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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>While we are on the discussion of International admissions, do
all of you require an ACT or SAT in addition to the TOEFL?&nbsp; Do you also require
an American transcription of the foreign high school transcript? Just asking&#8230;I
have created a universal disturbance in the NOC athletic department, so wanted
to know your thoughts! Thanks, Rick<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net [mailto:oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Dawn Cain<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 30, 2010 3:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Klaassen, Bob<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Oacrao-l@lists.onenet.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oacrao-l] help on IELTS<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>For undergrads, NSU uses IELTS score of 6 for those direct
from their home country and 5 for those with 12 weeks of study at an approved
English language school.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>For grads, IELTS from home country is 6.5 and 5.5 with 12
weeks of study.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>We have been using these scores since at least 2007 and I
have not heard of any changes via email.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dawn Cain<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Klaassen, Bob &lt;<a
href="mailto:bob.klaassen@swosu.edu">bob.klaassen@swosu.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Pamla:</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>I just looked at my notes and we use 5.5 IELTS for
undergrad admission and 6.5 for graduate admission.&nbsp; To be honest with
you, I have not paid attention to the updates in the procedures&nbsp; manual,
so who am I to respond!?!</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>I have had very few (less than 5 in 15 years) who have
come to us using IELTS scores.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks, </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Bob Klaassen</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='color:#1F497D'>Registrar</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='color:#1F497D'>Southwestern Oklahoma State University</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>100 Campus Drive</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Weatherford, OK&nbsp; 73096</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Office:&nbsp; 580-774-3001</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>FAX:&nbsp; 580-774-3795</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net" target="_blank">oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net" target="_blank">oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Fullerton, Kirsten<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 30, 2010 2:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Armstrong, Pamla R.; <a href="mailto:Oacrao-l@lists.onenet.net"
target="_blank">Oacrao-l@lists.onenet.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oacrao-l] help on IELTS</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Pamla,</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>I don&#8217;t ever recall seeing this change on the listserv
(nor did I see it on a quick search of any email referencing IELTS); however, I
did see the change documented in the Chapter 3 of the Policy Manuel last month,
when I was looking for something else. While I have inquired as to whether or
not we will be changing our requirements, at this time OSU is still using the
6.0 for undergraduate admission, and I believe our graduate college is using a
6.5 overall band score.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cooper Black","serif";color:#E36C0A;
text-shadow:auto'>Kirsten Fullerton</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Cooper Black","serif";color:#1F497D'>Coordinator of
International Undergraduate Admission</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span
style='color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-family:"Cooper Black","serif";color:#1F497D'>International Students
&amp; Scholars </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Cooper Black","serif";color:#E36C0A'>Oklahoma State
University</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-family:"Cooper Black","serif";color:#1F497D'>076 Student Union</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Cooper Black","serif";color:#1F497D'>Stillwater, OK 74078</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Cooper Black","serif";color:#1F497D'>Phone: (405) 744-5459</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Cooper Black","serif";color:#1F497D'>Fax: (405) 744-8120</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Cooper Black","serif";color:#1F497D'>email: <a
href="mailto:admissions-iss@okstate.edu" target="_blank">admissions-iss@okstate.edu</a>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='color:#F79646;text-shadow:auto'><a href="http://union.okstate.edu/iss"
target="_blank">http://union.okstate.edu/iss</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Follow us on <a
href="http://twitter.com/OSU_ISS" target="_blank">Twitter</a> or <a
href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pages/Stillwater-OK/Oklahoma-State-University-International-Students-Scholars/94634547961?ref=ts"
target="_blank">Facebook</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net" target="_blank">oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net" target="_blank">oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Armstrong, Pamla R.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 30, 2010 1:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Oacrao-l@lists.onenet.net" target="_blank">Oacrao-l@lists.onenet.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Oacrao-l] help on IELTS</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hello
all,<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I
hope you can all help me out on an issue that I need a very QUICK answer
on.&nbsp; We are preparing to admit a number of international students and are
looking at how we will satisfy their language proficiency requirement.&nbsp;
The minimum score we use for IELTS is 6.0 for both graduate and undergraduate
students.&nbsp; Last week I discovered that the OSRHE procedures manual now
reflects a 5.0 as the minimum score.&nbsp; I checked and Gina said we were
notified in the spring that this changed via OACRAO-l.&nbsp; Can you tell me
what IELTS score you use and when you received the notification that it changed
from 6 to 5?&nbsp; I wonder if I am not getting the updates. &nbsp;I get the
ones on policy but not things that change in the procedures like this.&nbsp;
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks
for your speedy response.&nbsp; Time is working against me on this one so I am
relying on my OACRAO friends to set me straight!<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Pamla<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Script MT Bold"'>Pamla Armstrong</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Director
of Admissions and Records/Registrar<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>East
Central University<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>1100
E 14th ECU PMB J-8<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ada
OK&nbsp; 74820-6999<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>(580)
559-5239 (Phone)<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>(580)
559-5432 (Fax)<o:p></o:p></p>

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-- <br>
Dawn Cain<br>
Director of Admissions<br>
Northeastern State University<br>
Tahlequah, OK &nbsp;74464<br>
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