > > > > I have emailed Tommi for the person’s name at the Counselor’s Only > conference. As soon as she replies, I will send it out. > > Lisa Nelson > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 9:48 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion > > Board wrote: > > > > Is there someone that uses an iPad at the counselor's door for students to > "login" on a google form? I heard about that somewhere and didn't want to > reinvent the wheel so to speak. It's for tracking data such as who did you > see that day, what service did you provide, was the service counseling > related, etc. I'm going to try to be more data driven next year and I > wanted to mess around with it before next year. > > > > Sharla Sharp, NBCT > > Covington-Douglas Schools > > School Counselor > > School Psychometrist > > 400 East Main Street > > Covington, Ok 73730 > > (580) 864-7482 x114 <(580)%20864-7482> > > www.cdwildcats.com > > _______________________________________________ > Counselors mailing list > Counselors at lists.onenet.net > https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors > -- Sharla Sharp, NBCT Covington-Douglas Schools School Counselor School Psychometrist 400 East Main Street Covington, Ok 73730 (580) 864-7482 x114 www.cdwildcats.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It is free. > > On Apr 24, 2017 1:36 PM, "OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board" wrote: > > > > > What program if any do you use for personal financial literacy?  > > > > > > > > Sharla Sharp, NBCT > > > > Covington-Douglas Schools > > > > > > School Counselor > > > > > > School Psychometrist > > > > 400 East Main Street > > > > Covington, Ok 73730 > > > > (580) 864-7482 x114(tel:(580)%20864-7482) > > > > > > www.cdwildcats.com(http://www.cdwildcats.com/) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Counselors mailing list > > > > Counselors at lists.onenet.net > > > > https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From counselors at lists.onenet.net Tue Apr 25 13:10:32 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:10:32 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] Counselor Question Message-ID: I did some asking about the Google Doc forms and thanks to Cindy Lattimore, at Indian Capital Technology Center, she shared something from one of her school counselors: The following information is from Deloris Hearn at Muldrow, deloris.hearn at staff.muldrowps.org. She said you are welcome to email her if you have any questions. I have created a google form that can be accessed from any device with internet, not just iPads. I have created our form to be accessed by parents and teachers as well. We have linked it to our school website for ease of all involved. The computer stations that we have set up in our counseling center have two preset tabs (school web page and request to see a counselor) when students access the internet. We have found that we can call students from class as needed without them sitting and waiting for entire class periods while we are working with other students. I have come back to my office from testing to find students standing and waiting, out of class unnecessarily. Our staff likes the fact that this has cut down on class time lost. At the end of the year, we hope to access the google spreadsheet that is compiled from all of the google form entries, and get a breakdown of the number of students that sought our help for different reasons and the amount of time spent on each type of task. I have already created a copy of Muldrow counseling check in form and Muldrow counseling check in response spreadsheet, in hopes that I would be able to share with others in the future. I'm willing to answer any questions you or others may have about this topic because I see the benefit for both students and counselors alike. Win-Win!!!!! If I have not shared both documents with you correctly or you find some information that should be confidential, please let me know so that I can correct it immediately. On the spreadsheet, I added a couple of columns to the far right so that we counselors can document date, time in/out of each person and additional comments for future reference. Here are the links for her google docs: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1rDJZKxlVAbGFSMxN0K0ASM_GwxxI8S5KlCQ521z8wlU/edit?usp=sharing_eip&invite=CMuPu6ED&ts=58ff685c https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/167QzAz1vTt2f3nIQiFKg1_P2bcwatUBZsMFMMwzYTcM/edit?usp=sharing_eip&invite=CIy7vYgJ&ts=58ff6873 Lisa Nelson Assistant Director of Student Preparation Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education lnelson at osrhe.edu www.okhighered.org/student-prep Cell: 580.614.1328 “You never know when a moment and a few sincere words can have an impact on a life.”