From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Aug 30 08:52:07 2017
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 08:52:07 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Sending for a friend.
Message-ID: <mailman.73.1504101575.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

Good Afternoon--
We are having a G/T meeting this Thursday and my Superintendent suggested I
contact some counselor's to find out what test others use  to determine the
top 3%.  We use the NNAT 3 with 4th graders each year.  This is just my 3rd
year at Sentinel but I know we didn't have any qualifiers the last two
years.  I'd like to administer a test somewhere in middle school to catch
those who may have just missed the mark in 4th grade.  If you have time
(and believe me--I know you don't) would you mind sharing with me the test
you use to determine your top 3%?  Our list keeps shrinking-for both
categories.  I don't know if that's a trend you see or not.

Thanks for any assistance you can provide.  I do appreciate it.

Deborah Miller
Sentinel School Counselor
580-393-4727 <(580)%20393-4727>
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Aug 30 09:01:43 2017
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 09:01:43 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Sending for a friend.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.73.1504101575.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.73.1504101575.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.93.1504102730.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

We give the Iowa Test of Basic Skills.

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 8:52 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> Good Afternoon--
> We are having a G/T meeting this Thursday and my Superintendent suggested
> I contact some counselor's to find out what test others use  to
> determine the top 3%.  We use the NNAT 3 with 4th graders each year.  This
> is just my 3rd year at Sentinel but I know we didn't have any qualifiers
> the last two years.  I'd like to administer a test somewhere in middle
> school to catch those who may have just missed the mark in 4th grade.  If
> you have time (and believe me--I know you don't) would you mind sharing
> with me the test you use to determine your top 3%?  Our list keeps
> shrinking-for both categories.  I don't know if that's a trend you see or
> not.
>
> Thanks for any assistance you can provide.  I do appreciate it.
>
> Deborah Miller
> Sentinel School Counselor
> 580-393-4727 <(580)%20393-4727>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Counselors mailing list
> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
> https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors
>



-- 
Sharla Sharp, NBCT
Covington-Douglas Schools
School Counselor
School Psychometrist
400 East Main Street
Covington, Ok 73730
(580) 864-7482 x114
www.cdwildcats.com
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Aug 30 09:05:25 2017
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 09:05:25 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Sending for a friend.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.73.1504101575.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.73.1504101575.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.94.1504102740.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

At Arnett we use the CogAT in the 3rd grade.  We are experiencing the same
thing with our list getting shorter each year.

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 8:52 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> Good Afternoon--
> We are having a G/T meeting this Thursday and my Superintendent suggested
> I contact some counselor's to find out what test others use  to
> determine the top 3%.  We use the NNAT 3 with 4th graders each year.  This
> is just my 3rd year at Sentinel but I know we didn't have any qualifiers
> the last two years.  I'd like to administer a test somewhere in middle
> school to catch those who may have just missed the mark in 4th grade.  If
> you have time (and believe me--I know you don't) would you mind sharing
> with me the test you use to determine your top 3%?  Our list keeps
> shrinking-for both categories.  I don't know if that's a trend you see or
> not.
>
> Thanks for any assistance you can provide.  I do appreciate it.
>
> Deborah Miller
> Sentinel School Counselor
> 580-393-4727 <(580)%20393-4727>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Counselors mailing list
> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
> https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors
>



-- 
*Tonna Flanagan*
*Arnett School Counselor*
*PO Box 317*
*103 W. Haskell*
*Arnett, OK  73832*


580-885-7285 ext. 111
580-885-7307 fax
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Aug 30 09:12:32 2017
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 09:12:32 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Sending for a friend.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.73.1504101575.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.73.1504101575.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.95.1504102748.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

We give all Sixth graders the CoGat for Gifted placement.

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 8:52 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> Good Afternoon--
> We are having a G/T meeting this Thursday and my Superintendent suggested
> I contact some counselor's to find out what test others use  to
> determine the top 3%.  We use the NNAT 3 with 4th graders each year.  This
> is just my 3rd year at Sentinel but I know we didn't have any qualifiers
> the last two years.  I'd like to administer a test somewhere in middle
> school to catch those who may have just missed the mark in 4th grade.  If
> you have time (and believe me--I know you don't) would you mind sharing
> with me the test you use to determine your top 3%?  Our list keeps
> shrinking-for both categories.  I don't know if that's a trend you see or
> not.
>
> Thanks for any assistance you can provide.  I do appreciate it.
>
> Deborah Miller
> Sentinel School Counselor
> 580-393-4727 <(580)%20393-4727>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Counselors mailing list
> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
> https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors
>



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Tina Vercelli
Ardmore Middle School
Counselor

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Aug 30 09:03:10 2017
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 09:03:10 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Sending for a friend.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.73.1504101575.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.73.1504101575.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.96.1504102766.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

We use NNAT 3 also.

