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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Dear Rick:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Yes, we require either the ACT or SAT in addition to the TOEFL.
We do not require </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>an American transcription of the foreign high school transcript.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I hope you survive your universal disturbance!</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Bob Klaassen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Registrar<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Southwestern Oklahoma State University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>100 Campus Drive<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Weatherford, OK 73096<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Office: 580-774-3001<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>FAX: 580-774-3795<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net
[mailto:oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rick Edgington<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Oacrao-l@lists.onenet.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oacrao-l] help on IELTS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>While we are on the discussion of International admissions, do
all of you require an ACT or SAT in addition to the TOEFL? Do you also
require an American transcription of the foreign high school transcript? Just
asking…I have created a universal disturbance in the NOC athletic
department, so wanted to know your thoughts! Thanks, Rick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net [mailto:oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Dawn Cain<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 30, 2010 3:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Klaassen, Bob<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Oacrao-l@lists.onenet.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oacrao-l] help on IELTS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>For undergrads, NSU uses IELTS score of 6 for those direct
from their home country and 5 for those with 12 weeks of study at an approved
English language school. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>For grads, IELTS from home country is 6.5 and 5.5 with 12
weeks of study.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>We have been using these scores since at least 2007 and I
have not heard of any changes via email.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dawn Cain<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Klaassen, Bob <<a
href="mailto:bob.klaassen@swosu.edu">bob.klaassen@swosu.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Pamla:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>I just looked at my notes and we use 5.5 IELTS for undergrad
admission and 6.5 for graduate admission. To be honest with you, I have
not paid attention to the updates in the procedures manual, so who am I
to respond!?!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>I have had very few (less than 5 in 15 years) who have
come to us using IELTS scores.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Bob Klaassen</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Registrar</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Southwestern Oklahoma State University</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>100 Campus Drive</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Weatherford, OK 73096</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Office: 580-774-3001</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>FAX: 580-774-3795</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net" target="_blank">oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net" target="_blank">oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Fullerton, Kirsten<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 30, 2010 2:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Armstrong, Pamla R.; <a href="mailto:Oacrao-l@lists.onenet.net"
target="_blank">Oacrao-l@lists.onenet.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oacrao-l] help on IELTS</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Pamla,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>I don’t ever recall seeing this change on the
listserv (nor did I see it on a quick search of any email referencing IELTS);
however, I did see the change documented in the Chapter 3 of the Policy Manuel
last month, when I was looking for something else. While I have inquired as to
whether or not we will be changing our requirements, at this time OSU is still
using the 6.0 for undergraduate admission, and I believe our graduate college
is using a 6.5 overall band score.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cooper Black","serif";color:#E36C0A;
text-shadow:auto'>Kirsten Fullerton</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Cooper Black","serif";color:#1F497D'>Coordinator of
International Undergraduate Admission</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span
style='color:#1F497D'> </span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Cooper Black","serif";color:#1F497D'>International Students
& Scholars </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Cooper Black","serif";color:#E36C0A'>Oklahoma State
University</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Cooper Black","serif";color:#1F497D'>076 Student Union</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Cooper Black","serif";color:#1F497D'>Stillwater, OK 74078</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Cooper Black","serif";color:#1F497D'>Phone: (405) 744-5459</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Cooper Black","serif";color:#1F497D'>Fax: (405) 744-8120</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Cooper Black","serif";color:#1F497D'>email: <a
href="mailto:admissions-iss@okstate.edu" target="_blank">admissions-iss@okstate.edu</a>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#F79646;text-shadow:auto'><a href="http://union.okstate.edu/iss"
target="_blank">http://union.okstate.edu/iss</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Follow us on <a
href="http://twitter.com/OSU_ISS" target="_blank">Twitter</a> or <a
href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pages/Stillwater-OK/Oklahoma-State-University-International-Students-Scholars/94634547961?ref=ts"
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net" target="_blank">oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net" target="_blank">oacrao-l-bounces@lists.onenet.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Armstrong, Pamla R.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 30, 2010 1:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Oacrao-l@lists.onenet.net" target="_blank">Oacrao-l@lists.onenet.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Oacrao-l] help on IELTS</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hello
all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I
hope you can all help me out on an issue that I need a very QUICK answer
on. We are preparing to admit a number of international students and are
looking at how we will satisfy their language proficiency requirement.
The minimum score we use for IELTS is 6.0 for both graduate and undergraduate
students. Last week I discovered that the OSRHE procedures manual now
reflects a 5.0 as the minimum score. I checked and Gina said we were
notified in the spring that this changed via OACRAO-l. Can you tell me
what IELTS score you use and when you received the notification that it changed
from 6 to 5? I wonder if I am not getting the updates. I get the
ones on policy but not things that change in the procedures like this.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks
for your speedy response. Time is working against me on this one so I am
relying on my OACRAO friends to set me straight!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Pamla<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Script MT Bold"'>Pamla Armstrong</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Director
of Admissions and Records/Registrar<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>East
Central University<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>1100
E 14th ECU PMB J-8<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ada
OK 74820-6999<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>(580)
559-5239 (Phone)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>(580)
559-5432 (Fax)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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