From cpacheco at ou.edu Mon Nov 2 16:59:03 2009 From: cpacheco at ou.edu (Pacheco, Caryn L.) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:59:03 +0000 Subject: [Oasfaa] Banner Software and OTAG Message-ID: <1E1F49ABBD3E6B44B42C49D4FF7FDA6A016B9C@IT-AIRSTORM.sooner.net.ou.edu> Hello all my Financial Aid Banner Software Friends! Do any of you have a Fund Awarding Rule for OTAG? We are needing to tweak our rules and need some assistance. As always, thank you for your assistance! Caryn Caryn L. Pacheco Director, Financial Aid Services The University of Oklahoma 1000 Asp, Buchanan Hall Room 312 Norman, OK 73019-4078 E-Mail: cpacheco at ou.edu Phone: (405) 325-9627 This message, and attachments if any, from the University of Oklahoma may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this information, you are prohibited from reading, disclosing, reproducing, distributing, disseminating, or otherwise using this information. 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Registration information, agenda, and hotel information is online at http://www.swasfaa.org/docs/conferences/toc_conferences.html. Registration for the conference ends November 23, 2009 and hotel reservations need to be made by November 16, 2009 to ensure the SWASFAA rate. Bessie M. Carter Director of Financial Aid and Scholarships Oklahoma State University-Oklahoma City 900 N. Portland Avenue Oklahoma City, OK 73107 Office: (405) 945-3211 Fax: (405) 945-3319 email: cartebm at osuokc.edu ________________________________ This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. 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Attached for your information is a spreadsheet that compares each institution's final 2008-09 OTAG awards statistics with 2009-10 to date. For now, we have assumed that the award amounts paid in fall 2009 will be the same amounts paid in spring 2010. We need cooperation from all institutions in wrapping up fall OTAG awarding and disbursement activities as quickly as possible to best position us for making awarding decisions for spring 2010. As of today the OTAG program is almost $1.3 million overcommitted, which means there will be significantly fewer dollars to award in the upcoming spring semester than has been the case in recent years. We do, however, anticipate there will be some funds available for new awards, and we will make an announcement regarding a new FAFSA receipt cutoff for spring awards as soon as we are in a position to do so. If your institution needs a pre-populated Award Claim Form or a Fall 2009 Reconciliation Report for a final check to ensure that you have claimed awards for all of your eligible students, please send an e-mail request to reports at otag.org. Please contact our office if you have questions or we can be of assistance. Shiela Joyner Director, Oklahoma Tuition Aid Grant Program Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education PO Box 108850 Oklahoma City, OK 73101-8850 Internet: sjoyner at otag.org Voice: 405.225.9378 or Toll Free 877.662.6231 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.onenet.net/pipermail/oasfaa/attachments/20091106/01fb39c1/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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"Income earned from work and the IRS 1040 form The FAFSA instructs the applicant to sum lines 7, 12, and 18 of the 1040 form and box 14 [code A] of Schedule K-1 (Form 1065) as an option for determining the income earned from work. But when the values of lines 12 or 18 or box 14 are negative, this will reduce the total and can wrongly affect the Social Security al-lowance. If values from lines 12 or 18 or box 14 are negative, treat them as zero when determining the income earned" So, now I think we need to go back to treating them as zeroes except that the FAFSA simply says to total lines 7, 12, 18 and Box 14A, etc. and doesn't instruct to treat negatives as zeroes so I'm sure most will subtract them because that's how you logically total a negative. Right? So, what do you do? I can take it if everyone tells me we're doing it incorrectly. :-) I would rather hear it from you all than from a program reviewer. Jonna From pmcconahay at ou.edu Mon Nov 9 17:30:59 2009 From: pmcconahay at ou.edu (Mc Conahay, Pamela K.) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:30:59 +0000 Subject: [Oasfaa] Verification Question In-Reply-To: <4AF84704.80C9.009B.0@okbu.edu> References: <4AF84704.80C9.009B.0@okbu.edu> Message-ID: <7765A2CFAD69AB4EBF0BE2E39EE5247C037A4E@it-monad.sooner.net.ou.edu> Jonna, Yes, you should go back to treating business/farm losses as zeroes when calculating income earned from work. If I was the trainer at that workshop, I screwed up. I think the key thing here is for people to understand how the 'income earned from work' is used in the EFC calculation. It does two things---allows the formula to accurately calculate a FICA allowance, and also drives the employment allowance. If you treat subtract the negative amounts on lines 12 or 18 from the positive total of wages earned from line 7, you won't be giving the parent/student an accurate FICA allowance in the EFC calculation. If you work at the mall and make $25,000 a year, you pay FICA on that $25,000.....even if you have a business loss of $10,000 on line 12. You don't pay any FICA on that business loss, so it should be treated as zero when totaling up the income earned from work; the correct income earned from work is $25,000. The accurate FICA allowance is $1912 (25,000 x 7.65%). If you subtract the $10,000 loss from the $25,000 wages and put $15,000 as income earned from work, the FICA allowance is only $1147, and the person has $765 more in available income than is really true, incorrectly inflating their EFC. The same