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 8:52 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> Good Afternoon--
> We are having a G/T meeting this Thursday and my Superintendent suggested
> I contact some counselor's to find out what test others use  to
> determine the top 3%.  We use the NNAT 3 with 4th graders each year.  This
> is just my 3rd year at Sentinel but I know we didn't have any qualifiers
> the last two years.  I'd like to administer a test somewhere in middle
> school to catch those who may have just missed the mark in 4th grade.  If
> you have time (and believe me--I know you don't) would you mind sharing
> with me the test you use to determine your top 3%?  Our list keeps
> shrinking-for both categories.  I don't know if that's a trend you see or
> not.
>
> Thanks for any assistance you can provide.  I do appreciate it.
>
> Deborah Miller
> Sentinel School Counselor
> 580-393-4727 <(580)%20393-4727>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Counselors mailing list
> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
> https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors
>
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Aug 30 09:21:58 2017
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 14:21:58 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] Sending for a friend.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.96.1504102766.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.73.1504101575.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>,
 <mailman.96.1504102766.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.104.1504102994.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

We give the CogAt also in Lawton Public Schools.

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
________________________________
From: Counselors <counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net> on behalf of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 9:03:10 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Sending for a friend.

We use NNAT 3 also.

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 8:52 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>> wrote:
Good Afternoon--
We are having a G/T meeting this Thursday and my Superintendent suggested I contact some counselor's to find out what test others use  to determine the top 3%.  We use the NNAT 3 with 4th graders each year.  This is just my 3rd year at Sentinel but I know we didn't have any qualifiers the last two years.  I'd like to administer a test somewhere in middle school to catch those who may have just missed the mark in 4th grade.  If you have time (and believe me--I know you don't) would you mind sharing with me the test you use to determine your top 3%?  Our list keeps shrinking-for both categories.  I don't know if that's a trend you see or not.

Thanks for any assistance you can provide.  I do appreciate it.
[https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif]

Deborah Miller
Sentinel School Counselor
580-393-4727<tel:(580)%20393-4727>

_______________________________________________
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Aug 30 09:46:45 2017
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 09:46:45 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Sending for a friend.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.93.1504102730.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.73.1504101575.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
 <mailman.93.1504102730.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.115.1504104387.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

Weatherford uses the CogAT from Riverside.  This is our first year to use form 7.  Form 7 is supposed to identify more ELL students.
> On Aug 30, 2017, at 9:01 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
> 
> We give the Iowa Test of Basic Skills. 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 8:52 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net <mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>> wrote:
> Good Afternoon--
> We are having a G/T meeting this Thursday and my Superintendent suggested I contact some counselor's to find out what test others use  to determine the top 3%.  We use the NNAT 3 with 4th graders each year.  This is just my 3rd year at Sentinel but I know we didn't have any qualifiers the last two years.  I'd like to administer a test somewhere in middle school to catch those who may have just missed the mark in 4th grade.  If you have time (and believe me--I know you don't) would you mind sharing with me the test you use to determine your top 3%?  Our list keeps shrinking-for both categories.  I don't know if that's a trend you see or not.
> 
> Thanks for any assistance you can provide.  I do appreciate it.
> 
> 
> Deborah Miller
> Sentinel School Counselor
> 580-393-4727 <tel:(580)%20393-4727>
> _______________________________________________
> Counselors mailing list
> Counselors at lists.onenet.net <mailto:Counselors at lists.onenet.net>
> https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors <https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors>
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sharla Sharp, NBCT
> Covington-Douglas Schools
> School Counselor
> School Psychometrist
> 400 East Main Street 
> Covington, Ok 73730
> (580) 864-7482 x114
> www.cdwildcats.com <http://www.cdwildcats.com/>_______________________________________________
> Counselors mailing list
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Aug 30 09:48:45 2017
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 09:48:45 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Sending for a friend.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.115.1504104387.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.73.1504101575.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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 <mailman.115.1504104387.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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We have generally used the NNAT2 since it is non-verbal. Last year we tested
all of 2nd grade with it.  This year we plan to test all of 3rd grade with
the OLSAT and will continue to test all of 3rd grade every year.  Which test
we use will be determined based upon this year's results. 

 



Mrs. Dru Svitak, Elementary Counselor & District Test Coordinator

Watonga Public Schools

 <mailto:dru.svitak at watonga.k12.ok.us> dru.svitak at watonga.k12.ok.us

Direct: (580) 623-4020

Main: (580) 623-5248

Fax: (580) 623-5238

 

From: Counselors [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of
OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 9:47 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Sending for a friend.

 

Weatherford uses the CogAT from Riverside.  This is our first year to use
form 7.  Form 7 is supposed to identify more ELL students.

On Aug 30, 2017, at 9:01 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net <mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net> > wrote:

 

We give the Iowa Test of Basic Skills. 

 

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 8:52 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
<counselors at lists.onenet.net <mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net> > wrote:

Good Afternoon--

We are having a G/T meeting this Thursday and my Superintendent suggested I
contact some counselor's to find out what test others use  to determine the
top 3%.  We use the NNAT 3 with 4th graders each year.  This is just my 3rd
year at Sentinel but I know we didn't have any qualifiers the last two
years.  I'd like to administer a test somewhere in middle school to catch
those who may have just missed the mark in 4th grade.  If you have time (and
believe me--I know you don't) would you mind sharing with me the test you
use to determine your top 3%?  Our list keeps shrinking-for both categories.
I don't know if that's a trend you see or not.

