From strombley at se.edu  Fri Jan 13 15:50:33 2023
From: strombley at se.edu (Susan Trombley)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2023 21:50:33 +0000
Subject: [Okgrants] Indirect cost on local & private grant
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Hello –

We are applying for a private grant. This is the first private grant I have been involved in the proposal. I do not see any restrictions on indirect cost, in the grant proposal guidelines. So I’d like to request indirect cost or something in the proposal budget. Our existing private and local grants do not have indirect cost in the budget. I do not see anything in the files stating if the grantor disallowed indirect cost. Additionally, there’s not a university policy on this. So I come to you all to see what you all do.

What is your university practice on charging indirect cost to local or private grants?

Respectfully -

Susan Trombley, MBA
Assistant Comptroller, Grants
Finance
Southeastern Oklahoma State University
425 W. University
Durant, OK 74701
P: 580.745.2884
E: strombley at se.edu
W: https://www.se.edu/financial-aid/research-and-sponsored-programs/
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From lori.gwyn at swosu.edu  Fri Jan 13 16:27:21 2023
From: lori.gwyn at swosu.edu (Gwyn, Lori)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2023 22:27:21 +0000
Subject: [Okgrants] [EXT]:  Indirect cost on local & private grant
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If it were me, I would call the funding agency. Some are fine with it, some say no, and some say you can put it in but the total grant budget will still not exceed a certain amount.

My two cents.

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Subject: [EXT]: [Okgrants] Indirect cost on local & private grant


Hello –



We are applying for a private grant. This is the first private grant I have been involved in the proposal. I do not see any restrictions on indirect cost, in the grant proposal guidelines. So I’d like to request indirect cost or something in the proposal budget. Our existing private and local grants do not have indirect cost in the budget. I do not see anything in the files stating if the grantor disallowed indirect cost. Additionally, there’s not a university policy on this. So I come to you all to see what you all do.



What is your university practice on charging indirect cost to local or private grants?



Respectfully -



Susan Trombley, MBA

Assistant Comptroller, Grants

Finance

Southeastern Oklahoma State University

425 W. University

Durant, OK 74701

P: 580.745.2884

E: strombley at se.edu

W: https://www.se.edu/financial-aid/research-and-sponsored-programs/

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From rgordon7 at uco.edu  Fri Jan 13 16:44:11 2023
From: rgordon7 at uco.edu (Gina Gordon)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2023 22:44:11 +0000
Subject: [Okgrants] [EXT]:  Indirect cost on local & private grant
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I echo Lori! We call the funder to see if it is ok, and if it is, we typically include the maximum allowable.
Have a great weekend!
Gina

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Subject: Re: [Okgrants] [EXT]: Indirect cost on local & private grant

If it were me, I would call the funding agency. Some are fine with it, some say no, and some say you can put it in but the total grant budget will still not exceed a certain amount.

My two cents.

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Subject: [EXT]: [Okgrants] Indirect cost on local & private grant


Hello -



We are applying for a private grant. This is the first private grant I have been involved in the proposal. I do not see any restrictions on indirect cost, in the grant proposal guidelines. So I'd like to request indirect cost or something in the proposal budget. Our existing private and local grants do not have indirect cost in the budget. I do not see anything in the files stating if the grantor disallowed indirect cost. Additionally, there's not a university policy on this. So I come to you all to see what you all do.



What is your university practice on charging indirect cost to local or private grants?



Respectfully -



Susan Trombley, MBA

Assistant Comptroller, Grants

Finance

Southeastern Oklahoma State University

425 W. University

Durant, OK 74701

P: 580.745.2884

E: strombley at se.edu<mailto:strombley at se.edu>

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From llyon at ecok.edu  Fri Jan 13 16:45:43 2023
From: llyon at ecok.edu (Lyon, Leah P.)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2023 22:45:43 +0000
Subject: [Okgrants] Indirect cost on local & private grant
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For us, it depends on what the funds will be used for and also on discussion with the private funder, as sometimes they will advise one way or another.  A lot of times we forego IDCs and sometimes we waive a portion (requesting less than normal), but rarely do we budget for/request our full amount from private sources.



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Hello –

We are applying for a private grant. This is the first private grant I have been involved in the proposal. I do not see any restrictions on indirect cost, in the grant proposal guidelines. So I’d like to request indirect cost or something in the proposal budget. Our existing private and local grants do not have indirect cost in the budget. I do not see anything in the files stating if the grantor disallowed indirect cost. Additionally, there’s not a university policy on this. So I come to you all to see what you all do.

What is your university practice on charging indirect cost to local or private grants?

Respectfully -

Susan Trombley, MBA
Assistant Comptroller, Grants
Finance
Southeastern Oklahoma State University
425 W. University
Durant, OK 74701
P: 580.745.2884
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From fostersu at nsuok.edu  Mon Jan 16 09:00:33 2023
From: fostersu at nsuok.edu (Susan Evans)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 09:00:33 -0600
Subject: [Okgrants] Indirect cost on local & private grant
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We apply....if the RFP does not specify it is not allowed...we still incur
overhead costs whether the program is private or not.
If allowed...charge your full rate for IDC.
Susan

*Susan Evans  B.S., CRA  *
*B.S. - Accounting/Business Administration/Mathematics*

*Certified Research Administrator Director - Grants & Contracts*
Northeastern State University
601 N. Grand Avenue
Tahlequah, OK  74464
Office:  918-444-2256
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On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 4:07 PM Susan Trombley <strombley at se.edu> wrote:

> Hello –
>
>
>
> We are applying for a private grant. This is the first private grant I
> have been involved in the proposal. I do not see any restrictions on
> indirect cost, in the grant proposal guidelines. So I’d like to request
> indirect cost or something in the proposal budget. Our existing private and
> local grants do not have indirect cost in the budget. I do not see anything
> in the files stating if the grantor disallowed indirect cost. Additionally,
> there’s not a university policy on this. So I come to you all to see what
> you all do.
>
>
>
> What is your university practice on charging indirect cost to local or
> private grants?
>
>
>
> Respectfully -
>
>
>
> Susan Trombley, MBA
>
> Assistant Comptroller, Grants
>
> Finance
>
> Southeastern Oklahoma State University
>
> 425 W. University
>
> Durant, OK 74701
>
> P: 580.745.2884
>
> E: strombley at se.edu
>
> W: https://www.se.edu/financial-aid/research-and-sponsored-programs/
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