logic holds true for the employment allowance (which is supposed to reflect the 'cost of working' like gas, clothes, lunch, etc.). In order to earn $25,000 at the mall, the correct employment allowance should be based on the $25,000. It didn't cost you any less to get to work and earn that $25,000 just because your side business went in the hole. Pam McConahay Associate Director, University of Oklahoma Financial Aid Services pmcconahay at ou.edu This message, and attachments if any, from the University of Oklahoma may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this information, you are prohibited from reading, disclosing, reproducing, distributing, disseminating, or otherwise using this information. If you received this transmission in error, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately. -----Original Message----- From: oasfaa-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:oasfaa-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of Jonna Raney Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:45 PM To: oasfaa at onenet.net Subject: [Oasfaa] Verification Question Years ago, we treated amount on line 12 or 18 on the 1040 as zeroes. Then, we went to a training a few years ago and they specifically said to subtract negative amounts when calculating income from work. So, we started subtracting the negative amounts. However, a colleague at another school emailed today and had found the following in the regs... "Income earned from work and the IRS 1040 form The FAFSA instructs the applicant to sum lines 7, 12, and 18 of the 1040 form and box 14 [code A] of Schedule K-1 (Form 1065) as an option for determining the income earned from work. But when the values of lines 12 or 18 or box 14 are negative, this will reduce the total and can wrongly affect the Social Security al-lowance. If values from lines 12 or 18 or box 14 are negative, treat them as zero when determining the income earned" So, now I think we need to go back to treating them as zeroes except that the FAFSA simply says to total lines 7, 12, 18 and Box 14A, etc. and doesn't instruct to treat negatives as zeroes so I'm sure most will subtract them because that's how you logically total a negative. Right? So, what do you do? I can take it if everyone tells me we're doing it incorrectly. :-) I would rather hear it from you all than from a program reviewer. Jonna From jeffersk at redlandscc.edu Tue Nov 10 11:41:27 2009 From: jeffersk at redlandscc.edu (Karen Jeffers) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:41:27 -0600 Subject: [Oasfaa] Another Verification Question Message-ID: We have a student that has informed us that she is expecting a baby in February 2010 and would like us to "re-evaluate" her FAFSA. She has been a student of ours for several semesters and was not selected for verification for 2009-10. She was packaged at the beginning of the summer (probably before she knew she was pregnant) and has subsequently received her fall disbursement of FSA funds. Are we required to update her household size to include the unborn child? She is independent by age and has only reported 1 in the household. What I found in the Handbook says, "Unlike dependency status, household size or number in college cannot be updated unless the student is selected for verification. If he is selected, these items must be updated to be correct at the time of verification unless they changed due to a change in the student's marital status, in which case updating is not permitted." Does this mean that we have to select the student for verification and proceed with the update? Or, since she wasn't originally selected for verification, has already been packaged, and received a FSA disbursement, is making the update optional? Thanks! Karen Karen Jeffers Director of Financial Aid Redlands Community College 1300 S. Country Club Road El Reno, OK 73036-5304 Office: 405-422-1442 Fax: 405-422-1463 "Redlands Community College provides a learner-centered environment committed to academic excellence strengthened through service and civic engagement." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.onenet.net/pipermail/oasfaa/attachments/20091110/587b678a/attachment.html From pmcconahay at ou.edu Tue Nov 10 12:27:52 2009 From: pmcconahay at ou.edu (Mc Conahay, Pamela K.) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:27:52 +0000 Subject: [Oasfaa] Another Verification Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7765A2CFAD69AB4EBF0BE2E39EE5247C038058@it-monad.sooner.net.ou.edu> To update her household size, you have to select her for verification. Whether you choose to select her for verification is optional. Pam McConahay Associate Director, University of Oklahoma Financial Aid Services pmcconahay at ou.edu This message, and attachments if any, from the University of Oklahoma may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this information, you are prohibited from reading, disclosing, reproducing, distributing, disseminating, or otherwise using this information. If you received this transmission in error, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately. From: oasfaa-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:oasfaa-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of Karen Jeffers Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 11:41 AM To: 'oasfaa at onenet.net' Subject: [Oasfaa] Another Verification Question We have a student that has informed us that she is expecting a baby in February 2010 and would like us to "re-evaluate" her FAFSA. She has been a student of ours for several semesters and was not selected for verification for 2009-10. She was packaged at the beginning of the summer (probably before she knew she was pregnant) and has subsequently received her fall disbursement of FSA funds. Are we required to update her household size to include the unborn child? She is independent by age and has only reported 1 in the household. What I found in the Handbook says, "Unlike dependency status, household size or number in college cannot be updated unless the student is selected for verification. If he is selected, these items must be updated to be correct at the time of verification unless they changed due to a change in the student's marital status, in which case updating is not permitted." Does this mean that we have to select the student for verification and proceed with the update? Or, since she wasn't originally selected for verification, has already been packaged, and received a FSA disbursement, is making the update optional? Thanks! Karen Karen Jeffers Director of Financial Aid Redlands Community College 1300 S. 