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<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Good Morning!</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">I spoke with Kevin Campbell from the Dept of Ed Tuesday afternoon about this and several other scenarios.</FONT></SPAN>
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<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">First, we talked about students who are not "degree seeking" and he was adamant that a student who is not degree seeking at your school can NOT receive title IV aid at your school. I then used the example of a student who took classes with us while in high school as a concurrently enrolled student and has earned several hours with us ( I used the example of 18 hours) by the time they graduate from high school. They go off to a 4 year institution for the fall/spring semesters and then return to us for summer school. That student could very easily transfer the hours earned from the 4 year back to us and eventually earn an associates degree. He said if that student declares they are degree seeking, that changes the picture and they are eligible. The main factor is whether they are degree seeking at your institution. A student can't just state they're degree seeking when they have no intention of seeking a degree at your institution. </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">I also brought up consortium agreements and referenced the Financial Aid Handbook Vol.2 Chapter 7. on page 2-96 where the handbook states:</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">"Usually, the home school is responsible for disbursing funds, but if the student is enrolled for a full term or academic year at the host school, it may be easier for the host school to monitor the student's eligibility and make payments."</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">I have never done a consortium agreement this way and was concerned about the responsibilities of the host and home institutions. He said as long as you follow the guidelines in the handbook that it is possible for the host school to be the school that disburses the aid. This would all be spelled out in the consortium agreement. The SAP would normally be monitored by the home school but once again, this would all need to be covered in the consortium agreement. </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Mr. Campbell said where most schools get in trouble on consortium agreements is they don't do what they say they are going to do in the agreement. We talked about a group consortium between several schools and individual consortiums. He said some schools get confused with academic consortium agreements between schools and financial aid consortiums. They are not the same thing.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">We may try to do some agreements this way for the summer. Basically, I just want to give you a heads up to read any new consortium agreements you may get from WOSC. We may be listing you as the HOME school instead of the way we normally have done in the past. It is up to each school to decide if they want to sign the agreement and proceed this way. </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">I'm interested in hearing what your concerns are. I don't have a new agreement drafted up yet, but I may contact some of you individually if we have a student this applies to who is seeking a degree at your institution.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">I'm sending a copy of this email to Mr. Campbell for any possible errors I have made. Please correct me. </FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Thanks for your input.</FONT></SPAN>
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<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Myrna Cross</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Western Oklahoma State College</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">2801 N. Main</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Altus, OK 73521</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">580-477-7712</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">580-477-7716 fax</FONT></SPAN>
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<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">-----Original Message-----</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">From: oasfaa-bounces@lists.onenet.net [</FONT></SPAN><A HREF="mailto:oasfaa-bounces@lists.onenet.net"><SPAN LANG="en-us"><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">mailto:oasfaa-bounces@lists.onenet.net</FONT></U></SPAN></A><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">] On Behalf Of Jonna Raney</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:56 PM</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">To: oasfaa@onenet.net</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Subject: [Oasfaa] Year Round Pell question</FONT></SPAN>
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<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">We have had a couple students tell us that they are "transferring" to another school for summer to get pell and then transferring the credits back to OBU in the fall and continue towards their degree. Apparently, they're being told they can do from the other school. Is that okay? Even though the student technically won't be truly seeking a degree at the summer school, can they get aid? </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Thanks in advance for any help,</FONT></SPAN>
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<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Jonna</FONT></SPAN>
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