From counselors at lists.onenet.net Thu Jun 1 08:25:48 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 13:25:48 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] Counselor Salaries Message-ID: We are a 4A school. All counselors are required to work 10 days before teachers report as well as 10 days after. We get one month's pay for those 20 days and 10% of our base teacher pay ($43,900 for 25+ years) so $4390 for being a counselor. Adds up to roughly $9K for extra days and stipend. I get $1000 above base for extra time I have to put in. Like you I come in before the teachers and leave a week or two after everyone else is gone. I do also have to make trips to school (25 miles one way) during the summer to help with various reports and other issues that come up frequently. Also on 24 hour call for any problems with students or parents or whoever needs help. I know other districts pay 5-10,000 above for counselors but not at my school. It took 6 years to get the extra pay for the extra days. Good luck. We have a union to negotiate our salaries but we get paid for 196 days a year. Teachers get paid for 181 days. I would get your daily rate of pay and ask for those extra days you work. We do not get stipends either. But we get paid for during study hall $26.50 an hour or the rate that Title 1 pays teachers. If your health insurance isn’t included, ask for that instead of payment. Our annual salary is divided by 24 pays so we get paid 2 times a month.  Good luck! I am on a 12 month contract just like other administrators. They added two months pay to my annual salary, plus I get stipends for any extra duties I have (i.e. DTC, GT, administrator for MAS etc.). My base salary is figured by year’s exp with Master's. I've heard that some schools do year’s exp with Master's plus 5% like Ag teachers and others get. Good luck with your negotiations. My contract is 10 days before and 10 days after the teachers. I get paid 20% above what I would make in my district as a teacher with a Master’s. In our contract we have a specific # of days we work before and after teachers and are paid for those days only. We are interested in hearing how other districts do this because we've heard that some other districts do this as well as give a stipend on top of that. I make teacher pay plus years of experience. I work 5 days before and 5 days after the teachers. I do get paid for those 10 days. Good Luck You are working 10 months on a 9 month contract You are working for them for free for a month. We work the 10 month contract here too but get $3400 in addition to step for the extra months worked (5A school). I am not sure where the random number came from but I do know that it has not changed in 15 years regardless of experience. At my last school, 11 years ago, I received $5000 above step as counselor and was not required to stay a certain number of days nor come early, only enough to complete my tasks at the end of the year and before school started in August (Class A school.) I asked years ago at my previous school to be paid per day the extra days I was expected to be at school or I would not work or be available during summer. It was 20 days so they just decided to pay me another month, a 10 month contract, August 1-May31. My new school (as of five years ago) does something similar. I receive base master's pay plus one month's average, because of the extra days I come in. Hope this helps. I'm in exactly the same position. I thought last year I'd get the nerve to ask to be paid for the extra time I work before school begins and after it ends since I have to stay and teachers don't. However, I chickened out because I am thankful for the job but when my teacher friends are all camping and on vacation already I get a little grumpy about it. I am a Middle School counselor (550 students) who is paid according to the regular teacher’s contract. My additional pay comes from working 5 days before and 5 days after the contract time. No additional pay for the counselor. I get teachers’ pay plus extra for the extra days. Do you have to be assistant principal also? On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 4:08 PM OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board > wrote: Good afternoon, Currently, I have been debating on whether or not to negotiate my contract a little. I understand the state is in a budget crisis, but we have been very lucky to have gained almost 40 students last year and we will hold steady this year as well. This is a personal question, so I COMPLETELY understand if counselors do not wish to disclose how much extra above a teacher salary they make, but I only make years experience at a teacher based salary with my Master’s. I do not get any extra pay or stipends. When the teachers go home, which this year it was the 19th, I have to stay until the 31st. I am also expected to return August 1st and the teachers will not report this year until August 9th. I want to be fair to my district and fair to myself. Any responses will be appreciated! ALL NAMES AND SCHOOLS WILL BE REMOVED FOR THIS RESPONSE. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From counselors at lists.onenet.net Fri Jun 2 13:15:56 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 18:15:56 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] Home school students Message-ID: Hello! I was wondering what other school's do when they have a student come to the high school from being home schooled? This potential student has had a variety of curriculum form various different companies (Teaching Textbooks, Apologia, School house, Bob Jones University, and Accelerated Christian Education). I was planning to have him test, he was homeschooled for his freshmen and sophomore years. He wants to come to us as a junior. I know we have had a couple of other students from a church school, but their curriculum was accredited and we took those grades. Le t me know what your school does in this situation. Thanks for your help! -- Kacee Poteet, MPH Guidance Counselor, L-Z Bristow High School 918-367-2241 x 213 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From counselors at lists.onenet.net Sat Jun 3 21:33:47 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2017 02:33:47 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] Home school students In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Must be accredited if wanting to receive credit from homeschool curriculum for us. Having said that, we passed a new non-accredited private school credit transfer policy. If from a non-accredited private school, we use the institution-to-institution, non-accredited