 

Thanks for any assistance you can provide.  I do appreciate it.

  <https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif> 

 

Deborah Miller

Sentinel School Counselor

580-393-4727 <tel:(580)%20393-4727> 


_______________________________________________
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https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors





 

-- 

Sharla Sharp, NBCT
Covington-Douglas Schools

School Counselor

School Psychometrist
400 East Main Street 
Covington, Ok 73730
(580) 864-7482 x114 

www.cdwildcats.com <http://www.cdwildcats.com/>  

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Aug 30 10:16:07 2017
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 10:16:07 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent permission slips for counselor's to check
	grades
Message-ID: <mailman.148.1504107003.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

I am looking for an example of a permission slip for our concurrent student to allow us to check their attendance and grades in their colleges courses?
Thank you

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2017, at 9:01 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
> 
> We give the Iowa Test of Basic Skills. 
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 8:52 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>> Good Afternoon--
>> We are having a G/T meeting this Thursday and my Superintendent suggested I contact some counselor's to find out what test others use  to determine the top 3%.  We use the NNAT 3 with 4th graders each year.  This is just my 3rd year at Sentinel but I know we didn't have any qualifiers the last two years.  I'd like to administer a test somewhere in middle school to catch those who may have just missed the mark in 4th grade.  If you have time (and believe me--I know you don't) would you mind sharing with me the test you use to determine your top 3%?  Our list keeps shrinking-for both categories.  I don't know if that's a trend you see or not.
>> 
>> Thanks for any assistance you can provide.  I do appreciate it.
>> 
>> 
>> Deborah Miller
>> Sentinel School Counselor
>> 580-393-4727
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Counselors mailing list
>> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
>> https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sharla Sharp, NBCT
> Covington-Douglas Schools
> School Counselor
> School Psychometrist
> 400 East Main Street 
> Covington, Ok 73730
> (580) 864-7482 x114
> www.cdwildcats.com
> _______________________________________________
> Counselors mailing list
> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
> https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Aug 30 10:10:12 2017
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 10:10:12 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Sending for a friend.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.73.1504101575.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.73.1504101575.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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We purchased the Slosson a few years ago.  I have used it a few times and I
really like it.  You have to administer it one-on-one so I have teachers
make referrals so I know who to test.

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 8:52 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> Good Afternoon--
> We are having a G/T meeting this Thursday and my Superintendent suggested
> I contact some counselor's to find out what test others use  to
> determine the top 3%.  We use the NNAT 3 with 4th graders each year.  This
> is just my 3rd year at Sentinel but I know we didn't have any qualifiers
> the last two years.  I'd like to administer a test somewhere in middle
> school to catch those who may have just missed the mark in 4th grade.  If
> you have time (and believe me--I know you don't) would you mind sharing
> with me the test you use to determine your top 3%?  Our list keeps
> shrinking-for both categories.  I don't know if that's a trend you see or
> not.
>
> Thanks for any assistance you can provide.  I do appreciate it.
>
> Deborah Miller
> Sentinel School Counselor
> 580-393-4727 <(580)%20393-4727>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Counselors mailing list
> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
> https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors
>



-- 

*Mary Pierce, Counselor*
*Bennington Public Schools*
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Aug 30 10:49:14 2017
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 10:49:14 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Sending for a friend.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.149.1504107015.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.73.1504101575.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
 <mailman.149.1504107015.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.166.1504108840.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

How much is Slosson?

From: Counselors [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 10:10 AM
To: counselors at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Counselors] Sending for a friend.

We purchased the Slosson a few years ago.  I have used it a few times and I really like it.  You have to administer it one-on-one so I have teachers make referrals so I know who to test.

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 8:52 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net<mailto:counselors at lists.onenet.net>> wrote:
Good Afternoon--
We are having a G/T meeting this Thursday and my Superintendent suggested I contact some counselor's to find out what test others use  to determine the top 3%.  We use the NNAT 3 with 4th graders each year.  This is just my 3rd year at Sentinel but I know we didn't have any qualifiers the last two years.  I'd like to administer a test somewhere in middle school to catch those who may have just missed the mark in 4th grade.  If you have time (and believe me--I know you don't) would you mind sharing with me the test you use to determine your top 3%?  Our list keeps shrinking-for both categories.  I don't know if that's a trend you see or not.

Thanks for any assistance you can provide.  I do appreciate it.
[https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif]

Deborah Miller
Sentinel School Counselor
580-393-4727<tel:(580)%20393-4727>

_______________________________________________
Counselors mailing list
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Bennington Public Schools
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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 11:01:35 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Sending for a friend.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.149.1504107015.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.73.1504101575.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
 <mailman.149.1504107015.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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We use CoGAT for 5th and 7th graders.  It can be administered as a group,
however the scoring cost is a little $$.

