[Oasfaa] Year Round Pell

[Susan Prater]

No kidding! A Hot Topic it will Be!

Susan Prater
Director
UCO Student Financial Services
405.974.2300

From: OASFAA [mailto:oasfaa-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of Pacheco, Caryn L.
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 10:24 AM
To: myrna cross <myrna.cross at wosc.edu>; oasfaa at lists.onenet.net
Subject: Re: [Oasfaa] Year Round Pell

Oh my!  We are going to listen closely at NASFAA next week and then take whatever action we need to in July.

I’ve copied below some email conversation on this topic from a closed group listserve that I am on as a FYI.


Caryn Pacheco | University of Oklahoma
Financial Aid Services | Director

Phone: 405-325-9627| 1000 Asp Ave, Buchanan Hall Room 216 | Norman, OK  73019|www.financialaid.ou.edu





From: cosuaa-members [mailto:cosuaa-members-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Feldman, Rachelle Anne
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 9:51 AM
To: Coalition of State University Aid Administrators <cosuaa-members at u.washington.edu<mailto:cosuaa-members at u.washington.edu>>
Cc: cosuaa-members <cosuaa-members-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu<mailto:cosuaa-members-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu>> (cosuaa-members-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu<mailto:cosuaa-members-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu>) <cosuaa-members-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu<mailto:cosuaa-members-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu>>
Subject: Re: [cosuaa-members] Year-Round Pell

It sure seems to me that the letter implies we should be giving students additional Pell in 2017 summer.

My team is worried about getting a group of students permanently off-cycle with the system for summer awards where we think they will have to be packaged manually. Like Ted I'm not sure how we could argue the students interest there (vs just a small difference in amount)
Is there some automated way to handle this in PeopleSoft?  Our old system had a special set of screens but I'm not finding them if they exist in PS.

On a related note, is anyone planning to give summer 2017 Pell to new students (admits for fall) who enroll at your campus half time this summer?

Thanks,
Rachelle

On Jun 21, 2017, at 7:44 AM, Malone, Theodore E <temalone at purdue.edu<mailto:temalone at purdue.edu>> wrote:
I think it would be hard to argue that paying zero when you can pay them hundreds or thousands of dollars would be in the student's best interest.

I think anyone who chooses not to could face a firestorm of bad press.



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From: "Wiggins, Nimmi" <nwiggin at uky.edu<mailto:nwiggin at uky.edu>>
Date: 6/21/17 8:05 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Coalition of State University Aid Administrators <cosuaa-members at u.washington.edu<mailto:cosuaa-members at u.washington.edu>>, "cosuaa-members <cosuaa-members-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu<mailto:cosuaa-members-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu>> (cosuaa-members-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu<mailto:cosuaa-members-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu>)" <cosuaa-members-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu<mailto:cosuaa-members-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu>>
Subject: Re: [cosuaa-members] Year-Round Pell

Alicia,

We have been reviewing and it appears under certain conditions there is a requirement to pay students this summer using the 2017-18 FAFSA information. But we are unclear on what the Department means by ‘in the best interest of the student’. That appears ambiguous to us. Can anyone help clarify?

Also since the regulation goes into effect July 1 we plan to wait till then to make the additional Pell awards for this summer.

Thanks,

Nimmi Wiggins
University of Kentucky

From: cosuaa-members [mailto:cosuaa-members-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Alicia Keaton
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 7:54 AM
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Subject: [cosuaa-members] Year-Round Pell

Good morning,

I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the Year-Round Pell notice that came out this week?

https://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/secretary-education-betsy-devos-delivers-promise-year-round-pell-and-increased-flexibility-students<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ed.gov_news_press-2Dreleases_secretary-2Deducation-2Dbetsy-2Ddevos-2Ddelivers-2Dpromise-2Dyear-2Dround-2Dpell-2Dand-2Dincreased-2Dflexibility-2Dstudents&d=DwMGaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=XzEFyeCMxK_R-ZN6HFG3GA&m=roj2ifIKWiMdHGeiCqZT9DvkvG4FAPJ0DZUj0i97x5E&s=IXFcnIwAIuSiF7_MmZrVAlO2G5vnItCHCTjoeHm3IQY&e=>

https://ifap.ed.gov/dpcletters/GEN1706.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ifap.ed.gov_dpcletters_GEN1706.html&d=DwMGaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=XzEFyeCMxK_R-ZN6HFG3GA&m=roj2ifIKWiMdHGeiCqZT9DvkvG4FAPJ0DZUj0i97x5E&s=A6oaOvA7zGikM_A3-0Spea7zoyEF7FomBKUaC4tYDoQ&e=>

One critical piece is listed below.

As noted, this provision is effective beginning with the 2017–2018 award year. Thus, an eligible student who is enrolled in the summer 2017 crossover payment period that the institution assigned to the waning 2016–2017 award year may not receive Pell Grant funds beyond 100 percent of the student’s Pell Grant Scheduled Award for the 2016–2017 award year. However, a student who has exhausted his or her Pell Grant eligibility for the 2016–2017 award year and who is enrolling in the summer of 2017 should receive a Pell Grant award for summer based on their 2017–2018 Pell eligibility because the student will have additional eligibility later in the 2017–2018 award year.


Alicia
Alicia Keaton
Director
Student Financial Assistance
Millican Hall, Room 120
Orlando, FL 32816
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From: OASFAA [mailto:oasfaa-bounces at lists.onenet.net] On Behalf Of myrna cross
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 2:20 PM
To: oasfaa at lists.onenet.net<mailto:oasfaa at lists.onenet.net>
Subject: [Oasfaa] Year Round Pell

So................how many of you counted up to see if you are eligible for retirement when you saw this electronic announcement?????  I have already given my word to stay two more years.............LOL
Our Summer term began May 30th.  It would have been nice to have had this a little earlier for students who have used all of their Pell and did not enroll for summer 17 because they couldn't afford it.  Also, students who have already been packaged and have loans disbursed etc could now be overawarded!!  I can think of all kinds of things we need to be looking at.
A webinar from the Dept of Ed would be nice right now.

Myrna Cross
Director, Financial Aid/VA
Western Oklahoma State College
2801 N. Main
Altus, OK  73521
580-477-7712
580-477-7716 fax
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