transcript in combination with at least one other evaluation form, listed on the policy, like certified teacher evaluation, testing, portfolio, etc. plus a committee of no less than three that includes the head principal. Once a grade is determined for credit, the student/family then has the option if they want to keep it for credit or retake the class. If you would like to see or use this policy to modify your practice, let me know. I'll send a copy or attach one here. dana.martin at guymontigers.com We will not accept transcription from an unaccredited process or institution for core credits. We would allow the student to attempt earning credits through a Course By Proficiency where we test them through Edgenuity, our virtual curriculum. For proficiency the student must earn 90% on an exam to earn a P for proficiency. If they earn enough credits to class as a specific grade level, that's how they're classified. Owasso High School If it is from an accredited school, yes we take the credits. If it is from a private school that's not accredited but they are military....you can take them as credits under the military compact. Otherwise, I had a home school student who wanted to come in as a sophomore and so they had to take ninth grade proficiency test such as algebra one, government and other subjects that he said he had studied. He passed three different subjects with over 90%. So we gave him a P on his transcripts. But we did not necessarily consider him a sophomore until he had a certain amount of credits. Hello! I was wondering what other school's do when they have a student come to the high school from being home schooled? This potential student has had a variety of curriculum form various different companies (Teaching Textbooks, Apologia, School house, Bob Jones University, and Accelerated Christian Education). I was planning to have him test, he was homeschooled for his freshmen and sophomore years. He wants to come to us as a junior. I know we have had a couple of other students from a church school, but their curriculum was accredited and we took those grades. Le t me know what your school does in this situation. Thanks for your help! -- Kacee Poteet, MPH Guidance Counselor, L-Z Bristow High School 918-367-2241 x 213 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From counselors at lists.onenet.net Tue Jun 20 13:39:45 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:39:45 -0500 Subject: [Counselors] Early Graduation Policy Message-ID: If any of you have an "Early Graduation Policy" that you would be willing to share I would appreciate it! We are in the process of refining ours and would like to have some suggestions and guidance. Thanks in advance! Gina Huenergardt, Counselor Shattuck Public School -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From counselors at lists.onenet.net Tue Jun 20 14:08:39 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 14:08:39 -0500 Subject: [Counselors] Early Graduation Policy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We require 10th graders to notify us by the end of sophomore year if they plan to graduate early. That way we can treat their next school year (3rd and final year with us) like their senior year and go through college app process, etc. with them. We have them take their 11th grade English over the summer after 10th grade. Then we can put them in senior English when they return. > On Jun 20, 2017, at 2:05 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board wrote: > > If any of you have an "Early Graduation Policy" that you would be willing to share I would appreciate it! We are in the process of refining ours and would like to have some suggestions and guidance. > > Thanks in advance! > Gina Huenergardt, Counselor > Shattuck Public School > _______________________________________________ > Counselors mailing list > Counselors at lists.onenet.net > https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors From counselors at lists.onenet.net Thu Jun 22 08:52:58 2017 From: counselors at lists.onenet.net (OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 13:52:58 +0000 Subject: [Counselors] Early Graduation Policy Message-ID: Students must complete an application for review and administrative approval my May of junior year. We consider early graduation the December of the student's scheduled year. The student must present a 'reason' for wanting an early graduation date and must have an ACT on deck prior to the request. The counselor must consul the student and family prior to the form being submitted for approval and must be able to show a 'path' to complete by December. The application is then passed to upper administration for approval. Once we receive an approved plan then we move forward with English 4 through summer concurrency, online virtual, etc.... For a 6-A school we generally have 2-3 students a year who are approved on early plan. *Becky Copeland, MS* Counselor, Students last name H-O Owasso High School Owasso, OK 918-272-8030 (direct line) 918-272-8186 (office) 918-272-8028 (fax) ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ditto but we also require a parent/student meeting before the end of 10th grade. This meeting is useful to discuss pros and cons as well as understanding the expectations. Parent and student sign a simple contract that outlines plan. Mary Beth Lykins Counselor: 10-12, alpha HAN - PA Booker T. Washington High School Office: 918.925.1019 FAX: 918.925.1001 lykinma at tulsaschools.org _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ We require 10th graders to notify us by the end of sophomore year if they plan to graduate early. That way we can treat their next school year (3rd and final year with us) like their senior year and go through college app process, etc. with them. We have them take their 11th grade English over the summer after 10th grade. Then we can put them in senior English when they return. > On Jun 20, 2017, at 2:05 PM, OSRHE EPAS PK-12 Counselor Discussion Board wrote: > > If any of you have an "Early Graduation Policy" that you would be willing to share I would appreciate it! We are in the process of refining ours and would like to have some suggestions and guidance. > > Thanks in advance! > Gina Huenergardt, Counselor > Shattuck Public School > _______________________________________________ > Counselors mailing list > Counselors at lists.onenet.net > https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors _______________________________________________ Counselors mailing list Counselors at lists.onenet.net https://lists.onenet.net/mailman/listinfo/counselors