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 10:10 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> We purchased the Slosson a few years ago.  I have used it a few times and
> I really like it.  You have to administer it one-on-one so I have teachers
> make referrals so I know who to test.
>
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 8:52 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
> Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
>> Good Afternoon--
>> We are having a G/T meeting this Thursday and my Superintendent
>> suggested I contact some counselor's to find out what test others use  to
>> determine the top 3%.  We use the NNAT 3 with 4th graders each year.  This
>> is just my 3rd year at Sentinel but I know we didn't have any qualifiers
>> the last two years.  I'd like to administer a test somewhere in middle
>> school to catch those who may have just missed the mark in 4th grade.  If
>> you have time (and believe me--I know you don't) would you mind sharing
>> with me the test you use to determine your top 3%?  Our list keeps
>> shrinking-for both categories.  I don't know if that's a trend you see or
>> not.
>>
>> Thanks for any assistance you can provide.  I do appreciate it.
>>
>> Deborah Miller
>> Sentinel School Counselor
>> 580-393-4727 <(580)%20393-4727>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Counselors mailing list
>> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
>> https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors
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>
>
>
> --
>
> *Mary Pierce, Counselor*
> *Bennington Public Schools*
>
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Aug 30 12:06:02 2017
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 12:06:02 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Sending for a friend.
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We use the Otis Lennon for our 4th and 6th grade. We also test our 2nd graders. I called the company and asked for the standard error so that will change the cut score a little bit. That should allow for more to qualify as a Category 1. Feel free to call me if you need too. 

Stephanie Lee
Prague High School
Counselor

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2017, at 8:52 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
> 
> Good Afternoon--
> We are having a G/T meeting this Thursday and my Superintendent suggested I contact some counselor's to find out what test others use  to determine the top 3%.  We use the NNAT 3 with 4th graders each year.  This is just my 3rd year at Sentinel but I know we didn't have any qualifiers the last two years.  I'd like to administer a test somewhere in middle school to catch those who may have just missed the mark in 4th grade.  If you have time (and believe me--I know you don't) would you mind sharing with me the test you use to determine your top 3%?  Our list keeps shrinking-for both categories.  I don't know if that's a trend you see or not.
> 
> Thanks for any assistance you can provide.  I do appreciate it.
> 
> 
> Deborah Miller
> Sentinel School Counselor
> 580-393-4727
> _______________________________________________
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Aug 30 11:17:39 2017
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 11:17:39 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Sending for a friend.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.120.1504104808.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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We use the NNAT3 for all 1st and 3rd graders plus any parent or teacher
referrals.

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 9:48 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> We have generally used the NNAT2 since it is non-verbal. Last year we
> tested all of 2nd grade with it.  This year we plan to test all of 3rd
> grade with the OLSAT and will continue to test all of 3rd grade every
> year.  Which test we use will be determined based upon this year’s results.
>
>
>
> [image: cid:image001.gif at 01D27C5E.F9726700]
>
> Mrs. Dru Svitak, Elementary Counselor & District Test Coordinator
>
> Watonga Public Schools
>
> dru.svitak at watonga.k12.ok.us
>
> Direct: (580) 623-4020
>
> Main: (580) 623-5248
>
> Fax: (580) 623-5238
>
>
>
> *From:* Counselors [mailto:counselors-bounces at lists.onenet.net] *On
> Behalf Of *OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 30, 2017 9:47 AM
> *To:* counselors at lists.onenet.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Counselors] Sending for a friend.
>
>
>
> Weatherford uses the CogAT from Riverside.  This is our first year to use
> form 7.  Form 7 is supposed to identify more ELL students.
>
> On Aug 30, 2017, at 9:01 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <
> counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> We give the Iowa Test of Basic Skills.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 8:52 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
> Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
> Good Afternoon--
>
> We are having a G/T meeting this Thursday and my Superintendent suggested
> I contact some counselor's to find out what test others use  to
> determine the top 3%.  We use the NNAT 3 with 4th graders each year.  This
> is just my 3rd year at Sentinel but I know we didn't have any qualifiers
> the last two years.  I'd like to administer a test somewhere in middle
> school to catch those who may have just missed the mark in 4th grade.  If
> you have time (and believe me--I know you don't) would you mind sharing
> with me the test you use to determine your top 3%?  Our list keeps
> shrinking-for both categories.  I don't know if that's a trend you see or
> not.
>
>
>
> Thanks for any assistance you can provide.  I do appreciate it.
>
>
>
> Deborah Miller
>
> Sentinel School Counselor
>
> 580-393-4727 <(580)%20393-4727>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Counselors mailing list
> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
> https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Sharla Sharp, NBCT
> Covington-Douglas Schools
>
> School Counselor
>
> School Psychometrist
> 400 East Main Street
> Covington, Ok 73730
> (580) 864-7482 x114 <(580)%20864-7482>
>
> www.cdwildcats.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Counselors mailing list
> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
> https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors
>
>
>
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Merritt Public Schools
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Counselor Website <http://merrittcounselors.weebly.com>
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f. 580.225.5469

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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Aug 30 13:05:21 2017
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 13:05:21 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Sending for a friend.
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In Edmond, we use the COGAT test in the spring for 2nd graders & in the
fall for 4th & 6th graders (middle school starts in 6th grade). If you're
starting from scratch, I might suggest that you do the COGAT, online, if
you have the devices. You get the scores back in 24 hours, while paper &
pencil take several weeks. Edmond is going, online, because it's easier for
the grown-ups, the kids do better, and it's cheaper in the long run. To
qualify in Edmond, they have to score in the 95th percentile (2 points SME)
or above as a *composite* score. Have a good one! Michele :)