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URL: http://lists.onenet.net/pipermail/oasfaa/attachments/20091110/e39883a1/attachment.html From lcoponiti at usao.edu Wed Nov 11 08:38:24 2009 From: lcoponiti at usao.edu (Laura Coponiti) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:38:24 -0600 Subject: [Oasfaa] FW: [swasfaaL] SWASFAA Annual Conference Message-ID: <01f301ca62dc$9ff1c6b0$dfd55410$@edu> -----Original Message----- From: swasfaal-bounces at swasfaa.org [mailto:swasfaal-bounces at swasfaa.org] On Behalf Of swasfaal at swasfaa.org Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:55 PM To: swasfaal at swasfaa.org Subject: [swasfaaL] SWASFAA Annual Conference Submitted: November 5, 2009 -------------------------------------------------- From: Mary Sue Rix msrix at centenary.edu Subject: SWASFAA Annual Conference Message: We hope you are making plans to attend the SWASFAA Conference, Boot Camp, and Mid-Level Training in Albuquerque, New Mexico the week of December 7-11. Registration for all three activities remains open until November 23 without a late fee penalty and after that with a $50.00 added charge. The hotel room block has been extended and remains open until November 16. Please go to the SWASFAA website, www.swasfaa.org, to view the tentative agenda for all the activities and to register for any or all of the events. The conference will provide updates from Jeff Baker, Kevin Campbell, and Barbara Davis, all from the Department of Education; timely information concerning veterans benefits, FERPA, and IRS resources; a NASFAA update from Joan Crissman; and other topics related to our daily tasks at the office. We hope to see you soon in Albuquerque for vital training and networking as you join us in 'Rising Above...the Journey to Greatness'. ------------------------------------------- REPLY: To reply to the person sending this message, use the email address in the 'From' section of message above. Messages replied back to this list will be discarded. POST/MANAGE SUBSCRIPTION: To post a message to this list go to http://www.swasfaa.org. Select 'Listserv' in the 'Member Services' section and follow the instructions for posting or managing your subscription. You will be asked for your SWASFAA username and password. QUESTIONS: Contact support at swasfaa.org ------------------------------------------- From Jonna.Raney at okbu.edu Wed Nov 11 11:00:49 2009 From: Jonna.Raney at okbu.edu (Jonna Raney) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:00:49 -0600 Subject: [Oasfaa] Earned Income Responses Message-ID: <4AFA9961.80C9.009B.0@okbu.edu> I had several that asked me to send responses to them, so I will summarize. Most said they subtract them as we were doing. Two said they treat negatives as zeroes. As Pam McConahy pointed out, it actually hurts the student if you subtract the amount because they lose that amount in the FICA allowance deduction which lowers the EFC. After reviewing the regs, I think it's pretty clear that we are to treat them as zeroes, so that's what we will do from now on. However, the FAFSA instructions are not clear to the student so the only ones in this category that will be correct are those that are selected for verification and are corrected by the schools. I plan to submit a comment to ED suggesting clarification on the FAFSA instructions for the income from work questions. Thanks for all the responses. I feel better that we weren't the only ones apparently doing it incorrectly. :-) Jonna From billie.stewart at swcu.edu Wed Nov 11 11:07:53 2009 From: billie.stewart at swcu.edu (Billie Stewart) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:07:53 -0600 Subject: [Oasfaa] Question Message-ID: Ok I am new at this Director thing and I really need some help. My first question is when a student gets put on Financial Aid Suspension at our school are they able to go some where else and receive Financial Aid. Second question, our school is fixing to start doing a summer semester. Has anyone gone through that already and if so can you give me some helpful hints for things that I need to watch for and set up. Any info at this point will be helpful. Like I said I am new at this. Thank you all, -- Mrs.Billie Stewart Financial Aid Director Southwestern Christian University (405) 789-7661 X 3431 billie.stewart at swcu.edu www.swcu.edu/financialinformation To know the will of God is the greatest knowledge, to find the will of God is the greatest discovery, and to do the will of God is the greatest achievement. -- Author Unknown -- Note: This communication and attachments are intended solely for the use of the addressee hereof. In addition, this information and attachments may contain information that is confidential, privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this information, you are prohibited from reading, disclosing, reproducing, distributing, disseminating, or otherwise using this information. If you have received this message in error, please promptly notify the sender and immediately delete this communication from your system. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.onenet.net/pipermail/oasfaa/attachments/20091111/9218d11e/attachment.html From billie.stewart at swcu.edu Wed Nov 11 11:10:31 2009 From: billie.stewart at swcu.edu (Billie Stewart) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:10:31 -0600 Subject: [Oasfaa] Verification Question In-Reply-To: <7765A2CFAD69AB4EBF0BE2E39EE5247C037A4E@it-monad.sooner.net.ou.edu> References: <4AF84704.80C9.009B.0@okbu.edu> <7765A2CFAD69AB4EBF0BE2E39EE5247C037A4E@it-monad.sooner.net.ou.edu> Message-ID: Is there anything that needs to be done differently for those students that have a negative AGI. Billie Stewart Southwestern Christian University On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Mc Conahay, Pamela K. wrote: > Jonna, > > Yes, you should go back to treating business/farm losses as zeroes when > calculating income earned from work. If I was the trainer at that workshop, > I screwed up. > > I think the key thing here is for people to understand how the 'income > earned from work' is used in the EFC calculation. It does two > things---allows the formula to accurately calculate a FICA allowance, and > also drives the employment allowance. > > If you treat subtract the negative amounts on lines 12 or 18 from the > positive total of wages earned from line 7, you won't be giving the > parent/student an accurate FICA allowance in the EFC calculation. > > If you work at the mall and make $25,000 a year, you pay FICA on that > $25,000.....even if you have a business loss of $10,000 on line 12. You > don't pay any FICA on that business loss, so it should be treated as zero > when totaling up the income earned from work; the correct income earned > from work is $25,000. > > The accurate FICA allowance is $1912 (25,000 x 7.65%). If you subtract the > $10,000 loss from the $25,000 wages and put $15,000 as income earned from > work, the FICA allowance is only $1147, and the person has $765 more in > available income than is really true, incorrectly inflating their EFC. > > The same logic holds true for the employment allowance (which is supposed > to reflect the 'cost of working' like gas, clothes, lunch, etc.). In order > to earn $25,000 at the mall, the correct employment allowance should be > based on the $25,000. It didn't cost you any less to get to work and earn > that $25,000 just because your side business went in the hole. > > Pam McConahay > Associate Director, University of Oklahoma Financial Aid Services > pmcconahay at ou.edu > This message, and attachments if any, from the University of Oklahoma may > contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended > recipient of this information, you are prohibited from reading, disclosing, > reproducing, distributing, disseminating, or otherwise using this > information. If you received this transmission in error, please notify the > sender and delete this message immediately. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: oasfaa-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto: > oasfaa-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of Jonna Raney > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:45 PM > To: oasfaa at onenet.net > Subject: [Oasfaa] Verification Question > > Years ago, we treated amount on line 12 or 18 on the 1040 as zeroes. Then, > we went to a training a few years ago and they specifically said to subtract > negative amounts when calculating income from work. So, we started > subtracting the negative amounts. However, a colleague at another school > emailed today and had found the following in the regs... > > "Income earned from work and the IRS 1040 form > The FAFSA instructs the applicant to sum lines 7, 12, and 18 of the 1040 > form and box 14 [code A] of Schedule K-1 (Form 1065) as an option for > determining the income earned from work. But when the values of lines 12 > or 18 or box 14 are negative, this will reduce the total and can wrongly > affect the Social Security al-lowance. If values from lines 12 or 18 or > box 14 are negative, treat them as zero when determining the income earned" > > So, now I think we need to go back to treating them as zeroes except that > the FAFSA simply says to total lines 7, 12, 18 and Box 14A, etc. and doesn't > instruct to treat negatives as zeroes so I'm sure most will subtract them > because that's how you logically total a negative. Right? > > So, what do you do? I can take it if everyone tells me we're doing it > incorrectly. :-) I would rather hear it from you all than from a program > reviewer. > > Jonna > > > -- Mrs.Billie Stewart Financial Aid Director Southwestern Christian University (405) 789-7661 X 3431 billie.stewart at swcu.edu www.swcu.edu/financialinformation To know the will of God is the greatest knowledge, to find the will of God is the greatest discovery, and to do the will of God is the greatest achievement. -- Author Unknown -- Note: This communication and attachments are intended solely for the use of the addressee hereof. In addition, this information and attachments may contain information that is confidential, privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this information, you are prohibited from reading, disclosing, reproducing, distributing, disseminating, or otherwise using this information. If you have received this message in error, please promptly notify the sender and immediately delete this communication from your system. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.onenet.net/pipermail/oasfaa/attachments/20091111/9fd8e158/attachment.html From lcoponiti at usao.edu Wed Nov 11 11:29:52 2009 From: lcoponiti at usao.edu (Laura Coponiti) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:29:52 -0600 Subject: [Oasfaa] Earned Income Responses In-Reply-To: <4AFA9961.80C9.009B.0@okbu.edu> References: <4AFA9961.80C9.009B.0@okbu.edu> Message-ID: <022501ca62f4$93b586d0$bb209470$@edu> The draft of the 10-11 FAFSA tells the student and parent "if negative, enter a zero here" so I think they are trying to make it clearer for the upcoming year. Laura Coponiti -----Original Message----- From: oasfaa-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:oasfaa-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of Jonna Raney Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:01 AM To: oasfaa at onenet.net Subject: [Oasfaa] Earned Income Responses I had several that asked me to send responses to them, so I will summarize. Most said they subtract them as we were doing. Two said they treat negatives as zeroes. As Pam McConahy pointed out, it actually hurts the student if you subtract the amount because they lose that amount in the FICA allowance deduction which lowers the EFC. After reviewing the regs, I think it's pretty clear that we are to treat them as zeroes, so that's what we will do from now on. However, the FAFSA instructions are not clear to the student so the only ones in this category that will be correct are those that are selected for verification and are corrected by the schools. I plan to submit a comment to ED suggesting clarification on the FAFSA instructions for the income from work questions. Thanks for all the responses. I feel better that we weren't the only ones apparently doing it incorrectly. :-) Jonna From pmcconahay at ou.edu Wed Nov 11 11:55:26 2009 From: pmcconahay at ou.edu (Mc Conahay, Pamela K.) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:55:26 +0000 Subject: [Oasfaa] Verification Question In-Reply-To: References: <4AF84704.80C9.009B.0@okbu.edu> <7765A2CFAD69AB4EBF0BE2E39EE5247C037A4E@it-monad.sooner.net.ou.edu> Message-ID: <7765A2CFAD69AB4EBF0BE2E39EE5247C038453@it-monad.sooner.net.ou.edu> Billie, No, nothing needs to be done differently for students with a negative AGI. Pam McConahay Associate Director, University of Oklahoma Financial Aid Services pmcconahay at ou.edu This message, and attachments if any, from the University of Oklahoma may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this information, you are prohibited from reading, disclosing, reproducing, distributing, disseminating, or otherwise using this information. If you received this transmission in error, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately. From: Billie Stewart [mailto:billie.stewart at swcu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:11 AM To: Mc Conahay, Pamela K. Cc: Jonna Raney; oasfaa at onenet.net Subject: Re: [Oasfaa] Verification Question Is there anything that needs to be done differently for those students that have a negative AGI. Billie Stewart Southwestern Christian University On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Mc Conahay, Pamela K. > wrote: Jonna, Yes, you should go back to treating business/farm losses as zeroes when calculating income earned from work. If I was the trainer at that workshop, I screwed up. I think the key thing here is for people to understand how the 'income earned from work' is used in the EFC calculation. It does two things---allows the formula to accurately calculate a FICA allowance, and also drives the employment allowance. If you treat subtract the negative amounts on lines 12 or 18 from the positive total of wages earned from line 7, you won't be giving the parent/student an accurate FICA allowance in the EFC calculation. If you work at the mall and make $25,000 a year, you pay FICA on that $25,000.....even if you have a business loss of $10,000 on line 12. You don't pay any FICA on that business loss, so it should be treated as zero when totaling up the income earned from work; the correct income earned from work is $25,000. The accurate FICA allowance is $1912 (25,000 x 7.65%). If you subtract the $10,000 loss from the $25,000 wages and put $15,000 as income earned from work, the FICA allowance is only $1147, and the person has $765 more in available income than is really true, incorrectly inflating their EFC. The same logic holds true for the employment allowance (which is supposed to reflect the 'cost of working' like gas, clothes, lunch, etc.). In order to earn $25,000 at the mall, the correct employment allowance should be based on the $25,000. It didn't cost you any less to get to work and earn that $25,000 just because your side business went in the hole. Pam McConahay Associate Director, University of Oklahoma Financial Aid Services pmcconahay at ou.edu This message, and attachments if any, from the University of Oklahoma may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this information, you are prohibited from reading, disclosing, reproducing, distributing, disseminating, or otherwise using this information. If you received this transmission in error, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately. -----Original Message----- From: oasfaa-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:oasfaa-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of Jonna Raney Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:45 PM To: oasfaa at onenet.net Subject: [Oasfaa] Verification Question Years ago, we treated amount on line 12 or 18 on the 1040 as zeroes. Then, we went to a training a few years ago and they specifically said to subtract negative amounts when calculating income from work. So, we started subtracting the negative amounts. However, a colleague at another school emailed today and had found the following in the regs... "Income earned from work and the IRS 