~ Zig Ziglar From: Counselors [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 3:39 PM To: counselors at lists.onenet.net Subject: Re: [Counselors] Counselor Question Thank you!!!!!!! On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 1:19 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board > wrote: Tommy Leach sent an email just after her monthly counselor newsletter went out a couple of months ago. You could look on her subsequent counselor newsletters or email her about where she found it. She sent a link to a blog from a counselor that uses one mounted to a stand so that the tablet cannot "walk-off" with a student. ​ Angela R. Livingston, M.S. alivingston at lg.k12.ok.us LGHS Counselor 918-479-5247 ext. 1127 There was an article about it in one of Tommi Leach's newsletters and then a breakout session this spring at the Counselor's only conference. Both gave examples. Here is what Tommi sent out: https://www.smore.com/fepw9-school-counseling-kiosk I have emailed Tommi for the person’s name at the Counselor’s Only conference. As soon as she replies, I will send it out. Lisa Nelson On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 9:48 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board > wrote: Is there someone that uses an iPad at the counselor's door for students to "login" on a google form? I heard about that somewhere and didn't want to reinvent the wheel so to speak. It's for tracking data such as who did you see that day, what service did you provide, was the service counseling related, etc. I'm going to try to be more data driven next year and I wanted to mess around with it before next year. Sharla Sharp, NBCT Covington-Douglas Schools School Counselor School Psychometrist 400 East Main Street Covington, Ok 73730 (580) 864-7482 x114 www.cdwildcats.com _______________________________________________ Counselors mailing list Counselors at lists.onenet.net https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors -- Sharla Sharp, NBCT Covington-Douglas Schools School Counselor School Psychometrist 400 East Main Street Covington, Ok 73730 (580) 864-7482 x114 www.cdwildcats.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From counselors at lists.onenet.net Tue Apr 25 14:07:12 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:07:12 -0500 Subject: [Counselors] Counselor Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good Afternoon, I hope everyone is almost finished with testing. My science teachers have been asked to purchase new science textbooks. It is not an adoption year, so they aren't sure what is available. We haven't had new textbooks in over 10 years. We are looking to improve our science test scores and wondered if anyone had a recommendation for a quality textbook to help our scores. Thanks! Stephanie Lee Prague Schools On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 1:10 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board wrote: > I did some asking about the Google Doc forms and thanks to Cindy > Lattimore, at Indian Capital Technology Center, she shared something from > one of her school counselors: > > > > The following information is from Deloris Hearn at Muldrow, > deloris.hearn at staff.muldrowps.org. She said you are welcome to email her > if you have any questions. > > > > I have created a google form that can be accessed from any device with > internet, not just iPads. I have created our form to be accessed by parents > and teachers as well. We have linked it to our school website for ease of > all involved. The computer stations that we have set up in our counseling > center have two preset tabs (school web page and request to see a > counselor) when students access the internet. > > > > We have found that we can call students from class as needed without them > sitting and waiting for entire class periods while we are working with > other students. I have come back to my office from testing to find students > standing and waiting, out of class unnecessarily. Our staff likes the fact > that this has cut down on class time lost. > > > > At the end of the year, we hope to access the google spreadsheet that is > compiled from all of the google form entries, and get a breakdown of the > number of students that sought our help for different reasons and the > amount of time spent on each type of task. I have already created a copy of > Muldrow counseling check in form and Muldrow counseling check in response > spreadsheet, in hopes that I would be able to share with others in the > future. I'm willing to answer any questions you or others may have about > this topic because I see the benefit for both students and counselors > alike. Win-Win!!!!! > > > > If I have not shared both documents with you correctly or you find some > information that should be confidential, please let me know so that I can > correct it immediately. On the spreadsheet, I added a couple of columns to > the far right so that we counselors can document date, time in/out of each > person and additional comments for future reference. > > > > Here are the links for her google docs: > > > > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1rDJZKxlVAbGFSMxN0K0ASM_ > GwxxI8S5KlCQ521z8wlU/edit?usp=sharing_eip&invite=CMuPu6ED&ts=58ff685c > > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/167QzAz1vTt2f3nIQiFKg1_ > P2bcwatUBZsMFMMwzYTcM/edit?usp=sharing_eip&invite=CIy7vYgJ&ts=58ff6873 > > > > > > *Lisa Nelson* > > Assistant Director of Student Preparation > > Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education > > lnelson at osrhe.edu > > www.okhighered.org/student-prep > > Cell: 580.614.1328 <(580)%20614-1328> > > > > *“You never know when a moment and a few sincere words can have an impact > on a life.”