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 8:52 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> Good Afternoon--
> We are having a G/T meeting this Thursday and my Superintendent suggested
> I contact some counselor's to find out what test others use  to
> determine the top 3%.  We use the NNAT 3 with 4th graders each year.  This
> is just my 3rd year at Sentinel but I know we didn't have any qualifiers
> the last two years.  I'd like to administer a test somewhere in middle
> school to catch those who may have just missed the mark in 4th grade.  If
> you have time (and believe me--I know you don't) would you mind sharing
> with me the test you use to determine your top 3%?  Our list keeps
> shrinking-for both categories.  I don't know if that's a trend you see or
> not.
>
> Thanks for any assistance you can provide.  I do appreciate it.
>
> Deborah Miller
> Sentinel School Counselor
> 580-393-4727 <(580)%20393-4727>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Counselors mailing list
> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
> https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors
>



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Michele Kingdom, M.Ed., NBCT
7th Grade Counselor
Cheyenne Middle School
Edmond, OK
405-340-2940



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From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 15:26:27 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Issues with Epic Records Requests
Message-ID: <mailman.299.1504127654.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

Hi,
We have been unable to receive any records on our students that are coming
to us from EPIC.  Is anyone else having this problem.  We have sent
multiple requests, some from as early as 8/10/17 and cannot get anyone to
send a single record.  When we finally got to speak with a person today,
they told us that they are refusing to give us records on four of our
students that still have equipment that belongs to them (EPIC) and that
they will not release their records until that equipment has been
returned.  Are they able to withhold their records from us?  I thought that
we all only had 3 days to comply when we get requests?
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Aug 31 07:44:17 2017
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 12:44:17 +0000
Subject: [Counselors]  Issues with Epic Records Requests
In-Reply-To: <8DD76B7FB621AC409D7CE57771C3707360B8A04D@Drake.osrhe.edu>
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We had same problem last year. When we finally was able to talk to someone, they said they don't start their school year until after Labor Day.


Contact your local accreditation officer and they can help.  Leslie Janis is the person at the OK State Dept. of Education that is over Charter schools which EPIC is considered a charter school.

Hi,
I totally feel your pain.  I have had several issues with EPIC as well.  When EPIC refuses to give me the students records, I let my Superintendent know.  He calls our accreditation officer and lets him know.  He then will call EPIC and I usually get the records pretty quick.  I hope this helps.
amy.l.rosenfelt at westernheights.k12.ok.us<mailto:amy.l.rosenfelt at westernheights.k12.ok.us>

We have had the same issues. Our special education director even called OSDE to complain, but didn't get any help there. We also had issues last year with them not releasing students on the WAVE until after October 1st even though the students enrolled with us weeks prior. I am not sure what else to do since OSDE could not help. We have been nice, hateful, and persistent. Nothing has worked. If anyone knows of anything else, we'd love to try it!

Tina Jeffreys
Soper School

We have sent so many requests for records it’s pitiful and we cannot get a reply!  I spent hours on hold and was finally able to leave a message… I have done this 4 times now… no response.  Our other counselor did finally get through to a person and was told she couldn’t get records on the 2 students she needed because they had equipment that belongs to them and they will not release records until the equipment is returned….
arussell at nobleps.com<mailto:arussell at nobleps.com>

We have the same problem!!
I do not know rules about how long they have to comply.  Sorry

Melanie Hayes
Counselor for 10th grade through 12th grade students O-Z
Norman High School
Norman Public Schools
(405) 366-5812

"How are students different because of what school counselors do?"

YES!  We have the same problem!  They won't even return a phone call to us I've called so much.

YES!!!!!!  This is an ongoing problem even for students who do not have anything to turn in!!!   Public schools are *no where* on their priority list.   I hope someone has a solution to this!  SOOOOO FRUSTRATING!!

I was told the same excuse that you were about equipment. When I told them that we needed the records and the three day rule I was told that the State Dept. of Education gave them special permission not to release records if the student still had equipment checked out!  Of course that was told to me when the state dept. was under "different management". Is there any recourse for this?

We are having the SAME issue!!!
lawsonal at adapss.com<mailto:lawsonal at adapss.com>

I have had the same problem...sent numerous requests.  Finally called the district office in Tulsa and they just happened to have my request on their desk.

Janey Sutton
Welch Public Schools
Pk-12 Counselor
707 S Curtis
Welch, OK  74369
918-788-3129 ext. 3
rjsutton at welchwildcats.net<mailto:rjsutton at welchwildcats.net>

"Leap....and the net will appear."

We had the exact same issue. We told them we wanted to hold records when they owed us also but couldn't. They ended up sending us the records.

Sandra Carter
Maysville Public Schools

I was always told that it was against the law to withhold records for overdue books, equipment, etc.