1040 form The FAFSA instructs the applicant to sum lines 7, 12, and 18 of the 1040 form and box 14 [code A] of Schedule K-1 (Form 1065) as an option for determining the income earned from work. But when the values of lines 12 or 18 or box 14 are negative, this will reduce the total and can wrongly affect the Social Security al-lowance. If values from lines 12 or 18 or box 14 are negative, treat them as zero when determining the income earned" So, now I think we need to go back to treating them as zeroes except that the FAFSA simply says to total lines 7, 12, 18 and Box 14A, etc. and doesn't instruct to treat negatives as zeroes so I'm sure most will subtract them because that's how you logically total a negative. Right? So, what do you do? I can take it if everyone tells me we're doing it incorrectly. :-) I would rather hear it from you all than from a program reviewer. Jonna -- Mrs.Billie Stewart Financial Aid Director Southwestern Christian University (405) 789-7661 X 3431 billie.stewart at swcu.edu www.swcu.edu/financialinformation To know the will of God is the greatest knowledge, to find the will of God is the greatest discovery, and to do the will of God is the greatest achievement. -- Author Unknown -- Note: This communication and attachments are intended solely for the use of the addressee hereof. In addition, this information and attachments may contain information that is confidential, privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this information, you are prohibited from reading, disclosing, reproducing, distributing, disseminating, or otherwise using this information. If you have received this message in error, please promptly notify the sender and immediately delete this communication from your system. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.onenet.net/pipermail/oasfaa/attachments/20091111/2f457202/attachment.html From pmcconahay at ou.edu Wed Nov 11 12:07:39 2009 From: pmcconahay at ou.edu (Mc Conahay, Pamela K.) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:07:39 +0000 Subject: [Oasfaa] Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7765A2CFAD69AB4EBF0BE2E39EE5247C038498@it-monad.sooner.net.ou.edu> Billie, Yes, a student who is put on Financial Aid suspension at one school for failing to maintain satisfactory academic progress COULD get financial aid at another school. That's because the SAP policies can differ. An example would be a student who is a graduate student at OU who is required to maintain a 3.00 GPA. If he fails to keep up his GPA, he could be put on financial aid suspension at OU. He could then go to another school to try to earn a 2nd bachelor's degree. Because the GPA requirement for an undergraduate degree is a minimum of 2.00, not 3.00, it's possible he'd be eligible at the other school. Most of us have summer semesters and they can be a pain. I'll send you some info privately. Pam McConahay Associate Director, University of Oklahoma Financial Aid Services pmcconahay at ou.edu This message, and attachments if any, from the University of Oklahoma may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this information, you are prohibited from reading, disclosing, reproducing, distributing, disseminating, or otherwise using this information. If you received this transmission in error, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately. From: oasfaa-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:oasfaa-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of Billie Stewart Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:08 AM To: Oasfaa List Subject: [Oasfaa] Question Ok I am new at this Director thing and I really need some help. My first question is when a student gets put on Financial Aid Suspension at our school are they able to go some where else and receive Financial Aid. Second question, our school is fixing to start doing a summer semester. Has anyone gone through that already and if so can you give me some helpful hints for things that I need to watch for and set up. Any info at this point will be helpful. Like I said I am new at this. Thank you all, -- Mrs.Billie Stewart Financial Aid Director Southwestern Christian University (405) 789-7661 X 3431 billie.stewart at swcu.edu www.swcu.edu/financialinformation To know the will of God is the greatest knowledge, to find the will of God is the greatest discovery, and to do the will of God is the greatest achievement. -- Author Unknown -- Note: This communication and attachments are intended solely for the use of the addressee hereof. In addition, this information and attachments may contain information that is confidential, privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this information, you are prohibited from reading, disclosing, reproducing, distributing, disseminating, or otherwise using this information. If you have received this message in error, please promptly notify the sender and immediately delete this communication from your system. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.onenet.net/pipermail/oasfaa/attachments/20091111/34f575f1/attachment.html From nmoats at usao.edu Wed Nov 11 12:21:56 2009 From: nmoats at usao.edu (Nancy Moats) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:21:56 -0600 Subject: [Oasfaa] Happy Veteran's Day! Message-ID: <009301ca62fb$d9f006a0$8dd013e0$@edu> Happy Veteran's Day to all the OASFAA members who served in the military! Thank you for your service and sacrifices on our behalf! Nancy Moats President -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.onenet.net/pipermail/oasfaa/attachments/20091111/49f47aec/attachment.html From AHammontree at francistuttle.edu Tue Nov 17 08:09:20 2009 From: AHammontree at francistuttle.edu (Andrew Hammontree) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:09:20 -0600 Subject: [Oasfaa] Fwd: [swasfaaL] SWASFAA Annual Conference References: <20091117013327.18050.qmail@jera.pair.com> Message-ID: <4B025A2F.0E81.0020.0@francistuttle.edu> >>> On 11/16/2009 at 7:33 PM, in message <20091117013327.18050.qmail at jera.pair.com>, wrote: Submitted: November 16, 2009 -------------------------------------------------- From: Mary Sue Rix msrix at centenary.edu Subject: SWASFAA Annual Conference Message: Registration for the SWASFAA Annual Conference in Albuquerque, NM, remains open thru Monday, November 23, without a late fee penalty. In addition, the room block with the Hyatt will be open for the same time frame. Some of you experienced a block on the hotel site last week. Due to this inconvenience, the hotel has graciously extended the date for SWASFAA members to book rooms thru November 23. We hope that many of you will join us in Albuquerque. You will have the opportunity to hear from Department of Education personnel in small breakout sessions that will provide time for asking questions face-to-face. In addition, there will be up-to-date presentations on many of the new HEOA requirements. Networking with your colleagues and having presenters in attendance with the latest news makes this conference an invaluable experience. The best place to be December 9-11 is the 'Hot Air Balloon Capital of the World!' See you soon, Mary Sue Rix SWASFAA Conference Chair ------------------------------------------- REPLY: To reply to the person sending this message, use the email address in the 'From' section of message above. Messages replied back to this list will be discarded. 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This year, we are especially pleased to have two presenters from the Department of Education. Kevin Campbell will be presenting on Year Round Pell and Barbara Davis will present a session designed to answer your questions about transitioning from FFELP to Direct Lending. This workshop is a wonderful opportunity to interact with knowledgeable individuals in a small, discussion oriented setting. We encourage our presenters not to simply lecture to our participants but to invite dialogue and questions. The workshop will be held at the Hyatt Regency Hotel in Albuquerque, NM. It will begin at noon on Tuesday, December 8 and conclude at noon on Wednesday, December 9. The cost for the workshop is $100 and includes lunch on Tuesday, breakfast on Wednesday, and all session materials. Participants are also invited to the SWASFAA President?s Reception on Tuesday evening. The annual SWASFAA conference begins Wednesday afternoon, shortly after the Mid-Level Workshop concludes. If you are looking for a way to improve your knowledge base about Financial Aid in general or about a specific topic at a very economical cost I hope you?ll consider attending the 2009 Mid-Level Workshop. A full agenda and registration information is available at www.swasfaa.org ( http://www.swasfaa.org/ ). If you have questions about the workshop please feel free to contact Taina Savoit, SWASFAA President at tsavoit at mcneese.eduor Scott DeBoard, Chair of the SWASFAA Continuing Education Committee at sdeboard at uco.edu. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This can be accomplished by following these steps: a. Go to http://fsaconferences.ed.gov/index.html b. Select which sessions you wish to attend c. Print the desired presentations d. Bring the desired presentations to the FSA Conference Sincerely, United States Department of Education Region VI Training Team -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.onenet.net/pipermail/oasfaa/attachments/20091119/844f8606/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 1163 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.onenet.net/pipermail/oasfaa/attachments/20091119/844f8606/attachment.gif From sbourbeau at osrhe.edu Fri Nov 20 15:32:01 2009 From: sbourbeau at osrhe.edu (Bourbeau, Sharon) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:32:01 -0600 Subject: [Oasfaa] Campus E-Clips November 2009 edition Now Available!!!!!! Message-ID: The November 18, 2009 edition of Campus E-Clips online newsletter produced by the Communicators Council, an advisory council to the Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education, is now available at http://www.okhighered.org/newsletter/ . November 18, 2009 highlights: * Chancellor Speaks at WOSC Higher Learning Center Dedication * For the Love of Soccer and the Will to Live * Rose State College Expands Free Tuition Program * Regional Economic Summit at NSU Concludes With Summary of Outcomes * Cameron University Dedicates New Business Building * Nearly 100 Tour TCC's Center for Creativity During Open House * State Regents Seek Increase in Funding * And more...visit www.okhighered.org/newsletter . Sharon Bourbeau Communications Coordinator II Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education 655 Research Parkway, Suite 200 Oklahoma City, OK 73104-3603 405-225-9182 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.onenet.net/pipermail/oasfaa/attachments/20091124/ac8dd725/attachment.html From chuck.bledson at cox.net Tue Nov 24 13:50:52 2009 From: chuck.bledson at cox.net (Chuck & Mary Lou Bledsoe) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:50:52 -0600 Subject: [Oasfaa] Position Opening - Financial Aid Counselor - OSU Institute of Technology, Okmulgee, OK Message-ID: <000301ca6d3f$6dfbb4a0$49f31de0$@bledson@cox.net> OSU Institute of Technology in Okmulgee, OK has an opening for a Financial Aid Counselor in Student Financial Services (Position #630121). The position will be required to provide counseling, information and customer service to students, parents, faculty, staff and administration regarding all types of student financial aid. Advises and assists students and parents with the financial aid application process. Packages financial aid awards within the guidelines of university policies and federal and state regulations. Assists with student flow within the office. For specific qualifications, visit our website at https://jobs.okstate.