~ Zig Ziglar* > > > > *From:* Counselors [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] *On > Behalf Of *OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board > *Sent:* Monday, April 24, 2017 3:39 PM > *To:* counselors at lists.onenet.net > *Subject:* Re: [Counselors] Counselor Question > > > > Thank you!!!!!!! > > > > On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 1:19 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion > Board wrote: > > Tommy Leach sent an email just after her monthly counselor newsletter went > out a couple of months ago. You could look on her subsequent counselor > newsletters or email her about where she found it. She sent a link to a > blog from a counselor that uses one mounted to a stand so that the tablet > cannot "walk-off" with a student. ​ > > > > Angela R. Livingston, M.S. > > alivingston at lg.k12.ok.us > > LGHS Counselor > > 918-479-5247 <(918)%20479-5247> > > ext. 1127 > > > > There was an article about it in one of Tommi Leach's newsletters and then > a breakout session this spring at the Counselor's only conference. Both > gave examples. > > > > Here is what Tommi sent out: https://www.smore.com/fepw9- > school-counseling-kiosk > > > > I have emailed Tommi for the person’s name at the Counselor’s Only > conference. As soon as she replies, I will send it out. > > Lisa Nelson > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 9:48 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion > > Board wrote: > > > > Is there someone that uses an iPad at the counselor's door for students to > "login" on a google form? I heard about that somewhere and didn't want to > reinvent the wheel so to speak. It's for tracking data such as who did you > see that day, what service did you provide, was the service counseling > related, etc. I'm going to try to be more data driven next year and I > wanted to mess around with it before next year. > > > > Sharla Sharp, NBCT > > Covington-Douglas Schools > > School Counselor > > School Psychometrist > > 400 East Main Street > > Covington, Ok 73730 > > (580) 864-7482 x114 <(580)%20864-7482> > > www.cdwildcats.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Counselors mailing list > Counselors at lists.onenet.net > https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors > > > > > > -- > > Sharla Sharp, NBCT > Covington-Douglas Schools > > School Counselor > > School Psychometrist > 400 East Main Street > Covington, Ok 73730 > (580) 864-7482 x114 <(580)%20864-7482> > > www.cdwildcats.com > > _______________________________________________ > Counselors mailing list > Counselors at lists.onenet.net > https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors > -- *Have a great day!* *Stephanie Lee* *Prague Schools* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here is the link. http://www.act.org/content/act/en/products-and-services/the-act/registration/accommodations.html This only applies if he has documentation. Info about documentation is available at the same link. Hello Fellow Counselors, I have a bright student who carries a 3.7 who has test anxiety. He has difficulty with completing the English portion of the ACT's, and it is obvious anxiety is the issue- cold sweat, turning pale. Etc. He would like to enroll in concurrent courses and has plans to continue his education at Oklahoma State. Are there any resources or allowances for test anxiety? Thank you, Electa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From counselors at lists.onenet.net Thu Apr 27 14:05:07 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 14:05:07 -0500 Subject: [Counselors] Computer Classes Message-ID: First of all, thank you for always giving me great ideas and advice....seems like the more towards the end of the year we get the more I have questions on getting ready for next year! Our computer classes are lacking to say the least. We are getting a new teacher for next year but want to revamp our computer classes. Here are some of the classes we are looking at for next year computer applications 1 and 2, desktop publishing, and a web design. Do any of your schools have a GREAT curriculum for these classes. We are willing to buy programs, book, or both if needed. Thanks in advance, *Danielle Tucker, M. ED.* *Guidance Counselor* *Navajo Schools* *dtucker at navajo.k12.ok.us * *580-482-7742* *“Live as if you were to die tomorrow. 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Lisa Reynolds Tulsa Public Schools From: Counselors [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 9:04 AM To: counselors at lists.onenet.net Subject: [Counselors] Computer Classes First of all, thank you for always giving me great ideas and advice....seems like the more towards the end of the year we get the more I have questions on getting ready for next year! Our computer classes are lacking to say the least. We are getting a new teacher for next year but want to revamp our computer classes. Here are some of the classes we are looking at for next year computer applications 1 and 2, desktop publishing, and a web design. Do any of your schools have a GREAT curriculum for these classes. We are willing to buy programs, book, or both if needed. Thanks in advance, Danielle Tucker, M. ED. Guidance Counselor Navajo Schools dtucker at navajo.k12.ok.us 580-482-7742 “Live as if you were to die tomorrow. 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