Cindy Bryant, NBCT, M.Ed.
Director, Idabel Alternative Academy
Counselor, Idabel Middle School
100 NE Avenue D
Idabel, OK   74745
(580) 286-6558  Phone
(580) 286-8272 FAX

*Some days there won't be a song in your heart.  Sing anyway!*



QUESTION:
Hi,
We have been unable to receive any records on our students that are coming to us from EPIC.  Is anyone else having this problem.  We have sent multiple requests, some from as early as 8/10/17 and cannot get anyone to send a single record.  When we finally got to speak with a person today, they told us that they are refusing to give us records on four of our students that still have equipment that belongs to them (EPIC) and that they will not release their records until that equipment has been returned.  Are they able to withhold their records from us?  I thought that we all only had 3 days to comply when we get requests?


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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Wed Aug 30 16:08:05 2017
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 16:08:05 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent permission slips for counselor's to
	check grades
In-Reply-To: <mailman.148.1504107003.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
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Hi,
Attached is a draft of our Concurrent Enrollment Agreement and second page
is our Concurrent Enrollment Procedures.   The Agreement (first page)
outlines how we track our student's grades for concurrent courses.  Our
local community college will not grant us access to student's information
regarding attendance and grades, so we placed that responsibility on the
student/parent.
Hope this helps!

Thank you,
Sally

*Sally Randolph*
Counselor, A-J
*Skiatook High School*
Skiatook, OK
918.396.1790 Ext 2409

*"Everybody can be great...because anybody can serve." -Dr. Martin Luther
King, Jr.*

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 10:16 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> I am looking for an example of a permission slip for our concurrent
> student to allow us to check their attendance and grades in their colleges
> courses?
> Thank you
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 30, 2017, at 9:01 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <
> counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
> We give the Iowa Test of Basic Skills.
>
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 8:52 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
> Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
>> Good Afternoon--
>> We are having a G/T meeting this Thursday and my Superintendent
>> suggested I contact some counselor's to find out what test others use  to
>> determine the top 3%.  We use the NNAT 3 with 4th graders each year.  This
>> is just my 3rd year at Sentinel but I know we didn't have any qualifiers
>> the last two years.  I'd like to administer a test somewhere in middle
>> school to catch those who may have just missed the mark in 4th grade.  If
>> you have time (and believe me--I know you don't) would you mind sharing
>> with me the test you use to determine your top 3%?  Our list keeps
>> shrinking-for both categories.  I don't know if that's a trend you see or
>> not.
>>
>> Thanks for any assistance you can provide.  I do appreciate it.
>>
>> Deborah Miller
>> Sentinel School Counselor
>> 580-393-4727 <(580)%20393-4727>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Counselors mailing list
>> Counselors at lists.onenet.net
>> https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sharla Sharp, NBCT
> Covington-Douglas Schools
> School Counselor
> School Psychometrist
> 400 East Main Street
> Covington, Ok 73730
> (580) 864-7482 x114 <(580)%20864-7482>
> www.cdwildcats.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Aug 31 09:34:00 2017
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 14:34:00 +0000
Subject: [Counselors]   Issues with Epic Records Requests
Message-ID: <mailman.480.1504190091.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

I have called and asked them to send me a box to return their equipment and to please send me records.  Epic is sending me the box.  The lady I spoke with did not know that Epic was not communicating with the schools on the reason for them not sending records.
hbutler at kiefer.k12.ok.us<mailto:hbutler at kiefer.k12.ok.us>

Shelly Ellis from the SDE said to email her and let her know.

Same issue at Covington-Douglas. We had a student that we could not get special education records on and they would not release us the IEP that was almost due. They conveniently sent it to us after Oct. 1 child count. hmmmmm....


We had same problem last year. When we finally was able to talk to someone, they said they don't start their school year until after Labor Day.


Contact your local accreditation officer and they can help.  Leslie Janis is the person at the OK State Dept. of Education that is over Charter schools which EPIC is considered a charter school.

Hi,
I totally feel your pain.  I have had several issues with EPIC as well.  When EPIC refuses to give me the students records, I let my Superintendent know.  He calls our accreditation officer and lets him know.  He then will call EPIC and I usually get the records pretty quick.  I hope this helps.
amy.l.rosenfelt at westernheights.k12.ok.us<mailto:amy.l.rosenfelt at westernheights.k12.ok.us>

We have had the same issues. Our special education director even called OSDE to complain, but didn't get any help there. We also had issues last year with them not releasing students on the WAVE until after October 1st even though the students enrolled with us weeks prior. I am not sure what else to do since OSDE could not help. We have been nice, hateful, and persistent. Nothing has worked. If anyone knows of anything else, we'd love to try it!

Tina Jeffreys
Soper School

We have sent so many requests for records it’s pitiful and we cannot get a reply!  I spent hours on hold and was finally able to leave a message… I have done this 4 times now… no response.  Our other counselor did finally get through to a person and was told she couldn’t get records on the 2 students she needed because they had equipment that belongs to them and they will not release records until the equipment is returned….
arussell at nobleps.com<mailto:arussell at nobleps.com>

We have the same problem!!
I do not know rules about how long they have to comply.  Sorry

Melanie Hayes
Counselor for 10th grade through 12th grade students O-Z
Norman High School
Norman Public Schools
(405) 366-5812

"How are students different because of what school counselors do?"