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/frameset/Frameset.jsp?time=12 59091805332. Mary Lou Bledsoe Director, Student Financial Services -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.onenet.net/pipermail/oasfaa/attachments/20091124/50ea7f7a/attachment.html From Mendy-Schmerer at ouhsc.edu Wed Nov 25 11:02:32 2009 From: Mendy-Schmerer at ouhsc.edu (Schmerer, Mendy M. (HSC)) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:02:32 -0600 Subject: [Oasfaa] Membership Dues In-Reply-To: <001f01ca6d2b$8ab37b00$a01a7100$@edu> References: <001f01ca6d2b$8ab37b00$a01a7100$@edu> Message-ID: All, as OASFAA Treasurer this year, I have been charged with the responsibility to coordinate our new membership policy. I have sent emails out to FA directors and lender representatives with the attached information, but my list of contacts may very well be incomplete. If you did not receive an email from me but are interested in OASFAA membership, please use the attached information to proceed with the process. For points of clarification, unfortunately, OASFAA cannot accept credit card payments for membership payments. A check is the only form of payment that the organization can accept. In requesting checks for this, I have had several schools request W9s, as their business offices need that information. If you need a W9, just email or call me and I will get one to you. Below is the text of my original email. Greetings! If you were at the OASFAA Conference in April and attended the Business Meeting on Friday morning, hopefully you recall that the members approved a new membership policy for OASFAA beginning July 1, 2009 for the 2009-2010 year. If you were not at the meeting, or perhaps have not yet become involved in the activities sponsored by the Oklahoma Association of Student Financial Aid Administrators, now is a perfect time to learn about OASFAA and all that we do as an association. If you are new to the idea of OASFAA, you can check out our website at http://www.oasfaaok.com/index.php. If you are not signed up for the OASFAA electronic mailing list, you can find subscription instructions at http://www.oasfaaok.com/mailingList.php. As you will see from the attached letter, OASFAA has changed its membership policies, effective for July 1. As OASFAA's Treasurer for the 2009-2010 year, I am now in the process of gathering membership information and dues payment information. Once you have read through the letter and, if necessary, checked out the website, if you still have questions, please feel free to contact me. Nancy Moats, Financial Aid Director at the University of Science and Arts of Oklahoma, is OASFAA's President for the 2009-2010 year. Nancy can be reached at nmoats at usao.edu, so if you have questions that either of us can answer for you, we would both be happy to talk to you. If you would like to email the completed application to me and mail the payment separately, that will be fine, or you can send a paper version of the application through the mail, with the check, whichever is more convenient for you. Thank you, and have a wonderful Thanksgiving! Mendy Schmerer Office of Student Financial Aid Financial Aid Coordinator University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center 1106 N. Stonewall, Rm 301 Oklahoma City, OK 73117 (405) 271-2118, x 48817 (p) (405) 271-5446 (f) Mendy-Schmerer at ouhsc.edu http://www.ouhsc.edu/sfs/ Please note that I have returned from maternity leave, but on a part-time basis. I will return to work full-time December 1st. Thank you for your patience. From: oasfaa-bounces at lists.onenet.net [mailto:oasfaa-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of Nancy Moats Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:28 AM To: oasfaa at onenet.net; 'Andrew Hammontree' Subject: [Oasfaa] Membership Dues Remember to pay your $100 institutional membership dues as soon as possible. You will identify one person as the voting delegate for your institution. The ballots for electing officers for 2010-2011 will go out to designated voting members in February or March so that the election results can be announced at the Spring Conference in April. If you are interested in running for an office or know someone who is, please contact Andrew Hammontree, ahammontree at francistuttle.edu or me. To run for office, your school must be an OASFAA member. Everyone have a safe and Happy Thanksgiving! Nancy Moats OASFAA President -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Director of Student Financial Services, OSU Institute of Technology Message-ID: <001801ca6df6$53e17f70$fba47e50$@bledson@cox.net> OSU Institute of Technology located in Okmulgee, OK has an opening for an Assistant Director of Student Financial Services (Position #530305). This position will assist the Director of Student Financial Services with the administration of all student financial aid programs. Provides counseling, information, and customer service to students, parents, faculty, staff and administration regarding all types of student financial aid. Conducts on-campus and off-campus workshops and financial aid presentations to high schools, businesses, career day programs, departments and divisions. For additional information or to apply, please visit the website at https://jobs.okstate.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/frameset/Frameset.jsp?time=12 59170483850. 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