<div dir="ltr"><div>Don't get me started!!!!! BUT..</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>We have parents wanting to opt out of both OCCT and OCCRA </div><div>I questioned why an item tryout or field tests should effect the report card...misleading answers ........</div>
<div> What the heck!!!</div><div><br></div><div> The question about the 95% and the OCCRA tests </div><div>As follows with the answer from Joyce Defur!!</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Good morning!<div>
Could you clarify something for me!</div><div><br></div><div>The Item Tryout tests given by Measured Progress. We are to test 95% of our students--do our students need to do a makeup test if they aren't here?</div><div>
and how do these item tryout tests effect our school report card?</div><div>Thank you!</div><div><br></div><div>Joyce's answer:</div><div><br></div><div><div><br></div><div>By law, there is no distinction made between item tryouts and regular operational testing. Both are required under the same law since operational testing is dependent upon valid piloting, and both are subject to the same rules and penalties which is overseen and governed by the State Board. Whether this rule will be enforced or whether the State Board would determine for the penalty to go against a school's accreditation report would be for this board to determine. You should make every effort to test all possible students.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Joyce<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Rule states that schools must have tested at least 95% and if they don't, their school letter grade would be lowered by one...if 90 % or less, it is automatic F</div>
<div><br></div><div>SO IF we don't have 90% we get an "F" on an ITEM TRYOUT!!! for our school, that is 9--yes NINE students opting out.....</div><div><br></div><div>HAVE I COMPLETELY MISUNDERSTOOD? WHERE DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I too love my job---working with students and parents---but this testing takes AWAY from our real purpose and that is teaching/serving our students.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the opportunity to RANT!!!</div>
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Subject: Re: [Counselors] QUESTION: OAM <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">Calling all rural Oklahoma high schools, we are currently trying to incorporate Spanish as a Foreighn Language into our class schedule. However, we have always used the Computer Language class
as out FL. We do not have the funding necessary for either online curriculum or hiring another teacher. Any ideas?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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