YES!  We have the same problem!  They won't even return a phone call to us I've called so much.

YES!!!!!!  This is an ongoing problem even for students who do not have anything to turn in!!!   Public schools are *no where* on their priority list.   I hope someone has a solution to this!  SOOOOO FRUSTRATING!!

I was told the same excuse that you were about equipment. When I told them that we needed the records and the three day rule I was told that the State Dept. of Education gave them special permission not to release records if the student still had equipment checked out!  Of course that was told to me when the state dept. was under "different management". Is there any recourse for this?

We are having the SAME issue!!!
lawsonal at adapss.com<mailto:lawsonal at adapss.com>

I have had the same problem...sent numerous requests.  Finally called the district office in Tulsa and they just happened to have my request on their desk.

Janey Sutton
Welch Public Schools
Pk-12 Counselor
707 S Curtis
Welch, OK  74369
918-788-3129 ext. 3
rjsutton at welchwildcats.net<mailto:rjsutton at welchwildcats.net>

"Leap....and the net will appear."

We had the exact same issue. We told them we wanted to hold records when they owed us also but couldn't. They ended up sending us the records.

Sandra Carter
Maysville Public Schools

I was always told that it was against the law to withhold records for overdue books, equipment, etc.

Cindy Bryant, NBCT, M.Ed.
Director, Idabel Alternative Academy
Counselor, Idabel Middle School
100 NE Avenue D
Idabel, OK   74745
(580) 286-6558  Phone
(580) 286-8272 FAX

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QUESTION:
Hi,
We have been unable to receive any records on our students that are coming to us from EPIC.  Is anyone else having this problem.  We have sent multiple requests, some from as early as 8/10/17 and cannot get anyone to send a single record.  When we finally got to speak with a person today, they told us that they are refusing to give us records on four of our students that still have equipment that belongs to them (EPIC) and that they will not release their records until that equipment has been returned.  Are they able to withhold their records from us?  I thought that we all only had 3 days to comply when we get requests?


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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Aug 31 08:28:02 2017
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 08:28:02 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Concurrent permission slips for counselor's to
	check grades
In-Reply-To: <mailman.148.1504107003.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.148.1504107003.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.483.1504190114.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

Our Local Colleges have a form that parents and students must sign with
them, granting us access.  If students don't sign it, we remind parents
that it is their responsibility to take care of all things related to
concurrent classes, including insuring that students are passing and must,
to remain eligible for sports after grades at semester.  Usually
parents/students decide at that time to grant us access.  If they don't, we
just enforce the rules. Of course, we are still a resource for our
concurrent students, and ensure that they appear to be doing all
assignments.

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 10:16 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> I am looking for an example of a permission slip for our concurrent
> student to allow us to check their attendance and grades in their colleges
> courses?
> Thank you
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 30, 2017, at 9:01 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board <
> counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
> We give the Iowa Test of Basic Skills.
>
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 8:52 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
> Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:
>
>> Good Afternoon--
>> We are having a G/T meeting this Thursday and my Superintendent
>> suggested I contact some counselor's to find out what test others use  to
>> determine the top 3%.  We use the NNAT 3 with 4th graders each year.  This
>> is just my 3rd year at Sentinel but I know we didn't have any qualifiers
>> the last two years.  I'd like to administer a test somewhere in middle
>> school to catch those who may have just missed the mark in 4th grade.  If
>> you have time (and believe me--I know you don't) would you mind sharing
>> with me the test you use to determine your top 3%?  Our list keeps
>> shrinking-for both categories.  I don't know if that's a trend you see or
>> not.
>>
>> Thanks for any assistance you can provide.  I do appreciate it.
>>
>> Deborah Miller
>> Sentinel School Counselor
>> 580-393-4727 <(580)%20393-4727>
>>
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> Covington-Douglas Schools
> School Counselor
> School Psychometrist
> 400 East Main Street
> Covington, Ok 73730
> (580) 864-7482 x114 <(580)%20864-7482>
> www.cdwildcats.com
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Aug 31 13:26:42 2017
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 13:26:42 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Issues with Epic Records Requests
In-Reply-To: <mailman.480.1504190091.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
References: <mailman.480.1504190091.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.567.1504206209.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

Yes, I have had trouble in the past with this. This year I have been
sending and receiving records to this address.

fax at epiccharterschools.org     Dana Ewart

She is very helpful and sends records to me quickly when I email her
directly.

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 9:34 AM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion
Board <counselors at lists.onenet.net> wrote:

> I have called and asked them to send me a box to return their equipment
> and to please send me records.  Epic is sending me the box.  The lady I
> spoke with did not know that Epic was not communicating with the schools on
> the reason for them not sending records.
>
> hbutler at kiefer.k12.ok.us
>
>
>
> Shelly Ellis from the SDE said to email her and let her know.
>
>
>
> Same issue at Covington-Douglas. We had a student that we could not get
> special education records on and they would not release us the IEP that was
> almost due. They conveniently sent it to us after Oct. 1 child count.
> hmmmmm....
>
>
>
>
>
> We had same problem last year. When we finally was able to talk to
> someone, they said they don't start their school year until after Labor Day.
>
>
>
>
>
> Contact your local accreditation officer and they can help.  Leslie Janis
> is the person at the OK State Dept. of Education that is over Charter
> schools which EPIC is considered a charter school.
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I totally feel your pain.  I have had several issues with EPIC as well.
> When EPIC refuses to give me the students records, I let my Superintendent
> know.  He calls our accreditation officer and lets him know.  He then will
> call EPIC and I usually get the records pretty quick.  I hope this helps.
>
> amy.l.rosenfelt at westernheights.k12.ok.us
>
>
>
> We have had the same issues. Our special education director even called
> OSDE to complain, but didn't get any help there. We also had issues last
> year with them not releasing students on the WAVE until after October 1st
> even though the students enrolled with us weeks prior. I am not sure what
> else to do since OSDE could not help. We have been nice, hateful, and
> persistent. Nothing has worked. If anyone knows of anything else, we'd love
> to try it!
>
>
>
> Tina Jeffreys
>
> Soper School
>
>
>
> We have sent so many requests for records it’s pitiful and we cannot get a
> reply!  I spent hours on hold and was finally able to leave a message… I
> have done this 4 times now… no response.  Our other counselor did finally
> get through to a person and was told she couldn’t get records on the 2
> students she needed because they had equipment that belongs to them and
> they will not release records until the equipment is returned….
>
> arussell at nobleps.com
>
>
>
> We have the same problem!!
>
> I do not know rules about how long they have to comply.  Sorry
>
>
>
> Melanie Hayes
>
> Counselor for 10th grade through 12th grade students O-Z
>
> Norman High School
>
> Norman Public Schools
>
> (405) 366-5812
>
>
>
> "How are students different because of what school counselors do?"
>
>
>
> YES!  We have the same problem!  They won't even return a phone call to us
> I've called so much.
>
>
>
> YES!!!!!!  This is an ongoing problem even for students who do not have
> anything to turn in!!!   Public schools are *no where* on their priority
> list.   I hope someone has a solution to this!  SOOOOO FRUSTRATING!!
>
>
>
> I was told the same excuse that you were about equipment. When I told them
> that we needed the records and the three day rule I was told that the State
> Dept. of Education gave them special permission not to release records if
> the student still had equipment checked out!  Of course that was told to me
> when the state dept. was under "different management". Is there any
> recourse for this?
>
>
>
> We are having the SAME issue!!!
>
> lawsonal at adapss.com
>
>
>
> I have had the same problem...sent numerous requests.  Finally called the
> district office in Tulsa and they just happened to have my request on their
> desk.
>
>
>
> Janey Sutton
>
> Welch Public Schools
>
> Pk-12 Counselor
>
> 707 S Curtis
>
> Welch, OK  74369
>
> 918-788-3129 ext. 3 <(918)%20788-3129>
>
> rjsutton at welchwildcats.net
>
>
>
> "Leap....and the net will appear."
>
>
>
> We had the exact same issue. We told them we wanted to hold records when
> they owed us also but couldn't. They ended up sending us the records.
>
>
>
> Sandra Carter
>
> Maysville Public Schools
>
>
>
> I was always told that it was against the law to withhold records for
> overdue books, equipment, etc.
>
>
>
> Cindy Bryant, NBCT, M.Ed.
>
> Director, Idabel Alternative Academy
>
> Counselor, Idabel Middle School
>
> 100 NE Avenue D
>
> Idabel, OK   74745
>
> (580) 286-6558  Phone
>
> (580) 286-8272 FAX
>
>
>
> *Some days there won't be a song in your heart.  Sing anyway!*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *QUESTION:*
>
> Hi,
>
> We have been unable to receive any records on our students that are coming
> to us from EPIC.  Is anyone else having this problem.  We have sent
> multiple requests, some from as early as 8/10/17 and cannot get anyone to
> send a single record.  When we finally got to speak with a person today,
> they told us that they are refusing to give us records on four of our
> students that still have equipment that belongs to them (EPIC) and that
> they will not release their records until that equipment has been
> returned.  Are they able to withhold their records from us?  I thought that
> we all only had 3 days to comply when we get requests?
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Counselors mailing list
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Paula R. Belcher
Velma-Alma School
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Aug 31 20:10:31 2017
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 01:10:31 +0000
Subject: [Counselors] High School Directory form
Message-ID: <mailman.640.1504229606.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

Does anyone have a high school directory form they wouldn't mind sharing with me? It's the form that parents can opt out if they don't want their students information shared with recruiters.

Thanks!
Lynn Hendren
Jay High School
11th and 12th Grade Counselor
P 918.253.4466 ext. 324
F 918.253.8469
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From counselors at lists.onenet.net  Thu Aug 31 21:54:35 2017
From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 21:54:35 -0500
Subject: [Counselors] Internship documents/guidelines
Message-ID: <mailman.688.1504271529.1848.counselors@lists.onenet.net>

Would anyone with a high school internship program be willing to share their forms/guidelines/policy information?

Thank you!

Jill Moery
Hennessey 


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